Mancini Breaking News

[lastmanback]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2323509/Manuel-Pellegrini-replacing-Roberto-Mancini--British-manager-MARTIN-SAMUEL.html

Best football writer in the business hits the nail on head again,especially on the second topic regarding the disgusting Financial "Fair" play rules

one of his worst articles, imo

I thought same myself.
Does not sound like his usual stuff.
It's like he picked bits and pieces off here to make up his article
Without doing any background work.

 

[pudge]

This season he has criticised numerous players publicly, whined constantly about Marwood, pissed and moaned about how the Sheikh wouldn't by all his £30 million plus signings and now he's having a go at the CEO, DOF and the PR dept. How many other managers have you seen attack numerous aspects of their club so publicly?

Players such as Nasri who has been awful all season? Again, it may have been blunt but his criticisms weren't wrong.

Marwood dropped the ball in the transfer window last summer, again, he's not wrong.

The club should have made a statement, no if's, and's or but's. It was incredibly unprofessional of the club to let the manager be undermined and under pressure the eve of our biggest match of the season.

And he's never moaned about the Sheikh to my knowledge.

Yes he may come across as arrogant or blunt, but that doesn't mean he's wrong.

How is moaning everytime we play shit about not bringing in the players in he wanted not directed at the Sheikh?

Do you think Marwood held all the cards in the summer? Mancini and the Sheikh were willing to pay £35 million for Hazard but Marwood wouldn't let them.

Exaggerations like this lead to assumptions like yours.

 

[Anonymous]

Breaking:

Tancredi Palmeri has just tweeted that an interview with a famous journalist who is also mancinis closest friend in business has revealed that its NOT Txiki or Soriano who have pushed for his exit but SHEIKH MANSOUR after an unexpected breakdown in relationship.

Can see that having some credibility purely based on Mancini's character. He has constantly pushed for more authority and probably made a play against Ferran & Txiki as he did against Cook and Marwood if I recall. Its the same with characters like Mancini or a Mourinho or Benitez that they can't help pushing against restrictions and agitating for more of this and greater say in matters. And whilst they are winning its fine but stop winning and people start to wonder why they put up with it.

The trouble with the Roberto's and Jose's and Rafa's is they are a first class pain in arse but its this constant drive that also makes them win trophies. Pellegrini everyone says is a lovely guy, a first rate coach and the players will probably love him but he just doesn't come across as having that implacable drive to win and to win all the time. Arguably in all three cases it wears out the players to the extent that every three years or so you are guaranteed for relationships to break down. Even Jose with his knack of getting the players on side the intensity of it all still gets them in the end causing it to fracture.

All three coaches also have this iron clad confidence in themselves that makes reasoning with them impossible. They are always right. Its the world that is wrong and they fight a constant war to shape the world to their view.

Anyway I'll stop rambling...

You missed out the bloke across town... and in all cases you've pretty much defined "winner"...

 

[Paulmcfc2703]

Actually he does bring up the salient point regarding Martinez and Pellegrini. At least one of them has won a trophy in the past decade.

-- Sun May 12, 2013 7:04 pm --


Jose Mourinho.

Mourinho has never had a go at Perez, he's slated the media and his players but never the hierarchy and especially the owner

Did Mancini have a go at the owner? If so, I missed that part.

Mourinho has had a DoF fired by going directly against him using Madrid's title win over Barcelona. He attacks everyone. I say this as a fan of the man.

Yet Mancini's relationship with the Sheikh broke down. He clearly did something other than moan about the lack of spend to piss the Sheikh off

 

[MSP]

Any manager losing the dressing room not the odd player is gone, Slur bacon, Mou anybody, now look at the lack of movement at times from the middle of last season, none worse than Saturday, we will see how they play once the shackles come off, and everyone feels like they have a chance.

Not sure it applies to Mancini. Mancini has never had the dressing room. He does not court the dressing room. Mancini's angle is to make the players do it for themselves not for him. Doing it 'for the manager' is an alien concept. Its one of the reasons why he can improve players (well those he deems worthy and doesn't bomb out) he makes them look at themsleves and if they are the 'right types' improvement will come helped by the fact that Mancini is a very good technical coach.

But the lack of warmth or the personal touch may always be a problem but I doubt he will change that.

That works for year or two, when you exploit it to the last bit, it's a downfall then.

You can play hard games with someone for some time but when one, two or three get enough of that, you're doomed.

 

[Berkovic_blue]

This season he has criticised numerous players publicly, whined constantly about Marwood, pissed and moaned about how the Sheikh wouldn't by all his £30 million plus signings and now he's having a go at the CEO, DOF and the PR dept. How many other managers have you seen attack numerous aspects of their club so publicly?

Jose, Rafa probably others but only two I can think of right now...

Please show me quotes where these 2 moan about their bosses whilst they are still employed there?

Post any quote where Mancini has slagged the owners. Simple answer is you can't

 

[welsh_andy]

Malaga coach Manuel Pellegrini has dismissed reports he has agreed a deal to take over from Roberto Mancini at Manchester City. Pellegrini said: "I have not spoken to anyone. Rumours are coming from many sides

the mirror

 

[carlos tevez is a blue]

For what it's worth, here's the way i see it.

Mancini pros:
Taking over a side that was leaking goals under Hughes and moulding the best defence in the country.
Making hart his number 1.
Bringing Merlin to manchester.
Turning yaya from a defensive to offensive midfielder.
Turning VK into the best centre half in the prem.
5 trips to Wembley.
1-6.

Mancini cons:
Fighting publicly with players.
Not getting the best from mario.
Buying big edin when he doesn't fit our style of play.
The last transfer window (with the exception of nasty and possibly Rodwell)
The general underperformance of the team in key games this season (Southampton, Everton and the cup final).
Not beating Ajax in the chumps league.
Failure to bring through any academy players (maybe there just not good enough)

Overall I don't think anyone could deny he has been a great success and I personally wish he stays to take on gollum next season (although our record against him in recent years is woefull). If it was klopp (young manager to build for future) or mourinho ( almost guaranteed trophies in the short term) being mentioned I would understand, but going after a 60 year old with a chequered managerial history is a bit baffling. Also I think the club should show bobby manc a lot more respect, the whole thing has been very badly handled.

They should issue a statement of support or explain there decision to give him the boot.

This has to be the best first ever post. Please post more often.

 

[Paulmcfc2703]

Players such as Nasri who has been awful all season? Again, it may have been blunt but his criticisms weren't wrong.

Marwood dropped the ball in the transfer window last summer, again, he's not wrong.

The club should have made a statement, no if's, and's or but's. It was incredibly unprofessional of the club to let the manager be undermined and under pressure the eve of our biggest match of the season.

And he's never moaned about the Sheikh to my knowledge.

Yes he may come across as arrogant or blunt, but that doesn't mean he's wrong.

How is moaning everytime we play shit about not bringing in the players in he wanted not directed at the Sheikh?

Do you think Marwood held all the cards in the summer? Mancini and the Sheikh were willing to pay £35 million for Hazard but Marwood wouldn't let them.

Exaggerations like this lead to assumptions like yours.

Except the Dortmund game where he stated it was his fault and he knew the problems and would sort them out when has he ever taken responsibility. He moans and says 'Iz Football'

 

[pudge]

Everyone's still feeding off of rumours and here-say.

Why do some rumours hold more merit than others? Because people believe what they want.

This thread will go round and round in circles until the club actually acts, one way or another.