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Mancini 'arrogant and vain'
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m7mcfc
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Forza Mancini...all day for me.
yeseye
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Who's the kit man, Adam Johnson?
"I wash the skid marks out of the footballers' underwear after it has been soiled by over 90 sweaty minutes of relentless scrote cheese. Mancini didn't say thank you for the me doing my very important job, so I'm going to be a cowardly little shit and make stuff up about him." -muttered the former Kitman, as he swapped a load of prison laundry out of the washing machine.
Manchester City may face a two-week wait to secure Manuel Pellegrini as their replacement for sacked manager Roberto Mancini but will not be cowed by the Chilean’s strong negotiating position into giving him the same powers commanded by the Italian.
Pellegrini’s awareness that he is top of City’s list – Carlo Ancelotti may feature as a back-up with Chelsea’s Rafael Benitez not in contention – gives him a powerful bargaining hand, knowing that it would be embarrassing for City to miss out on him now. But after a Mancini era that was characterised by the manager’s high-handed belief that only Italians could be trusted in ancillary roles, Pellegrini’s job description will be more limited and precisely defined and he will be expected to collaborate in a way Mancini never did. He will have no command over the medical department which Mancini overrode with alternative treatments of his own. And it is unlikely that he will bring in around 12 staff, including a de-facto valet, as Mancini did.
It emerged in the aftermath of yesterday’s dismissal just how uneasy the club had become about his riding roughshod over the medical department. The Italian was unwilling to use Jamie Murphy, the club doctor he inherited, but then fell out with his successor, Phil Batty. When Mancini made his way down a line of staff to shake their hands after last May’s Premier League title success, he blanked the medical staff and walked straight past. Batty, who is highly rated, left for Blackburn Rovers last September, 18 months after Murphy quit, having also fallen out with Mancini.
The Italian insisted on overseeing medicals himself, would override traditional treatment and held far greater store in his compatriot Sergio Vigano, who put himself at the manager’s disposal after working with him for years, beginning when Mancini arrived at Sampdoria as a 17-year-old with muscular problems. Mancini insisted a number of his players go for consultations to the remote location where Vigano, who is in his mid-70s, is based. Mancini made an SOS call to him 40 days before the end of last season, saying he urgently required him at City, where Vigano has said he treated Vincent Kompany, Pablo Zabaleta and Samir Nasri. He seems to have operated as a psychologist last spring, trying to secure physiological benefits by limiting the players’ stress.
Though Mancini would fly in the face of medical opinion to pursue alternative treatments and get players back more quickly, City did top the Premier League list for fewest injuries last season, compiled by physioroom.com. Some players were sceptical, though, and it was the manager’s tendency to call them out in public which caused most rancour, with even James Milner – one of the lowest-maintenance players in elite football – getting fed up. Mancini’s criticism of Joe Hart, a popular character, for his honesty about September’s Champions League defeat to Real Madrid in the Bernabeu, corroded the squad’s feelings for him. Mancini was alerted minutes before the Bernabeu press conference that Hart had candidly told the TV cameras that City’s players “blame ourselves” and was advised not to give oxygen to the story by answering questions. But he did. “Joe Hart should go in goal and make saves,” he told journalists.
The players’ sense that Mario Balotelli, the only player who displayed much warmth towards Mancini, got preferential treatment, also had a corrosive effect but the strongest antipathy came from support staff. City’s former kit man and now assistant at Sunderland, Stephen Aziz, declared on Twitter yesterday: “Arrogant, vein [sic], self-centred no manners ignorant just some of Mancini’s daily traits really made going into work a grind!!”
Mancini installed his own Italian chef and coaching staff including Attilio Lombardo, the Elite Development Squad manager, who will be asked to step down from a role sources suggest he was not suited to. The root of the problem lay in the recruitment of Mancini. When the club initially met him in Amsterdam, as they prepared to remove Mark Hughes, they were short of a fully qualified translator. At a subsequent meeting at a hotel in Sardinia in 2009 – on the same trip that Brendan Rodgers was taken to meet him with a view to becoming his assistant – City anticipated calling the shots. Mancini was out of work at that time. But they left wondering how he had managed to negotiate most of his own requests.
When City declared on Monday night that Mancini’s dismissal was because of a “need to develop a holistic approach to all aspects of football at the club,” it was an allusion to these traits in the Italian, who had little interest in the medium- to long-term planning of the club and to the idea of collaboration, which he saw as someone else’s responsibility. City want a seamless connection between football at all levels, with all ancillary departments contributing: the development of “one house of football,” as a senior source put it.
City’s chief executive, Ferran Soriano, and sporting director, Txiki Begiristain, are convinced that Pellegrini will be more collaborative, having checked out his background and philosophies. The Chilean’s five-year success at Villarreal, where he helped the Doig ceramics family inculcate a technical passing game based on 4-4-2 for the club from 2004, is seen as a shining light on his CV, especially the club’s progress in the Champions League – topped off by their 2006 semi-final appearance against Arsenal. In footballing terms, it is understood that Mancini’s failings in the Champions League killed his hopes more than the failure to retain the Premier League title.
