Mancini Breaking News Part 5 (Club Statement Update page 67)

[mackenzie]

Re: Mancini Breaking News Part 4

To coin a phrase "WHAT AN ABSOLUTE LOAD OF BOLLOCKS"
Have you seen a copy of her contract stipulating her role etc.
You really hate her for some unknown reason.Perhaps your hatred is related to more of a Police nature than anything else.
I take it that letter hasn`t been forthcoming from you to her or an e-mail ??
Bbbbbbbbbbwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.

I think you've misunderstood the post about sending the club a letter. Someone suggested that was a good way of informing the club of my opinion that they should back the manager on Saturday morning. I replied back saying thanks for the advice, but I don't think the letter would arrive in time. I was taking the piss out of them, and seemingly, you.

I have got no hatred for Vicky Kloss, I don't know her to hate her. What I hate is that the whole day of the FA Cup final was overshadowed because this wasn't dealt with. The fans mood and staff and players performance was affected because of the press, and it could have been so easily dealt with.

I have not seen her contract, as I'm sure you haven't. Whoever is ultimately responsible for the club not backing the manager on Saturday morning is at fault. I assume as Director of Comminications she is ultimately responsible. Perhaps she was overruled, perhaps it was the Sheik's ultimate decision to say nothing. Whoever ultimately made the decision was completely wrong, and the performance on Saturday proved that.

We have no way of linking the performance to the rumours

Far more likely to have upset the players was the dropping of Pants[/quote


Eeewwww!! ;-)

 

[MSP]

Re: Mancini Breaking News Part 4

Huge disrespect being shown to Mancini by Barca duo. Mancini whether you want him gone or not is a City legend. These clowns have it all to do.

You probably have missed Mancini claiming that they are not his bosses and that he is not responsible to them but only Khaldoon.

When you not only cannot admit that you are subordinate to your supervisor, but make a public statement of it, then you have surely made a rod for your own back.

I'm not sure that moment was something that lost him a job, people who run City are more serious than that, but it does show how delusional and robbed from reality he is as well how those that are trying to defend him at any price are. They were probably w@nking on their Bobby's statement and power when he said that and now suddenly are crying how is he disrespected by two of them who are apparently not above him.

 

[Summerbuzz]

Re: Mancini Breaking News Part 4

She is supposed to be our Malcolm Tucker not Mother Theresa - while it might not have been possible for her to categorically deny the story the job is to give out a line that throws people off the scent - or generates a story that diffuses the situation - not wishing to be too cynical but in my limited experience PR people accrue goodwill and scrupulous credibility in order that they can spend it at 'critical' times like these.

Speaking as one who thought it was time to move on from Mancini, and that he played his hand very badly, I still have sympathy with the view that he was effectively stitched up, or left hanging.

Vicky asking if he wanted to continue the interview was a bit odd in my eyes, if we know anything about Roberto's personality it is that he would never hide away in this sort of situation. I would have thought the job of managing corporate communications is about anticipating these problem situations, and managing them, somehow, anyhow. I find it hard to accept that someone immersed in all of this couldn't have forseen problems, and even harder to accept that there was nothing that could have been done better.

 

[Shaelumstash]

Re: Mancini Breaking News Part 4

I don't need any instruction on it thanks!

In fact, the only bollocks seems to be from you.

You clearly know nothing about Vicky Kloss that's for sure.

You make her sound like a bobby pounding the beat!

She is more than qualified and like I state, she is not a press officer.

She is responsible for corporate communications and has been fast-tracked up the ladder by Abu Dhabi, as a result of her work.

Kloss is not the go to person these days for the press.

What bollocks am I talking? I know she is not the press officer. I assume the press officer reports to her, so she is still ultimately responsible. Mancini seems to think she had the authority to come out and defend him, but seemingly you know better than him? Strange. Maybe you can find an 80s pop Youtube video to explain how that works?

I think perhaps you do need instruction on how PR works in 2013. To suggest there "wasn't time because they were all hurrying round in the team hotel on the morning of the Cup Final" shows a staggering naivety of the modern digital media world.

It would have taken seconds to do a 2 line backing of Mancini on the clubs official Twitter / website. That would then be reported as news on SSN, all the sports radio, online papers, social media etc within minutes. Dramatically altering the mood of fans, players and staff.

Even if Mancini is getting sacked, which seems certain, the fact the club didn't come out back the manager on Saturday was a monumental mistake.

