Mancini Breaking News

[Paulmcfc2703]

Jose, Rafa probably others but only two I can think of right now...

Please show me quotes where these 2 moan about their bosses whilst they are still employed there?

Post any quote where Mancini has slagged the owners. Simple answer is you can't

So everytime he whines about not getting RVP, Hazard, De Rossi etc you think that has nothing to do with the Sheikh?

 

[pudge]

How is moaning everytime we play shit about not bringing in the players in he wanted not directed at the Sheikh?

Do you think Marwood held all the cards in the summer? Mancini and the Sheikh were willing to pay £35 million for Hazard but Marwood wouldn't let them.

Exaggerations like this lead to assumptions like yours.

Except the Dortmund game where he stated it was his fault and he knew the problems and would sort them out when has he ever taken responsibility. He moans and says 'Iz Football'

How is taking responsibility for a defeat "moaning"?

 

[MSP]

They should issue a statement of support or explain there decision to give him the boot.

They don't have to explain a shit to anyone and they won't explain a shit to anyone.

You will read a classic "wish you good luck Bobby, you will always be in our hearts" official statement, you'll see few Mancini's pics on the OS and that's it.

 

[taconinja]

Mourinho has never had a go at Perez, he's slated the media and his players but never the hierarchy and especially the owner

Did Mancini have a go at the owner? If so, I missed that part.

Mourinho has had a DoF fired by going directly against him using Madrid's title win over Barcelona. He attacks everyone. I say this as a fan of the man.

Yet Mancini's relationship with the Sheikh broke down. He clearly did something other than moan about the lack of spend to piss the Sheikh off

That isn't what you claimed. You made two claims. First you claimed Mancini moaned about the owner. If he has, please point that out as it changes things. Second, you claim Mourinho had not done the same moaning about a club's hierarchy. That is categorically incorrect.

 

[BobKowalski]

Any manager losing the dressing room not the odd player is gone, Slur bacon, Mou anybody, now look at the lack of movement at times from the middle of last season, none worse than Saturday, we will see how they play once the shackles come off, and everyone feels like they have a chance.

Not sure it applies to Mancini. Mancini has never had the dressing room. He does not court the dressing room. Mancini's angle is to make the players do it for themselves not for him. Doing it 'for the manager' is an alien concept. Its one of the reasons why he can improve players (well those he deems worthy and doesn't bomb out) he makes them look at themsleves and if they are the 'right types' improvement will come helped by the fact that Mancini is a very good technical coach.

But the lack of warmth or the personal touch may always be a problem but I doubt he will change that.

That works for year or two, when you exploit it to the last bit, it's a downfall then.

You can play hard games with someone for some time but when one, two or three get enough of that, you're doomed.

Yes. Unless you get rid of those two or three players. Its not a game though. It just the way he is. Like it. Don't like it. Mancini isn't interested one way or the other. Its tough environment that he creates. If you want it toned down you need to employ someone else. Which is what is happening I guess.

 

[mancityscot]

this whole thing could really all just be rumours. i personally hope it is. i would just prefer we get rid of marwood

 

[taconinja]

Please show me quotes where these 2 moan about their bosses whilst they are still employed there?

Post any quote where Mancini has slagged the owners. Simple answer is you can't

So everytime he whines about not getting RVP, Hazard, De Rossi etc you think that has nothing to do with the Sheikh?

No, it doesn't.

 

[Paulmcfc2703]

Exaggerations like this lead to assumptions like yours.

Except the Dortmund game where he stated it was his fault and he knew the problems and would sort them out when has he ever taken responsibility. He moans and says 'Iz Football'

How is taking responsibility for a defeat "moaning"?

Read the post again

 

[dancity19]

Shame this is being dragged out like this. Would really prefer the club to just make it official, and then negotiate the details in their own time.

It's hard to know what to make of what's happened in the last few days. I'm obviously glad he's going, I'd be a hypocrite to say otherwise. I'm disappointed that it's unfolding like this. If it's true that nobody (Khaldoun, Ferran etc) had given Mancini a clue that his job was in danger in the last couple of months, particularly in light of all the speculation, then thats unfortunate. However Mancini's a clever man who's been around the block enough time to know this is football.