A number of the Mancini entourage were preparing to take their leave from City, including the ex-manager’s faithful assistant, Jose, whose tasks included washing the manager’s bicycle when he rode to work. His loyalty became a standing joke. City’s executives moved with deadly seriousness.
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Pellegrini’s awareness that he is top of City’s list – Carlo Ancelotti may feature as a back-up with Chelsea’s Rafael Benitez not in contention – gives him a powerful bargaining hand, knowing that it would be embarrassing for City to miss out on him now. But after a Mancini era that was characterised by the manager’s high-handed belief that only Italians could be trusted in ancillary roles, Pellegrini’s job description will be more limited and precisely defined and he will be expected to collaborate in a way Mancini never did. He will have no command over the medical department which Mancini overrode with alternative treatments of his own. And it is unlikely that he will bring in around 12 staff, including a de-facto valet, as Mancini did.
It emerged in the aftermath of yesterday’s dismissal just how uneasy the club had become about his riding roughshod over the medical department. The Italian was unwilling to use Jamie Murphy, the club doctor he inherited, but then fell out with his successor, Phil Batty. When Mancini made his way down a line of staff to shake their hands after last May’s Premier League title success, he blanked the medical staff and walked straight past. Batty, who is highly rated, left for Blackburn Rovers last September, 18 months after Murphy quit, having also fallen out with Mancini.
The Italian insisted on overseeing medicals himself, would override traditional treatment and held far greater store in his compatriot Sergio Vigano, who put himself at the manager’s disposal after working with him for years, beginning when Mancini arrived at Sampdoria as a 17-year-old with muscular problems. Mancini insisted a number of his players go for consultations to the remote location where Vigano, who is in his mid-70s, is based. Mancini made an SOS call to him 40 days before the end of last season, saying he urgently required him at City, where Vigano has said he treated Vincent Kompany, Pablo Zabaleta and Samir Nasri. He seems to have operated as a psychologist last spring, trying to secure physiological benefits by limiting the players’ stress.
Though Mancini would fly in the face of medical opinion to pursue alternative treatments and get players back more quickly, City did top the Premier League list for fewest injuries last season, compiled by physioroom.com. Some players were sceptical, though, and it was the manager’s tendency to call them out in public which caused most rancour, with even James Milner – one of the lowest-maintenance players in elite football – getting fed up. Mancini’s criticism of Joe Hart, a popular character, for his honesty about September’s Champions League defeat to Real Madrid in the Bernabeu, corroded the squad’s feelings for him. Mancini was alerted minutes before the Bernabeu press conference that Hart had candidly told the TV cameras that City’s players “blame ourselves” and was advised not to give oxygen to the story by answering questions. But he did. “Joe Hart should go in goal and make saves,” he told journalists.
The players’ sense that Mario Balotelli, the only player who displayed much warmth towards Mancini, got preferential treatment, also had a corrosive effect but the strongest antipathy came from support staff. City’s former kit man and now assistant at Sunderland, Stephen Aziz, declared on Twitter yesterday: “Arrogant, vein [sic], self-centred no manners ignorant just some of Mancini’s daily traits really made going into work a grind!!”
Mancini installed his own Italian chef and coaching staff including Attilio Lombardo, the Elite Development Squad manager, who will be asked to step down from a role sources suggest he was not suited to. The root of the problem lay in the recruitment of Mancini. When the club initially met him in Amsterdam, as they prepared to remove Mark Hughes, they were short of a fully qualified translator. At a subsequent meeting at a hotel in Sardinia in 2009 – on the same trip that Brendan Rodgers was taken to meet him with a view to becoming his assistant – City anticipated calling the shots. Mancini was out of work at that time. But they left wondering how he had managed to negotiate most of his own requests.
When City declared on Monday night that Mancini’s dismissal was because of a “need to develop a holistic approach to all aspects of football at the club,” it was an allusion to these traits in the Italian, who had little interest in the medium- to long-term planning of the club and to the idea of collaboration, which he saw as someone else’s responsibility. City want a seamless connection between football at all levels, with all ancillary departments contributing: the development of “one house of football,” as a senior source put it.
City’s chief executive, Ferran Soriano, and sporting director, Txiki Begiristain, are convinced that Pellegrini will be more collaborative, having checked out his background and philosophies. The Chilean’s five-year success at Villarreal, where he helped the Doig ceramics family inculcate a technical passing game based on 4-4-2 for the club from 2004, is seen as a shining light on his CV, especially the club’s progress in the Champions League – topped off by their 2006 semi-final appearance against Arsenal. In footballing terms, it is understood that Mancini’s failings in the Champions League killed his hopes more than the failure to retain the Premier League title.
A number of the Mancini entourage were preparing to take their leave from City, including the ex-manager’s faithful assistant, Jose, whose tasks included washing the manager’s bicycle when he rode to work. His loyalty became a standing joke. City’s executives moved with deadly seriousness.
