The guy was given a CLEAR target. Champions League football and/or 70 points. He has failed. In the process he has served up some of the most mind numbingly dull football I've ever seen City produce. Now mind numbingly dull football would have been acceptable if he'd achieved his targets, but to serve up this shite and fail is a double whammy for me. For those banging on about what a great job he's done, bear in mind that if we lose at West Ham we will finish on 66 points. Hughes was on target for 65. This without taking into account the fact that the team would naturally improve given more time together......
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Mancini Has Failed
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hgblue said:The guy was given a CLEAR target. Champions League football and/or 70 points. He has failed. In the process he has served up some of the most mind numbingly dull football I've ever seen City produce. Now mind numbingly dull football would have been acceptable if he'd achieved his targets, but to serve up this shite and fail is a double whammy for me. For those banging on about what a great job he's done, bear in mind that if we lose at West Ham we will finish on 66 points. Hughes was on target for 65. This without taking into account the fact that the team would naturally improve given more time together......
All ancient history already.
Yes, Mancini has failed. Yes, some of the football was turgid.
However, he stays, and gets to build his own team this summer. I truly hope that he reaches whatever targets are set for him next season, because frankly, if we buy practically another team this summer, I'd hate to think the exercise will be repeated again next summer because there's another manager coming in.
Wheelsy
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So when we were scoring 3, 4, 5, 6 goals a game against half of the Premiership, Roberto was being overly cautious?
Fuck, if only he had of taken his foot off the brake.
Fuck, if only he had of taken his foot off the brake.
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de niro said:nice man, good manager, just not right for us.
add then that we are a laughing stock thoughout football due to his over cautious approach and i think we need a change.
i think he missed 4th on purpose, 4th would have meant jose coming in and the only way to safeguard his job was to finish 5th.
I know your a respected poster on here, but that is the most fucking ridiculous thing I have ever heard De Niro.
Wheelsy said:So when we were scoring 3, 4, 5, 6 goals a game against half of the Premiership, Roberto was being overly cautious?
Fuck, if only he had of taken his foot off the brake.
Take it you missed the game last night? Liverpool at home? United at home? Arsenal away? Everton at home? Everton away? I'd have settled for 3, 4, 5, 6 shots on target to be honest.
wrongun73
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de niro said:nice man, good manager, just not right for us.
add then that we are a laughing stock thoughout football due to his over cautious approach and i think we need a change.
i think he missed 4th on purpose, 4th would have meant jose coming in and the only way to safeguard his job was to finish 5th.
unbelievable!
jose was never coming whether 4th, 5th or fucking 1st!...if your'e not having a wind and really believe what you've posted why do you bother shelling out X amount of pounds a year to watch. if i thought like that i wouldn't bother.
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hgblue said:To achieve his publicly stated target of Champions League. For those who think this was an overly demanding target, he has also failed to achieve his publicly stated points target of 70. If we lose to West Ham he will just about hit Hughes's original target of 6th. I agree with those who said sacking Mancini (or failing to activate the option of 3 more years) if he had achieved 4th, would have been bad for the image of the club, so it follows to me that his removal for not achieving his targets would present no such problems. I know some of you like him, fair enough. To my mind (notable victory at Chelsea and decent win against Villa apart) he failed against every top side he played. 1-0 at home to United, 2-0 at home to Everton, 1-0 at home to Spurs, 0-0 at home to Liverpool, 0-0 at Arsenal, 2-0 at Everton. Okay, all teams lose games, but these games all have one thing in common, no more than two shots on goal in each of them. Not good enough. So 'who comes in then?' I hear you cry. Mancini fans gleefully tell us Mourinho is Madrid bound. I think that's wishful thinking, and we should move heaven and earth to bring him here. What about potential targets closer to home? Wenger ready for a fresh challenge yet? What about Roy Hodgson? O'neill? Moyes? Not my problem really, but there's plenty out there ready, willing and able to take this club forward. I know I'll be accused of being part of a 'cabal' or of some sort of kneejerk reaction to last night. Neither accusation is true. I've been broadly supportive of Mancini while he was on target for Fourth, and I've suffered enough disappointments over the years to have already put last nights in the box marked 'Typical City'. Seen plenty of stuff supportive of Mancini, and just though a rival perspective deserved an airing.
Fair comment, but you forget you are judging Mancini on virtually all Mark Hughes's team, he has not had chance to put hardly any of his input into things.......Hardly fair (imho), and even if we did sack him, who's the alternative??
Wheelsy
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So we're not allowed to play badly or lose to teams anymore?hgblue said:Wheelsy said:So when we were scoring 3, 4, 5, 6 goals a game against half of the Premiership, Roberto was being overly cautious?
Fuck, if only he had of taken his foot off the brake.
Take it you missed the game last night? Liverpool at home? United at home? Arsenal away? Everton at home? Everton away? I'd have settled for 3, 4, 5, 6 shots on target to be honest.
Someone's maths might be better than mine, but we scored two or more goals in 13 of 25 games. So it's not exactly been a goal drought. But even if it has, was suddenly the 3-4 at Vermin Towers a better result than the 0-1 at home?
And I don't think we've played more than two games in this period with our first choice back four.
wrongun73
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hgblue said:Wheelsy said:So when we were scoring 3, 4, 5, 6 goals a game against half of the Premiership, Roberto was being overly cautious?
Fuck, if only he had of taken his foot off the brake.
Take it you missed the game last night? Liverpool at home? United at home? Arsenal away? Everton at home? Everton away? I'd have settled for 3, 4, 5, 6 shots on target to be honest.
that is because mr. hughes bought an overpriced, below average midfield.
all the games you talk about we were overrun in midfield meaning we couldn't get the ball up to the front 2 enough to create anything. this is not mancini's fault and come the summer you'll see the difference in mancini's signings compared to hughes'.
wrongun73 said:hgblue said:Take it you missed the game last night? Liverpool at home? United at home? Arsenal away? Everton at home? Everton away? I'd have settled for 3, 4, 5, 6 shots on target to be honest.
that is because mr. hughes bought an overpriced, below average midfield.
all the games you talk about we were overrun in midfield meaning we couldn't get the ball up to the front 2 enough to create anything. this is not mancini's fault and come the summer you'll see the difference in mancini's signings compared to hughes'.
Nothing to do with Mancini playing three defensive midfielders at home to Liverpool, or dropping Adebayor for the game at Arsenal? I could go on, but my take is that Mancini so far as shown himself to be overly negative imo. This may work in Italy, but I don't think you win things here playing that way.