Haha presume the "this is football" was intentional!
Agree-wish we could hear something. I am a little disappointed that we have barely heard anything from sorriano or txiki since they arrived. Think we may have to wait until tomorrow now though.....

 

[BobKowalski]

They should issue a statement of support or explain there decision to give him the boot.

They don't have to explain a shit to anyone and they won't explain a shit to anyone.

You will read a classic "wish you good luck Bobby, you will always be in our hearts" official statement, you'll see few Mancini's pics on the OS and that's it.

I should bloody hope so. A nice professional statement from both sides with love and kisses at the bottom for cosmetic reasons and to make us all feel better.

 

[toutmaster]

I don't care if he has pissed off anyone at the club if he is the man to take us forward I will still back him but some of the football this season with that squad has not been great . Some gut retching disasters Real Madrid with 5 mins left Southampton Tottenham with lescott upfront and out thought by his opposite number taking off tevez the weekend to name a few time for change pelligreni will step in and do a good job for a couple of years I am convinced of it he is well respected and much sort after in Europe just because he's no mourinho means jack shit the guys a class act ctid

 

[Paulmcfc2703]

Post any quote where Mancini has slagged the owners. Simple answer is you can't

So everytime he whines about not getting RVP, Hazard, De Rossi etc you think that has nothing to do with the Sheikh?

No, it doesn't.

Your right Marwood held all the cards.

Mancini wanted Hazard, the sheikh said great here's £35 million and Marwood said fuck that shit I'm off for a game of golf.

 

[MSP]

Not sure it applies to Mancini. Mancini has never had the dressing room. He does not court the dressing room. Mancini's angle is to make the players do it for themselves not for him. Doing it 'for the manager' is an alien concept. Its one of the reasons why he can improve players (well those he deems worthy and doesn't bomb out) he makes them look at themsleves and if they are the 'right types' improvement will come helped by the fact that Mancini is a very good technical coach.

But the lack of warmth or the personal touch may always be a problem but I doubt he will change that.

That works for year or two, when you exploit it to the last bit, it's a downfall then.

You can play hard games with someone for some time but when one, two or three get enough of that, you're doomed.

Yes. Unless you get rid of those two or three players. Its not a game though. It just the way he is. Like it. Don't like it. Mancini isn't interested one way or the other. Its tough environment that he creates. If you want it toned down you need to employ someone else. Which is what is happening I guess.

That's exactly why it can't work. Making such a tense environment is a bomb and it's not a matter if it will explode but when will it explode.

That's why managers like Mancini or Mourinho last 2-3 years no matter what level of success they deliver in that time. Soon or later someone up there gets enough of that and launches a fook off line.

Even Ferguson with almost unlimited power never ever had a word bad about people in power, he was their puppy whenever they needed it and played a hardball with everyone else. Mancini took the line up and started to mess with people he never should mess with.

 

[pudge]

Except the Dortmund game where he stated it was his fault and he knew the problems and would sort them out when has he ever taken responsibility. He moans and says 'Iz Football'

How is taking responsibility for a defeat "moaning"?

Read the post again

Everton

Ajax

Liverpool

Europa League

 

[taconinja]

So everytime he whines about not getting RVP, Hazard, De Rossi etc you think that has nothing to do with the Sheikh?

No, it doesn't.

Your right Marwood held all the cards.

Mancini wanted Hazard, the sheikh said great here's £35 million and Marwood said fuck that shit I'm off for a game of golf.

If Marwood was better at his former job, he would have had Hazard signed, sealed, and delivered whilst Chelsea was still spinning their wheels.

Your points aren't aided by your gross exaggerations nor your attempts to shift the goals.

 

[Anonymous]

Shame this is being dragged out like this. Would really prefer the club to just make it official, and then negotiate the details in their own time.

It's hard to know what to make of what's happened in the last few days. I'm obviously glad he's going, I'd be a hypocrite to say otherwise. I'm disappointed that it's unfolding like this. If it's true that nobody (Khaldoun, Ferran etc) had given Mancini a clue that his job was in danger in the last couple of months, particularly in light of all the speculation, then thats unfortunate. However Mancini's a clever man who's been around the block enough time to know this is football.

