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Paulmcfc2703 said:
pudge said:
Paulmcfc2703 said:
At the end of the day it seems its either Mancini or the Sheikh. I know who I'm backing.

Mancini did great for us but the 5 year contract seems to have given him licence to say whatever the fuck he wants which is not on.
What has he said that's wrong though?

He may be blunt but that doesn't mean he's wrong.
This season he has criticised numerous players publicly, whined constantly about Marwood, pissed and moaned about how the Sheikh wouldn't by all his £30 million plus signings and now he's having a go at the CEO, DOF and the PR dept. How many other managers have you seen attack numerous aspects of their club so publicly?
Players such as Nasri who has been awful all season? Again, it may have been blunt but his criticisms weren't wrong.

Marwood dropped the ball in the transfer window last summer, again, he's not wrong.

The club should have made a statement, no if's, and's or but's. It was incredibly unprofessional of the club to let the manager be undermined and under pressure the eve of our biggest match of the season.

And he's never moaned about the Sheikh to my knowledge.

Yes he may come across as arrogant or blunt, but that doesn't mean he's wrong.
 
Paulmcfc2703 said:
taconinja said:
MCFC-Scott said:
I like Martin Samuel, but that's a fucking dreadful article. There's a reason there is few British managers in top jobs, they're simply not good enough.

Who's he suggesting we replace Mancini with? Pardew or Clarke? Give me strength.
Actually he does bring up the salient point regarding Martinez and Pellegrini. At least one of them has won a trophy in the past decade.

-- Sun May 12, 2013 7:04 pm --

Paulmcfc2703 said:
This season he has criticised numerous players publicly, whined constantly about Marwood, pissed and moaned about how the Sheikh wouldn't by all his £30 million plus signings and now he's having a go at the CEO, DOF and the PR dept. How many other managers have you seen attack numerous aspects of their club so publicly?
Jose Mourinho.
Mourinho has never had a go at Perez, he's slated the media and his players but never the hierarchy and especially the owner
Did Mancini have a go at the owner? If so, I missed that part.

Mourinho has had a DoF fired by going directly against him using Madrid's title win over Barcelona. He attacks everyone. I say this as a fan of the man.
 
Shame this is being dragged out like this. Would really prefer the club to just make it official, and then negotiate the details in their own time.

It's hard to know what to make of what's happened in the last few days. I'm obviously glad he's going, I'd be a hypocrite to say otherwise. I'm disappointed that it's unfolding like this. If it's true that nobody (Khaldoun, Ferran etc) had given Mancini a clue that his job was in danger in the last couple of months, particularly in light of all the speculation, then thats unfortunate. However Mancini's a clever man who's been around the block enough time to know this is football.
 
"Breaking News"

Roberto Mancini is MCFC manager and has brought success to the club for the first time in 35 years. The crowd at the last home game of the season showed their support of the manager by singing his name throughout the match.

CTID
 
pudge said:
Paulmcfc2703 said:
pudge said:
What has he said that's wrong though?

He may be blunt but that doesn't mean he's wrong.
This season he has criticised numerous players publicly, whined constantly about Marwood, pissed and moaned about how the Sheikh wouldn't by all his £30 million plus signings and now he's having a go at the CEO, DOF and the PR dept. How many other managers have you seen attack numerous aspects of their club so publicly?
Players such as Nasri who has been awful all season? Again, it may have been blunt but his criticisms weren't wrong.

Marwood dropped the ball in the transfer window last summer, again, he's not wrong.

The club should have made a statement, no if's, and's or but's. It was incredibly unprofessional of the club to let the manager be undermined and under pressure the eve of our biggest match of the season.

And he's never moaned about the Sheikh to my knowledge.

