Mancini Breaking News Part 4

[Balti]

It sis becoming obvious that he has lost the support of a large part of the organisation that he works for, yet you think it is their fault and not Mancini's?

An organisation that didn't go and get the manager of the 2011/2012 premier league champions the players he identified to kick the club on to compete on two fronts.

An organisation that let him be dismantled by journos the night of an F.A cup final loss.

An organisation that will replace him with a dour tactician who hasn't won a trophy in a decade.

A manager that had the number of Sir Alex Ferguson. Who won the league ahead of the schedule set out for him by the very same organisation.

Put opinions on the manager aside, is everyone at least in agreement that this fucking stinks?

yes it does stink.. 1 year ago today was the greatest day in many City fans lives.
Bob is being treated poorly, if hes going,then let him go with dignity,not in a blaze of press pisstaking and disloyalty.

Spot on.

 

[gelly]

If someone isn't performing, from the playing staff to the tea lady, then he has the right to criticize in whatever way he feels fit.

Ferguson has criticized everyone at United over the years and not only gotten away with it.

Let me put it this way.. A fucking PR executive isn't going to win us the Premier League next season.. so see ya Vicky love. The manager should be number 1.

I totally agree he can criticize who he wants, only try doing it in private or at a meeting or over a cup of tea. No I don't think I will thanks I will do it in press in public. Classless. As for Vicky not winning it next year well it looks like your beloved won't be either so see ya too

a press conference where she was in attendance

shirley it was her job to keep/ steer the questions on track

Bobby should never have had to face those questions

''You said you don’t understand why the club haven’t stopped the reports?''

''Would you be happy to go to New York without knowing if you will keep your job?''

''But it would be ridiculous to sack you, wouldn’t it?''

''There were the same reports at Inter, weren’t there?''

''Why haven’t you asked anyone at City to stop these stories?''

''These stories don’t help though, do they?''

''Were the players you signed last summer your players or did someone buy them for you''

''Did you sign those players because they were the only ones left?''

''You said Vicky should stop these rumours but she can only do that if someone on the board tells her to?''

''Arsene Wenger hasn’t won a trophy for eight years, David Moyes has never won a trophy. Why are you in this situation?''

''But you can’t blame Vicky?''

''You’re still popular with the fans, do you think that will help you keep your job?''
etc etc

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What sort of fucking questions are these to be left unchallenged by the chief communications officer? were these sanctioned in advance? if not why not? why did she not step in and stop the awkward questions as she was stood there listening? What choice did he have but to respond the way he did when he was clearly under attack?!?!

He has done nothing wrong here in my eyes. Can you imagine these questions being allowed at certain other clubs?

The club, or an individual (s), seem to have purposely fed him to the lions.

He does not deserve that.

Amateur stuff, should have had a media blackout or banned BS questions. She knew Bobby would be a lamb out for slaughter. No wonder he is angry with her.

 

[Didsbury Dave]

I just don't see what the club were supposed to do. "hey, roberto, we're going to fire you in a week and a half, but please do a good job coaching until then."

It's unreasonable. The plan all along was probably to wait until the end of the season and have a "process" whereby they'd fire him. Maybe before NY trip just to spare him that farce. The news got out early and the club should be concerned about the manner of that happening, but once it got out they can't really back him and then fire him in a week. They can't realistically pre-announce his firing. Yeah, it got ugly, but it realistically got ugly the second the news picked up steam, at that point there was realistically no way to put the cat back in the bag, so to speak.

You've got it bang on mate.

There is nothing the club could do differently about this. It's just moral high grounding and blame gaming which diverts from the key fact.

The hierarchy have decided that Mancini isn't the man for the club. A brave and, I believe, correct decision.

 

[pominoz]

So the people with the same opinion as you can detract from Mancini can say what they want, but when I try and substantiate my opinion and support the manager of the football club, that is not Kosher.. ok.

It sis becoming obvious that he has lost the support of a large part of the organisation that he works for, yet you think it is their fault and not Mancini's?

An organisation that didn't go and get the manager of the 2011/2012 premier league champions the players he identified to kick the club on to compete on two fronts.

An organisation that let him be dismantled by journos the night of an F.A cup final loss.

An organisation that will replace him with a dour tactician who hasn't won a trophy in a decade.

A manager that had the number of Sir Alex Ferguson. Who won the league ahead of the schedule set out for him by the very same organisation.

Put opinions on the manager aside, is everyone at least in agreement that this fucking stinks?

Again it begs the question, why would they do that if everything is rosey in the garden?
Save your bile until the facts come out.

 

[BobKowalski]

That's twice in as many days the club left him a sitting duck, and it cost them.

Alright. Lets work on the basis that everyone at the club - from Khaldoun downwards, woke up on Saturday morning and thought "fuck it, lets leave Mancini hanging in today's press conference and give him no assurances about his job and no support from ourselves."

