Mancini Has Failed

Mark Hughes left at the end of December. So, whilst we're talking about history shall we talk about the Great Depression or maybe the Battle of Waterloo. Roberto Mancini is our present manager, remember. As a MCFC supporter, support him and MCFC.

If he's sacked, it's because the owners are very business-minded and have clear objectives and want substantial results. Fuck all we can do!<br /><br />-- Thu May 06, 2010 3:02 pm --<br /><br />1. Finish 4th
2. Hit 70 point mark

who set these goals? was it mancini or the owners?
honest question, not sarcastic
 
Balti said:
Targets are just that, targets.

Athletes set themselves targets of new PB's to improve and sometimes they hit them sometimes they don't.

Do they give up when they just miss out? Not if they can see that the trend is improving and they know they are going to get there then they keep going in the knowledge that they will hit the target.

Sacking the manager has been one of our fundamental weaknesses for many many years.

I'd have stuck with Hughes personally (and Sven and others lost in the mist of time) but Mancini has the job now and I am happy that we stick with him as the Special One will not now be coming.
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can only agree with this, its spot on.
 
Killafleez said:
Mark Hughes left at the end of December. So, whilst we're talking about history shall we talk about the Great Depression or maybe the Battle of Waterloo. Roberto Mancini is our present manager, remember. As a MCFC supporter, support him and MCFC.

If he's sacked, it's because the owners are very business-minded and have clear objectives and want substantial results. Fuck all we can do!

-- Thu May 06, 2010 3:02 pm --

1. Finish 4th
2. Hit 70 point mark

who set these goals? was it mancini or the owners?
honest question, not sarcastic
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The club claimed that they sacked Hughes because his trajectory was to fall short of 70 points, after the only previously stated public target was 6th. I believe that if Hughes's previously achieved points per game ratio had been maintained he would have finished on 65. This doesn't take into account that Robinho had been injured, Tevez was yet to hit top form and the team would naturally have improved as they gelled together. If we finish with a defeat against West Ham, Mancini will finish with 66, hardly a dramatic improvement imo. So Hughes was sacked while on course for his target, and Mancini is retained for failing to achieve his. Very bizarre.
 
de niro said:
Balti said:
Targets are just that, targets.

Athletes set themselves targets of new PB's to improve and sometimes they hit them sometimes they don't.

Do they give up when they just miss out? Not if they can see that the trend is improving and they know they are going to get there then they keep going in the knowledge that they will hit the target.

Sacking the manager has been one of our fundamental weaknesses for many many years.

I'd have stuck with Hughes personally (and Sven and others lost in the mist of time) but Mancini has the job now and I am happy that we stick with him as the Special One will not now be coming.
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can only agree with this, its spot on.
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So you'd stick with Mancini?

Even though he deliberately lost last night to make sure he kept the manager's job?

You truly are a very trusting person...
 
Dubai Blue said:
You'd seriously be happy with O'Neil or Moyes?

Good grief.
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+1<br /><br />-- Thu May 06, 2010 4:56 pm --<br /><br />
JULES said:
Pigeonho said:
Has he? What do you suggest we do then, sack him? Oneill and Moyes?!! Gonna put this one down to you being pissed off and hopefully you'll think different after a cold shower.

1 point off the stated target of 70
In the top 6.

Success. Progression.
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aha! sense
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Ahh Bisto :)
 
I suppose this comes down to the powers that be and not mancini, ok he's made mistakes but there has been many mitigating circumstances he's had to deal with. Player upheavel no prem experience, players signed to play a certain way which is different o bobby's style. All in all he's done quite well but purely on targets yes he failed by 1 point.

The crew who fired Hughes will be feeling the heat prob more than bobby afterall it was their decision to sack hughes to get a man in they thought would get top 4, it didn't work, i'm sure the media will have a field day in that respect.
 
Those of us who wanted numpty hughes out had more reason than he was ex rag.............he was buying sh*te players at silly prices, while getting rid of anyone who could see what was coming because he was a clueless fool.

Mancini knew straight away we needed a midfield playmaker, an tried to sign one of the three he went after, foiled by the work permit wallahs at the last min.
He was left with playing a kid for a semi final because numpty had been in such a hurry to get rid of Dunne but made no allowance for players injury, same with Elano, and scrabbleing about for a keeper because there was no recall on Harts loan contract

Of the sqaud left by numpty after spending over two hundred million quid, just how many are above average?, or have long term injury problems ?,

Mancini has done a fantasic job with a very limited sqaud, his tactics have had to reflect we have no midfield, and have been forced to play up the sides on the break, for next season he will bring in the right type of player in key area`s...........something else numpty was incapable of seeing or doing.
 
The target was top four, so yes, he has failed. But he hasn't failed miserably, he's failed by a very small margin and under very tough circumstances.

If you set yourself a tough target with a very short space of time to achieve it and you just happen to miss out, do you give up and sack it off or do you persist and come back stronger?

Mancini has proved himself to be very capable and has done a good job on the whole. Not great, but he's certainly proved himself to be capable and is a proven winner. Let's see who we bring in over the summer and what Mancini can achieve when given a bit of time to get things right
 
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