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Mancini Has Failed
- Thread starter hgblue
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Bonol said:I dont care who we get in. We have to remove this clown before he does anymore damage. 4th was lost the day we sacked Hughes, how stupid was that !.
first time i have laughed all day
Killafleez
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Personally I'd prefer Mancini, considering Moyes (everton), O'neil (villa) and Hodgson (fulham) are likely to finish below us. Wenger would just add to the Arse flops; Toure the clumsy bastard and Ade the lazy bastard.
Mancini hasn't failed... well not miserably anyway. I'd be more upset if we hadn't played well last night. So apart from Bridge and Ade, I thought we played well with with who we had at our disposal. There are no other players apart from the inconsistent SWP who we can bring off the bench to make an immediate impact.
Hughes is as much to blame, and lets no forget that this is Hughes' team not Mancini's.
At least he looked like he cared and wasn't sporting an umbrella
Mancini hasn't failed... well not miserably anyway. I'd be more upset if we hadn't played well last night. So apart from Bridge and Ade, I thought we played well with with who we had at our disposal. There are no other players apart from the inconsistent SWP who we can bring off the bench to make an immediate impact.
Hughes is as much to blame, and lets no forget that this is Hughes' team not Mancini's.
At least he looked like he cared and wasn't sporting an umbrella
Matty
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The original statement was a simple one - Mancini has Failed.
Lets look at that, in it's simplest terms. Mancini was set two targets:-
1 - Finish in the Top 4
2 - Continue with "The trajectory" and hit the 70 point mark.
Now failure is a black and white area, getting close isn't good enough, you either achieve targets or you don't. It's entirely feasible we'll beat West Ham on Sunday and finish in 5th place, on 69 points. Both of these are very, VERY close to the targets set, however neither actually MEET the targets set. So, in short, the original statement was 100% accurate, Mancini has failed, on both counts. What the club does about it, and where people ultimately say the blame lies, are interesting, yet irrelevant, points. Mancini HAS failed, to argue otherwise is to simply ignore the facts.
Lets look at that, in it's simplest terms. Mancini was set two targets:-
1 - Finish in the Top 4
2 - Continue with "The trajectory" and hit the 70 point mark.
Now failure is a black and white area, getting close isn't good enough, you either achieve targets or you don't. It's entirely feasible we'll beat West Ham on Sunday and finish in 5th place, on 69 points. Both of these are very, VERY close to the targets set, however neither actually MEET the targets set. So, in short, the original statement was 100% accurate, Mancini has failed, on both counts. What the club does about it, and where people ultimately say the blame lies, are interesting, yet irrelevant, points. Mancini HAS failed, to argue otherwise is to simply ignore the facts.
PaulPowerShower
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Bonol said:first time i have laughed all day
You wont be laughing if the clown is trusted with any transfer booty.
Viera on a free - the ONLY midfielder with a forward pass
Johnson - One of the best young players i have seen in while
Done alright so far.....and thats without money
this is actually a very good post. i am pro mancini but that is accurate. what i will say is that is it a good idea to get rid of another manager? and also if mancini was in charge all season, according to the stats he would have got well over 70 points. the question is, was mancini given a reasonable target? and would hughes have made that 70 points?Matty said:The original statement was a simple one - Mancini has Failed.
Lets look at that, in it's simplest terms. Mancini was set two targets:-
1 - Finish in the Top 4
2 - Continue with "The trajectory" and hit the 70 point mark.
Now failure is a black and white area, getting close isn't good enough, you either achieve targets or you don't. It's entirely feasible we'll beat West Ham on Sunday and finish in 5th place, on 69 points. Both of these are very, VERY close to the targets set, however neither actually MEET the targets set. So, in short, the original statement was 100% accurate, Mancini has failed, on both counts. What the club does about it, and where people ultimately say the blame lies, are interesting, yet irrelevant, points. Mancini HAS failed, to argue otherwise is to simply ignore the facts.
Viera on a free - the ONLY midfielder with a forward pass
Johnson - One of the best young players i have seen in while
Done alright so far.....and thats without money
Viera The future, yeah, great signing, if he's that fucking good why are we not 4th.
Johnson had fuck all to do with Mancini, he wouldn't no who middlesboro were let alone who the fucking players were.
Twitcher turned spurs around in 1 season. Hughes would of got 4th if them stupid cunts up top had held there nerve. No Mancini has had his fucking chance. Last night RSC on Bellamy off, like where are the crosses coming from, deeeerrrrrrrr, he a fucking imposter.
Flixton blue
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davymcfc said:this is actually a very good post. i am pro mancini but that is accurate. what i will say is that is it a good idea to get rid of another manager? and also if mancini was in charge all season, according to the stats he would have got well over 70 points. the question is, was mancini given a reasonable target? and would hughes have made that 70 points?Matty said:The original statement was a simple one - Mancini has Failed.
Lets look at that, in it's simplest terms. Mancini was set two targets:-
1 - Finish in the Top 4
2 - Continue with "The trajectory" and hit the 70 point mark.
Now failure is a black and white area, getting close isn't good enough, you either achieve targets or you don't. It's entirely feasible we'll beat West Ham on Sunday and finish in 5th place, on 69 points. Both of these are very, VERY close to the targets set, however neither actually MEET the targets set. So, in short, the original statement was 100% accurate, Mancini has failed, on both counts. What the club does about it, and where people ultimately say the blame lies, are interesting, yet irrelevant, points. Mancini HAS failed, to argue otherwise is to simply ignore the facts.
Matty's post is 100% correct. Everyone, including Mancini knew what the goal was when he took over, hit 4th spot and finish with 70 points. He has failed on both counts. To argue otherwise is just splitting hairs.
However, he has failed this season but next season is an entirely different matter. Can't see many better managers would want to come here and we must put a stop to the managerial merry-go-round. It has been the ruin of this club.
Targets are just that, targets.
Athletes set themselves targets of new PB's to improve and sometimes they hit them sometimes they don't.
Do they give up when they just miss out? Not if they can see that the trend is improving and they know they are going to get there then they keep going in the knowledge that they will hit the target.
Sacking the manager has been one of our fundamental weaknesses for many many years.
I'd have stuck with Hughes personally (and Sven and others lost in the mist of time) but Mancini has the job now and I am happy that we stick with him as the Special One will not now be coming.
Athletes set themselves targets of new PB's to improve and sometimes they hit them sometimes they don't.
Do they give up when they just miss out? Not if they can see that the trend is improving and they know they are going to get there then they keep going in the knowledge that they will hit the target.
Sacking the manager has been one of our fundamental weaknesses for many many years.
I'd have stuck with Hughes personally (and Sven and others lost in the mist of time) but Mancini has the job now and I am happy that we stick with him as the Special One will not now be coming.