Yes he may come across as arrogant or blunt, but that doesn't mean he's wrong.

and indeed some of that criticism is probably entirley justified

his hands were tied in the transfer market and we paid the price on the pitch

the rags stole a march on us and it probably won them the league

well done Marwood
 
christen at St Marks said:
Any manager losing the dressing room not the odd player is gone, Slur bacon, Mou anybody, now look at the lack of movement at times from the middle of last season, none worse than Saturday, we will see how they play once the shackles come off, and everyone feels like they have a chance.

Not sure it applies to Mancini. Mancini has never had the dressing room. He does not court the dressing room. Mancini's angle is to make the players do it for themselves not for him. Doing it 'for the manager' is an alien concept. Its one of the reasons why he can improve players (well those he deems worthy and doesn't bomb out) he makes them look at themsleves and if they are the 'right types' improvement will come helped by the fact that Mancini is a very good technical coach.

But the lack of warmth or the personal touch may always be a problem but I doubt he will change that.
 
BillyShears said:
Shame this is being dragged out like this. Would really prefer the club to just make it official, and then negotiate the details in their own time.

It's hard to know what to make of what's happened in the last few days. I'm obviously glad he's going, I'd be a hypocrite to say otherwise. I'm disappointed that it's unfolding like this. If it's true that nobody (Khaldoun, Ferran etc) had given Mancini a clue that his job was in danger in the last couple of months, particularly in light of all the speculation, then thats unfortunate. However Mancini's a clever man who's been around the block enough time to know this is football.
Spot on, Billy. I feel he's lost the players. That's enough for me. The club needed to handle this much more efficiently, though, and hopefully our owner takes this into account with their future reviews.
 
pudge said:
Paulmcfc2703 said:
pudge said:
What has he said that's wrong though?

He may be blunt but that doesn't mean he's wrong.
This season he has criticised numerous players publicly, whined constantly about Marwood, pissed and moaned about how the Sheikh wouldn't by all his £30 million plus signings and now he's having a go at the CEO, DOF and the PR dept. How many other managers have you seen attack numerous aspects of their club so publicly?
Players such as Nasri who has been awful all season? Again, it may have been blunt but his criticisms weren't wrong.

Marwood dropped the ball in the transfer window last summer, again, he's not wrong.

The club should have made a statement, no if's, and's or but's. It was incredibly unprofessional of the club to let the manager be undermined and under pressure the eve of our biggest match of the season.

And he's never moaned about the Sheikh to my knowledge.

Yes he may come across as arrogant or blunt, but that doesn't mean he's wrong.
How is moaning everytime we play shit about not bringing in the players in he wanted not directed at the Sheikh?

Do you think Marwood held all the cards in the summer? Mancini and the Sheikh were willing to pay £35 million for Hazard but Marwood wouldn't let them.
 
Bobbymanc said:
"Breaking News"

Roberto Mancini is MCFC manager and has brought success to the club for the first time in 35 years. The crowd at the last home game of the season showed their support of the manager by singing his name throughout the match.

CTID

Stick that in the appreciation thread.
 
Paulmcfc2703 said:
taconinja said:
MCFC-Scott said:
I like Martin Samuel, but that's a fucking dreadful article. There's a reason there is few British managers in top jobs, they're simply not good enough.

Who's he suggesting we replace Mancini with? Pardew or Clarke? Give me strength.
Actually he does bring up the salient point regarding Martinez and Pellegrini. At least one of them has won a trophy in the past decade.

-- Sun May 12, 2013 7:04 pm --

Paulmcfc2703 said:
This season he has criticised numerous players publicly, whined constantly about Marwood, pissed and moaned about how the Sheikh wouldn't by all his £30 million plus signings and now he's having a go at the CEO, DOF and the PR dept. How many other managers have you seen attack numerous aspects of their club so publicly?
Jose Mourinho.
Mourinho has never had a go at Perez, he's slated the media and his players but never the hierarchy and especially the owner

Jose has attacked the hierarchy at Madrid but not Perez (well not so far anyway). Mancini has always been complimentary to Khaldoon and the Sheikh in public.
 
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