Mancini fear of failure?

WNRH said:
Mad Mario said:
for me, as a mancini outer, its not about winning everything though. it never has been. ive been a season ticket holder for 14 years now and one or two more seasons wont hurt me. i could go another 35 years without a trophy and id still be here.

its the manner in which we play games that grinds me personally. his tactics seem to be one dimensional, teams have sussed us. possessional football has never worked in the PL and never will do.

who would i have instead? jose, hiddink, sven just off the top of my head.

and as far as 'the merry round continues' wouldnt you rather see some good football, an inspirational manager at a cost of just one or two more seasons? there are many blues who are not enjoying the football at the moment and mancini's way of playing is partly down to that.

i know we need stability, but christ, let us enjoy the football

and yet you are advocating Jose as his replacement. Did you see Mancini's inter after a year he had been there?


tbh...all that shows is mancini is slightly better at understanding the italian game, hardly surprising really..the stats below show mancini's real strengths were all domestic based, league, cup & super cup....and for all that domestic monopoly he never managed to get any form of european glory, as his style just doesn't match up to strong european play


mourinho however did manage to show his strengths in europeam football winning a treble for the first time in italian history


Italy Roberto Mancini 2004–2008
3 League Titles
2 Domestic Cups
2 Italian Super Cup
0 CL
0 Europa
0 World Club Cup
7 Total Honours


Portugal José Mourinho 2008–2010
2 League Titles
1 Domestic Cup
1 Italian Super Cup
1 CL
0 Europa
0 World Club Cup
5 Total Honours


mancini - 7 honours in 4 years - all domestic

mourinho - 5 honours in 2 years - incl first treble (CL)
 
Didsbury Dave said:
WNRH said:
It was stability with Mancini and Mancini building a stable, successful squad that allowed Mourinho to come in, buy a few players and win the lot.
I'll ask Middlesbrough as well about stability and i know the answer will be they still wish they had Steve McClaren and were a premier league club.
Oh right, so it was Saint Bob who should take the credit for the European Cup at Inter then. That nasty Jose came in and grabbed his glory.
If you ignore the playground context this is correct, let's hope for the Cabal the learning experience is a changing experience.
 
Didsbury Dave said:
WNRH said:
It was stability with Mancini and Mancini building a stable, successful squad that allowed Mourinho to come in, buy a few players and win the lot.

I'll ask Middlesbrough as well about stability and i know the answer will be they still wish they had Steve McClaren and were a premier league club.

Oh right, so it was Saint Bob who should take the credit for the European Cup at Inter then. That nasty Jose came in and grabbed his glory.

Yes of course that is excatly what i am saying.........
 
shadygiz said:
WNRH said:
and yet you are advocating Jose as his replacement. Did you see Mancini's inter after a year he had been there?


tbh...all that shows is mancini is slightly better at understanding the italian game, hardly surprising really..the stats below show mancini's real strengths were all domestic based, league, cup & super cup....and for all that domestic monopoly he never managed to get any form of european glory, as his style just doesn't match up to strong european play


mourinho however did manage to show his strengths in europeam football winning a treble for the first time in italian history


Italy Roberto Mancini 2004–2008
3 League Titles
2 Domestic Cups
2 Italian Super Cup
0 CL
0 Europa
0 World Club Cup
7 Total Honours


Portugal José Mourinho 2008–2010
2 League Titles
1 Domestic Cup
1 Italian Super Cup
1 CL
0 Europa
0 World Club Cup
5 Total Honours


mancini - 7 honours in 4 years - all domestic

mourinho - 5 honours in 2 years - incl first treble (CL)


yes..

and benitez italian supercup and world club cup in just 5 months ..... both domestic and world honours ...... so benitez is better than both mancini and mourinho..
 
I nearly pissed my pants when i read someone wants Sven in charge!!!

Mourinho might be the better manager but he aint coming, end of story.

Mancini might just prove to be the better manager if he is given time.

We have injuries to our major players. Its a new team. Mancini has been here 2 minutes and you all want shut. Crazy!!
 
phil31 said:
I nearly pissed my pants when i read someone wants Sven in charge!!!

Mourinho might be the better manager but he aint coming, end of story.

Mancini might just prove to be the better manager if he is given time.

We have injuries to our major players. Its a new team. Mancini has been here 2 minutes and you all want shut. Crazy!!

2 mins or 15 months? have we seen progression on the pitch? no.
 
shadygiz said:
WNRH said:
and yet you are advocating Jose as his replacement. Did you see Mancini's inter after a year he had been there?


tbh...all that shows is mancini is slightly better at understanding the italian game, hardly surprising really..the stats below show mancini's real strengths were all domestic based, league, cup & super cup....and for all that domestic monopoly he never managed to get any form of european glory, as his style just doesn't match up to strong european play


mourinho however did manage to show his strengths in europeam football winning a treble for the first time in italian history


Italy Roberto Mancini 2004–2008
3 League Titles
2 Domestic Cups
2 Italian Super Cup
0 CL
0 Europa
0 World Club Cup
7 Total Honours


Portugal José Mourinho 2008–2010
2 League Titles
1 Domestic Cup
1 Italian Super Cup
1 CL
0 Europa
0 World Club Cup
5 Total Honours


mancini - 7 honours in 4 years - all domestic

mourinho - 5 honours in 2 years - incl first treble (CL)

if that is the case then why are people moaning, if he lacks success on the european stage but does well domesticly then when are in for a good couple of years domestically and if it gets to the stage where their is continued european failure then yes maybe it would be time to look to others to come in and win that for us, but then again Ferguson is regarded as the greatest manager of all time and he has 2 european cups in 26 years, that's one every 13 years, i think if Mancini was here that long that we would get one european cup. He was a young manager at Inter and he no doubt made mistakes in europe with them but he's an intelligent man and i have no doubts he has learnt from them.

There is no doubt that Mourinho is a good manager at what he does but he does not fit in with what we are building and aiming for.
 
Mad Mario said:
phil31 said:
I nearly pissed my pants when i read someone wants Sven in charge!!!

Mourinho might be the better manager but he aint coming, end of story.

Mancini might just prove to be the better manager if he is given time.

We have injuries to our major players. Its a new team. Mancini has been here 2 minutes and you all want shut. Crazy!!

2 mins or 15 months? have we seen progression on the pitch? no.


it seem to me its just you the one who havent seen progression on the pitch , maybe becouse you keep your eyes on your agenda ? :=)
 
Mad Mario said:
phil31 said:
I nearly pissed my pants when i read someone wants Sven in charge!!!

Mourinho might be the better manager but he aint coming, end of story.

Mancini might just prove to be the better manager if he is given time.

We have injuries to our major players. Its a new team. Mancini has been here 2 minutes and you all want shut. Crazy!!

2 mins or 15 months? have we seen progression on the pitch? no.

Except we have, only a fool or a serious hatred of Mancini would tell you otherwise. Which one are you?
 
Mad Mario said:
allan harper said:
You could probably ask arsenal they haven't won anything for 5-6 years.

so what? why are city fans arsed about trophys now?

give me an arsenal season ticket over birmingham
Me to, although would you be happy for city to not win anything for 6 years but always qualify champions league and get to a few finals. Wenger is probably got the job for life but it depends on how you measure success
 

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