Manchester University to charge 9 grand a year.

[Stevies Bald Head!]

In september 2010 i went to leeds met university. Took a course in Events management which at the end of the 4 years would leave me with about 40k worth of debt.

About 3 weeks ago i left university. I couldn't physically bare the way of life at university. the course that i was doing was the biggest load of mickey mouse bullshit i had ever come across. Almost 90% i lived around and socialized with didn't care about their course and seemed to just be there for the whole Uni experience and social that goes with it.

Looking back i was guilty of maybe going to university more interested in the piss ups and the shagging, what a fool i was.

I also hate being skint, its the dirtiest, most lazy, bored lifestyle you can wish for. I had to leave and start grafting from the bottom and try and get some money in my back pocket.
Its not mentally healthy to have that much free time on your hands where you do nothing.

Most importantly this below...

I cant stress enough that if you plan to go to University do a course that is recognised by the world as something worth having, make sure you go to Uni wanting to further your education in that particular field. If not once the whole honeymoon period of freshers and stuff is over you will start to despise what you are putting yourself through.

 

[SWP's back]

If you want to go university and get the benefits that come with that, then surely you should pay?

Good point, we can discuss at the Semi when you're sat infront of me. :)

-- Sun Mar 27, 2011 2:47 pm --

We're really fortunate then, £9000 a year is horrible.

Indeed. Emerging after 3 years with a debt of £42,000 is unimaginable.

Are you studying maths?<br /><br />-- Sun Mar 27, 2011 2:48 pm --<br /><br />

It's totally unacceptable. Those sort of figures are obscene. My missus will finish her Masters at the University of Mcr in Sept and will leave with debts of £18K. That's bad enough. And that's without attending a single Indie disco or Ball.

So any young students will be up to their eyes in debt forever and that's without a mortgage.
Working class people - wave goodbye to higher education. You're not welcome.

Absolute gash

Correct.

 

[Halfpenny]

Indeed. Emerging after 3 years with a debt of £42,000 is unimaginable.

Are you studying maths?

Funnily enough, tuition fees aren't the only loan you take at uni.

 

[SWP's back]

But what about the thousands of students that will come out of University and not get well paid jobs? What happens to that £9000 a year? It'll be lost.

Like it currently is at present you mean?<br /><br />-- Sun Mar 27, 2011 2:51 pm --<br /><br />

Are you studying maths?

Funnily enough, tuition fees aren't the only loan you take at uni.

I know I was being light-hearted.

People could always work at uni to help you avoid personal loans. I did.

 

[117 M34]

Does anyone know if the masters courses (part time) have also gone up in price and to how much?

 

[hilts]

i think certain courses that are relevant to future skill shortages should be for a reduced fee, all others paid for at some point by the student, uni's should be for people who want to learn rather than about a lifesyle

 

[PSmyth07]

But what about the thousands of students that will come out of University and not get well paid jobs? What happens to that £9000 a year? It'll be lost.

Like it currently is at present you mean?

But theres a big difference between potentially £10,000 of debt and start paying back at £15,000 per annum and potentially £30,000 of debt and start paying back at I think it was £20,000 per annum.

Also there won't be many people who can walk out of Uni and get a well paid job. Many will be looking into Junior positions which will only pay around £15,000 to £18,000 I suppose.

 

[Michael Corleone]

Well my sister is studying economics at Manchester Uni at the minute. And in her class she says only 6 people can speak english fluently (It's a big class, 50+ i think). The rest struggle massively or can't speak it at all.

Surely this is unacceptable, giving places to students from overseas before british students just because they pay almost 3 times as much, even though they have the same equivalent grades.

Now I know that these students from overseas are usually incredibly gifted but in my opinion it is money rules in Universities, because i've known a lot of gifted people to be turned away even though they had the grades.

These 9 grand a year fees are going to work as to barrier to some lower class people. Think of those wanting to do 5 year courses, £45000 in debt from fees alone, never mind housing. We're told people will get loans to cover it, but realistically the banks aren't going to dish out 11+ grand a year to loads of students with the possibility of never getting it back. It just doesn't make economic sense.

I skilled workforce in the future will provide much more money to the government than putting up these fees to save money in education.

 

[Halfpenny]

Well my sister is studying economics at Manchester Uni at the minute. And in her class she says only 6 people can speak english fluently (It's a big class, 50+ i think). The rest struggle massively or can't speak it at all.

Surely this is unacceptable, giving places to students from overseas before british students just because they pay almost 3 times as much, even though they have the same equivalent grades.

Now I know that these students from overseas are usually incredibly gifted but in my opinion it is money rules in Universities, because i've known a lot of gifted people to be turned away even though they had the grades.

These 9 grand a year fees are going to work as to barrier to some lower class people. Think of those wanting to do 5 year courses, £45000 in debt from fees alone, never mind housing. We're told people will get loans to cover it, but realistically the banks aren't going to dish out 11+ grand a year to loads of students with the possibility of never getting it back. It just doesn't make economic sense.

I skilled workforce in the future will provide much more money to the government than putting up these fees to save money in education.

It's not the banks who administer them, it's still Student Finance. You get a fee loan which is paid directly to the uni, and a maintenance loan which is what you spend on rent, food etc. Know what you're saying though, people doing 5 year courses will be in about 70k worth of debt when they're finished.

 

[denislawsbackheel]

Well my sister is studying economics at Manchester Uni at the minute. And in her class she says only 6 people can speak english fluently (It's a big class, 50+ i think). The rest struggle massively or can't speak it at all.

Surely this is unacceptable, giving places to students from overseas before british students just because they pay almost 3 times as much, even though they have the same equivalent grades.

Now I know that these students from overseas are usually incredibly gifted but in my opinion it is money rules in Universities, because i've known a lot of gifted people to be turned away even though they had the grades.

These 9 grand a year fees are going to work as to barrier to some lower class people. Think of those wanting to do 5 year courses, £45000 in debt from fees alone, never mind housing. We're told people will get loans to cover it, but realistically the banks aren't going to dish out 11+ grand a year to loads of students with the possibility of never getting it back. It just doesn't make economic sense.

I skilled workforce in the future will provide much more money to the government than putting up these fees to save money in education.

It isn't the banks! It is the taxpayer. You and me.

-- Sun Mar 27, 2011 3:19 pm --

What a balloon!
YOU are paying the £9000 a year, the tax payer.
It will be decades before you see any of it back and even under ideal conditions the government admit the taxpayer will never see more than 75% of the loans total back due to early deaths, not working after graduation, never earning enough to pay off, graduates buggering off abroad and not declaring it and EU students fucking off and not paying anything back.

You can't actually be this thick?

Go on then Einstein..
Give us the benefit of your knowledge or are you just a know nothing gobshite?
Tell me where the government's own figures are wrong.