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bluemathlady
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Not an easy man to please, this Mancini...
bluejon
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waiting to see if more stories like this come out in the wash
bluejon said:waiting to see if more stories like this come out in the wash
Here's another from behind the Telegraph pay wall:
Manchester City's players greet Roberto Mancini's departure with 'delight' and 'relief'
Roberto Mancini’s dismissal as Manchester City manager has been received with “delight” and “relief” by the first-team squad and remaining members of the backroom team as a result of intense antipathy towards the Italian’s dictatorial approach.
Mancini, who guided Manchester City to the Premier League title last season, was sacked on the first anniversary of that triumph following a decision by chairman Khaldoon al Mubarak to end the 48-year-old’s increasingly acrimonious reign. Malaga coach Manuel Pellegrini is set to replace Mancini.
On Tuesday night City confirmed that David Platt’s Mancini’s assistant, had decided to follow the manager out of the door.
A club statement said: “"With regret Manchester City announce that David Platt has this afternoon left his role as Assistant Manager at the Club.
"David was offered the opportunity to continue his work with us but has declined the invitation. He has decided to leave his role with his close friend Roberto Mancini.”
Although none of the club’s senior players was prepared to air his sentiments through social media sites on Twitter and Facebook in the wake of Mancini’s departure, it is understood that the manager had no remaining allies on the playing staff by the time he lost his job on Monday evening.
Mario Balotelli, who was sold to AC Milan in January, is believed to have been the only significant member of the team to carry any lingering admiration for Mancini, whose repeated public attacks on his players caused fury among the squad.
Mancini’s withering criticism of England goalkeeper Joe Hart following the Champions League defeat against Real Madrid last September proved the most damaging of his outbursts, with that condemnation hardening the ill-feeling towards the former Inter Milan coach.
Captain Vincent Kompany, French midfielder Samir Nasri and defender Micah Richards have also been the victims of Mancini’s outspoken comments.
Earlier this season, senior players privately voiced their annoyance with Mancini’s training methods and obsession with working on minor details of defending, while his reluctance to rotate his squad and rest key players also led to frustration.
And while the players are almost unanimously happy to see the back of Mancini, members of the coaching and medical staff also believe that his departure will lift the air of tension that has descended on the club’s Carrington training ground.
Some members of the medical team have spoken of Mancini’s overbearing nature and interference.
And a series of tweets on Monday evening from former City kitman Stephen Aziz, who left to work at Premier League rivals Sunderland last summer, highlighted the disdain shown towards Mancini by staff.
Aziz tweeted about Mancini: “Arrogant, vain, self-centred, no manners, ignorant – just some of the daily traits really made going into work a daily grind!! #karma”.
Meanwhile, City may be forced to wait until next month to confirm the appointment of Pellegrini.
With assistant manager Brian Kidd having been handed the responsibility of overseeing the first team for last night’s Premier League fixture at Reading and Sunday’s final game of the campaign at home to Norwich, City are prepared to wait for the season to end before accelerating moves to secure Pellegrini’s services.
Although reports of Barcelona’s interest in the Chilean are correct, it is understood that the Spanish champions have made only exploratory inquiries as to his availability should coach Tito Vilanova be forced to stand down due to health concerns.
City’s moves for Pellegrini are at an advanced stage, however, with lawyers for both parties exchanging contracts last week. With those contracts still unsigned, City only have Pellegrini’s verbal acceptance of the manager’s job on a £3.4 million-a-year deal – less than half Mancini’s £7.5 million salary.
There is a confidence at the Etihad Stadium, though, that a deal will be concluded once Malaga end their La Liga campaign against Barcelona at the Nou Camp on June 1.
Despite it being understood that Paris St-Germain coach Carlo Ancelotti has also been sounded out by City as an alternative to Pellegrini, senior figures at the club were unable to confirm that suggestion when it was put to them on Tuesday night.
However, speculation that Chelsea interim manager Rafael Benítez has emerged as a contingency plan have been dismissed by City.
With City’s sporting director Txiki Begiristain being involved in negotiations to recruit Pellegrini since February, the club believe that the 59-year-old’s record in Spain with Villarreal, Real Madrid and Malaga make him the outstanding candidate to lead the club in a new direction.
City have suffered ridicule for claiming in the statement confirming Mancini’s dismissal that the club is keen to pursue a more ‘holistic’ approach under a new manager.
However, the purpose was to highlight the desire of the club’s hierarchy to ensure a ‘connection and understanding’ between all departments of the club.
Mancini, in contrast, displayed little appetite to embrace this requirement and collaborate with senior figures throughout the club, but Pellegrini’s success at Villarreal, where he turned an unfashionable provincial club into Champions League semi-finalists, is regarded as evidence of his ability to work in the manner required.
IcriedwhenTueartleft
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Persil-any, I think it's all coming out in the wash. He's been very Bold saying this.