So, as opposed to bragging how ITK you are, or how great Vicky Kloss is, actually address the points I've made if you think they are bollocks.

I've never heard him 'brag about how ITK he is'

And I know you don't like other people's opinions, but for what it's worth, I think you're a dick.

I do respect other people's opinions. But when they dismiss my opinions as "bollocks" without further explanation, I tend to ask for more concrete reasons.

You can think I'm a dick all you want, I don't know if you're a dick or not because I'm not aware of your opinions on things. I think the club should have backed the manager on Saturday morning, if you think that makes me a dick, I'd be happy to address the reasons why you think that if you tell me them. I won't get in to name calling though because it's a waste of time.

 

[Anonymous]

Re: Mancini Breaking News Part 4

De Boer's managerial career has gotten off to an impressive start, he is much like the Dutch Guardiola. But I think Pellegrini is a better choice for now, he is very savvy in Europe (which is a big priority for us) and has fantastic tactical prowess with modern ideas despite his age (some might say he's entering his managerial prime at 59). De Boer will probably be considered down the line.

Probably the right assessment there LC ... however you must agree that if Barca move for MP and actually manage to get him, FdB will probably be the next person to get the call from City.

 

[Blue Heaven]

Re: Mancini Breaking News Part 4

What bollocks am I talking? I know she is not the press officer. I assume the press officer reports to her, so she is still ultimately responsible. Mancini seems to think she had the authority to come out and defend him, but seemingly you know better than him? Strange. Maybe you can find an 80s pop Youtube video to explain how that works?

I think perhaps you do need instruction on how PR works in 2013. To suggest there "wasn't time because they were all hurrying round in the team hotel on the morning of the Cup Final" shows a staggering naivety of the modern digital media world.

It would have taken seconds to do a 2 line backing of Mancini on the clubs official Twitter / website. That would then be reported as news on SSN, all the sports radio, online papers, social media etc within minutes. Dramatically altering the mood of fans, players and staff.

Even if Mancini is getting sacked, which seems certain, the fact the club didn't come out back the manager on Saturday was a monumental mistake.

So, as opposed to bragging how ITK you are, or how great Vicky Kloss is, actually address the points I've made if you think they are bollocks.

You think the club should've backed the manager publicly on Saturday and then sacked him a week later, and you're accusing others of talking bollocks. Hahahaha.

Did you see Slurgie's quotes in the press last week that he wasn't leaving for a very long time yet? You still laughing?

Non-analogous situtations. No one will blame Slurgie for that little white lie, and even if they did, he wouldn't be around to deal with any fallout, would he?

 

[OB1]

Re: Mancini Breaking News Part 4

De Boer's managerial career has gotten off to an impressive start, he is much like the Dutch Guardiola. But I think Pellegrini is a better choice for now, he is very savvy in Europe (which is a big priority for us) and has fantastic tactical prowess with modern ideas despite his age (some might say he's entering his managerial prime at 59). De Boer will probably be considered down the line.

Must admit that I am quite comfortable now with the idea of Pellegrini.

I do think though that FdB is going to be a major success. If he doesn't manage us one day, he will end up at Barca.

 

[the goats backside]

Re: Mancini Breaking News Part 4

Trying to forget the rights and wrongs for now, are we about to be typical City again, revealing our 4th choice in July and then left with transfer dregs. But this can't happen we are far too professional now

 

[Brendan110_0]

Re: Mancini Breaking News Part 4

De Boer's managerial career has gotten off to an impressive start, he is much like the Dutch Guardiola. But I think Pellegrini is a better choice for now, he is very savvy in Europe (which is a big priority for us) and has fantastic tactical prowess with modern ideas despite his age (some might say he's entering his managerial prime at 59). De Boer will probably be considered down the line.

So why did he bomb out of the CL with Real Madrid if he's great in Europe? Bad luck follows him everywhere, we don't need that.

 

[The Man With The Stick]

Re: Mancini Breaking News Part 4

Wouldn't be a kick in the balls would it.

One thing's for sure. After six months of moral outrage at the notion that alternatives to Mancini should be discussed - I think we're on safe territory from here on forwards chatting about the relative merits of De Boer v Pellegrini etc.

Cards on table: de Boer would be my choice ahead of all but Klopp and Mou but neither of those are happening.

Only thing that worries me about De Boer is the importance of his backroom staff. They've got a talented bunch of lads there and we wouldn't get all of them.