If they did do that then they must dislike him pretty intensely. They were all in town, and will have all woken to the same headlines we woke to. With Hughes the reason given for him having to take charge against Sunderland was that Khaldoun wanted to tell him face to face and therefore it was delayed until he arrived in the UK even though we all knew it was coming. This wasn't the case on Saturday. Anyone from the hierarchy at City could've spoken to Vicky and made Mancini's day easier.

Sometimes you can glean more from someone's inaction, than from their action.

I don't care if they like him or not. This is unfair to your supporters at this point, and the owners have an obligation to the people they want money from. I'm not being unreasonable either and suggesting anything crazy like they should consult fans about hiring a manager or something nonsensical. They do however have an obligation to act professionally and not make decisions based on petty vendettas.

And if that's not the case and people are coming to incorrect conclusions, it's the club's own damn fault for sitting their silently.

Agreed.

 

[pudge]

That's twice in as many days the club left him a sitting duck, and it cost them.

Alright. Lets work on the basis that everyone at the club - from Khaldoun downwards, woke up on Saturday morning and thought "fuck it, lets leave Mancini hanging in today's press conference and give him no assurances about his job and no support from ourselves."

If they did do that then they must dislike him pretty intensely. They were all in town, and will have all woken to the same headlines we woke to. With Hughes the reason given for him having to take charge against Sunderland was that Khaldoun wanted to tell him face to face and therefore it was delayed until he arrived in the UK even though we all knew it was coming. This wasn't the case on Saturday. Anyone from the hierarchy at City could've spoken to Vicky and made Mancini's day easier.

Sometimes you can glean more from someone's inaction, than from their action.

Vicky Kloss isn't the inanimate puppet you are making her out to be.

It's her job to brief and handle the press. Especially in situations such as post game interviews when club stances can't be discussed from higher up.

To stand back and allow the questions, that Balti has highlighted, was poor. She's there to deal with those exact circumstances.

As for issuing a statement, it was unprofessional of the CLUB to let the manager be undermined and under pressure on the eve, and day, of our biggest game of he season.

Forget behind the scenes politics, City should come first.

 

[Josh Blue]

The English media cannot wait to see the back of Mancini.

They hate him, they can't hide their collective smurk.

 

[FanchesterCity]

So Kloss was present during the interview?

For what reason then? Does she needs the boards approval to intervene or was it just wrong of her to allow some of the questions that were asked?

Mancini said Vicky should've done more to stop the stories. Even the journos were surprised by this comment and suggested it was the board's job to give her the mandate to quash the stories and they hadn't so Vicky's hands were tired - which is true.

It's also worth noting that Mancini isn't some wet behind the ears kid who doesn't understand the way the press work or the way big political football clubs like City work. He will have known why the stories weren't being squashed. Again he could've asked Ferran or Khaldoun to instruct Vicky to kill the stories.

What is coming to light is that Mancini's relationship was so poor with so many people behind the scenes that communication was almost non existent.

It seems to be reasonably well accepted that Mancini is not a particularly nice guy. Any interviews with ex team mates from his playing days confirm this, they all talk of him being an extremely difficult person. Now I know he isn't at the club to be everyone's best mate but the bottom line is that if he has pissed off large parts of the playing squad and plenty of his colleagues at the club (and potentially the decision makers above him) then he is completely reliant on being successful on the pitch to keep his job. It seems pretty obvious to me from the way the club have handled this that there is little or no goodwill towards Mancini at the club and now performances on the pitch have dipped significantly, he's fucked.

Disagree with that, plenty of people support him. It's true they say he's not exactly 'best mates' with everybody, but neither is/was Ferguson. Both have the attitude that THEY are the boss, and you either accept it, or don't play / leave.

One man's steely determination is another's stubbornness - often depending on the result they achieve.

There's are some 'nice guys' out there too, ones that might capitulate to a strong willed player. Is that what we want? Maybe we do?

I'm not saying Mancini's attitude is right or wrong, merely that when results aren't going well, the manager will either be too soft or too stubborn, and when results are going well, those attributes are applauded.

He is what he is, and it's who City chose. Mancini didn't choose City, they chose him. They did their homework, right? They knew his manner last year when they offered a new deal, right? Has he changed his tune, or have Manchester City changed theirs?

I think it's been a disappointing but not disastrous season. We've had a dip. The fans are upset at results and speculation, and I suspect the club itself is rather torn on what to do for the best.

I think it's wise for the club and the fans to take a deep breath, look at the league table, secure second place, KNOW we are in CL once AGAIN for next year, and look forward to freshening up parts of the team. We've had a dip in form, not a death in the family.

Keep calm and carry on Manchester City... 3 years ago I'd have more than settled for what Mancini's brought us. I see no reason to now think it's not enough.

 

[Sky Blue]

The hierarchy have decided that Mancini isn't the man for the club. A brave and, I believe, correct decision.

We will see in 12 months time. Can't say I'm too confident.

 

[BorisTheBlue]

Youth player Gabriel Fernando tweeted this then deleted it.

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Then he deserves a clip round the ear!

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