Haha presume the "this is football" was intentional!
Agree-wish we could hear something. I am a little disappointed that we have barely heard anything from sorriano or txiki since they arrived. Think we may have to wait until tomorrow now though.....

If the quotes out of Italy have been translated correctly, the club have told Mancini that they're sacking him but would like him to see out the last two games. He has not decided one way or the other yet whether he will or he won't, so I guess we'll know tomorrow. Hope he does see the season out as it'll be a real fucking shame if this gets so bitter that everyone doesn't get to give him a proper send off and thank him for everything he's done.

 

[taconinja]

That works for year or two, when you exploit it to the last bit, it's a downfall then.

You can play hard games with someone for some time but when one, two or three get enough of that, you're doomed.

Yes. Unless you get rid of those two or three players. Its not a game though. It just the way he is. Like it. Don't like it. Mancini isn't interested one way or the other. Its tough environment that he creates. If you want it toned down you need to employ someone else. Which is what is happening I guess.

That's exactly why it can't work. Making such a tense environment is a bomb and it's not a matter if it will explode but when will it explode.

That's why managers like Mancini or Mourinho last 2-3 years no matter what level of success they deliver in that time. Soon or later someone up there gets enough of that and launches a fook off line.

Agreed on that point certainly. I still think some at the club should swallow their pride and do what it takes to get Mourinho in though.

 

[MSP]

Shame this is being dragged out like this. Would really prefer the club to just make it official, and then negotiate the details in their own time.

It's hard to know what to make of what's happened in the last few days. I'm obviously glad he's going, I'd be a hypocrite to say otherwise. I'm disappointed that it's unfolding like this. If it's true that nobody (Khaldoun, Ferran etc) had given Mancini a clue that his job was in danger in the last couple of months, particularly in light of all the speculation, then thats unfortunate. However Mancini's a clever man who's been around the block enough time to know this is football.

Haha presume the "this is football" was intentional!
Agree-wish we could hear something. I am a little disappointed that we have barely heard anything from sorriano or txiki since they arrived. Think we may have to wait until tomorrow now though.....

If the quotes out of Italy have been translated correctly, the club have told Mancini that they're sacking him but would like him to see out the last two games. He has not decided one way or the other yet whether he will or he won't, so I guess we'll know tomorrow. Hope he does see the season out as it'll be a real fucking shame if this gets so bitter that everyone doesn't get to give him a proper send off and thank him for everything he's done.

That's my wish too- as much as I think it's time to go, the club should do exactly that.

It would be mental to cut him off week before the end of the season unless he decides to do that. In that case club would be clean and would do it as it should be done and he would be bitter.

 

[Marvin]

this whole thing could really all just be rumours. i personally hope it is. i would just prefer we get rid of marwood

Setting a lot of fans against marwood reflects well on Mancini? It doesn't. We had the same thing with Tevez. And maybe others too

I'm not enjoying this at all. City breaking up with mancini. But you have to ask yourself why City are looking elsewhere. They'd only do so if there were issues.

 

[dancity19]

Shame this is being dragged out like this. Would really prefer the club to just make it official, and then negotiate the details in their own time.

It's hard to know what to make of what's happened in the last few days. I'm obviously glad he's going, I'd be a hypocrite to say otherwise. I'm disappointed that it's unfolding like this. If it's true that nobody (Khaldoun, Ferran etc) had given Mancini a clue that his job was in danger in the last couple of months, particularly in light of all the speculation, then thats unfortunate. However Mancini's a clever man who's been around the block enough time to know this is football.

Haha presume the "this is football" was intentional!
Agree-wish we could hear something. I am a little disappointed that we have barely heard anything from sorriano or txiki since they arrived. Think we may have to wait until tomorrow now though.....

If the quotes out of Italy have been translated correctly, the club have told Mancini that they're sacking him but would like him to see out the last two games. He has not decided one way or the other yet whether he will or he won't, so I guess we'll know tomorrow. Hope he does see the season out as it'll be a real fucking shame if this gets so bitter that everyone doesn't get to give him a proper send off and thank him for everything he's done.

Completely agree. Regardless about what anyone has said, or what opinions we hold on what is best for city, I think we all agree he deserved a good send off for the memories he's given us. And I hope he gets it.