Mancini out (Merged)

[rickmcfc]

Just don't get the Mancini outers.......why? No consistency = changing fucking managers all the time.

This. Back to square 1 yet again.

 

[BlueCityfan]

True about Ancelotti this season but last season (before Abramovich starting sticking his oar in) he won the double. Also, after tonight he is almost certainly gone from Chelsea.

Yes please, Jose or Carlo would do me.

Ps
I still think we may get capello.

Capello is too old and will retire after Euro 2012.

Would love Carlo...what would Mancini think if his Italian friend replaced him? :D

Jose would be the best but he said he will be 3 more years at Madrid.

 

[Tricky Dickys Right Foot Shot]

How do you get a man who is happy where he is and who the club don't want to sack (if he loses all four El Classicos coming up, the Madrid trigger finger brigade may change their mind though), factoring in they are second to us on the rich list and are the biggest club in the world? This is one deal that even Mansour's millions can't pull off if there is no intent from Mourinho to come here and force his way out of Real.

I take it you dont follow Spanish football then? Mourinho isnt liked by any of the heirachy at Madrid and they both want different things. He has learnt that he wont get his own way at Madrid and i would not be surprised if hes out of there come the end of the season.

The prime example is in the january transfer window. He wanted Adebayor and the board wanted Llorente. Yes they got Ade on loan but Mourinho wanted him on permanent basis but the board refused and in the summer they will go all out for Llorente despite Mourinho not wanting him.

At City Mourinho would be allowed to the run the club the way he wants and that is how it should be run. The people who own the club should only worry about coughing up the funds to keep the club running and improving it and then its the managers job to provide victories and trophies. At Madrid he doesnt get that and he isnt happy.

Mancini will not change the way he wants to play and he is acting like a spoilt child. The players hes brought in arent good enough and dont give me this bullshit about giving them time because the game is the same all around the world. Yes the weathers different and the language but football is played with your feet and not with your mouth. The sooner hes gone the better, hes had time and hes failed so time to move on. If we win on saturday that wont change my opinion on the man and if we get champs league football it still wont change. For £250m plus all the talent thats already here getting 3rd or 4th isnt good enough. We should be challenging for the title but he doesnt want to.

So because we spend a lot we should be winning things?

Just face it you hate Mancini and regardless to what he achieves at the club wouldn't matter you'd still want him out. Money spent aside what right do we have to demand a managers head because he can't win us the league title? Tottenham beat us to a top 4 finish last season but for how long have tottenham been spending money over the past 10 years? They have been building a team for a lot longer then we have, we've had about 3 different teams for about 4 seasons now and even though that might mean fuck all to half the people on here well I have some bad news, FOOTBALL IS NOT LIKE FOOTBALL MANAGER!! It doesn't matter how much money you spend building a team but how long you spend building it.

 

[Didsbury Dave]

I take it you dont follow Spanish football then? Mourinho isnt liked by any of the heirachy at Madrid and they both want different things. He has learnt that he wont get his own way at Madrid and i would not be surprised if hes out of there come the end of the season.

The prime example is in the january transfer window. He wanted Adebayor and the board wanted Llorente. Yes they got Ade on loan but Mourinho wanted him on permanent basis but the board refused and in the summer they will go all out for Llorente despite Mourinho not wanting him.

At City Mourinho would be allowed to the run the club the way he wants and that is how it should be run. The people who own the club should only worry about coughing up the funds to keep the club running and improving it and then its the managers job to provide victories and trophies. At Madrid he doesnt get that and he isnt happy.

Mancini will not change the way he wants to play and he is acting like a spoilt child. The players hes brought in arent good enough and dont give me this bullshit about giving them time because the game is the same all around the world. Yes the weathers different and the language but football is played with your feet and not with your mouth. The sooner hes gone the better, hes had time and hes failed so time to move on. If we win on saturday that wont change my opinion on the man and if we get champs league football it still wont change. For £250m plus all the talent thats already here getting 3rd or 4th isnt good enough. We should be challenging for the title but he doesnt want to.

So because we spend a lot we should be winning things?

Just face it you hate Mancini and regardless to what he achieves at the club wouldn't matter you'd still want him out. Money spent aside what right do we have to demand a managers head because he can't win us the league title? Tottenham beat us to a top 4 finish last season but for how long have tottenham been spending money over the past 10 years? They have been building a team for a lot longer then we have, we've had about 3 different teams for about 4 seasons now and even though that might mean fuck all to half the people on here well I have some bad news, FOOTBALL IS NOT LIKE FOOTBALL MANAGER!! It doesn't matter how much money you spend building a team but how long you spend building it.

Those two posts sum things up beautifully. One articulately and accurately sums up the reason why Mancini is on extremely thin ice. One sums up the absolute delusion of some football fans.

 

[Dyed Petya]

I take it you dont follow Spanish football then?

I follow it closely and the last reports I read said the Madrid brass had given Mourinho more arm room and that he's more content now. Those quotes don't suggest unhappiness do they?

If he wants out, now is the time to begin maneuvering his way out but his quotes are to the contrary and make him sound completely happy with his job. I mean why would he practically devote his near future (contract length) to the club so close to the end of the season?

Speaking of which, Bild in Germany is saying Real have discovered a 6m buyout clause in Sahin's contract (ridiculously cheap for an amazing young player) and that Real are signing him - a definite Mourinho signing (like Ozil and Khedira) if true and for when? Next season.

Only way I see him leaving personally is if the famous Madrid trigger finger pushes the trapdoor button again (ie, disaster in the upcoming El Classico series), which is always a possibility but even Perez has to see toppling Barcelona is going to be a long and difficult process, if it can be done at all, and there's no one better than Mourinho to have a go. And if they sack Mourinho, who then?

Thing about Real is that it's a club that's incredibly political, and they don't usually give managers the autonomy that Jose wants. They went for him nevetheless because Perez - rightly in my view - thought that they needed to do something different from their usual to overhaul Barca.

I think Perez wants him to stay and I suspect that Mourinho himself would ideally like to stay until he has more tangible achievements behind him there than he's likely to have at the end of this season. However, he has powerful enemies there, and it's not impossible that they'll manage to assert themselves - especially if he loses to Barca in the CL semi final (it seems a cert that he'll lose La Liga to them as well).

Mourinho does apparently have a release clause but it's in the Eur 50 million range, and with FFPR I think we can rule out City agreeing to meet that to give him a decision to make. He'll go only if results between now and the end of the season plus the politics leave things looking dodgy for him at Real. Then you'd probably see him negotiate a departure on much more favourable terms.

My belief is that, this summer, we'd be his most likely destination were he to leave Madrid. However, I think it's as likely as not that he'll stay there.

 

[bennyblue]

Id like to come on here and defend mancini`s honour and integrity and style of play


But i cant

 

[Bluemoon115]

Just don't get the Mancini outers.......why? No consistency = changing fucking managers all the time.

You posted a list of managers during Fergie's time earlier on in the thread:
Jimmy Frizzell
Mel Machin
Howard Kendall
Peter Reid
Brian Horton
Alan Ball
Steve Coppell
Frank Clarke
Joe Royle
Kevin Keegan
Stuart Pearce
Sven Goran Eriksson
Mark Hughes

And you said change wasn't the answer. I can think of maybe two on that list who the club probably shouldn't have gotten rid of. The rest of them had to go, as they were poor appointments.

Change is only a bad thing if the current system works.

 

[christened at st marks]

Just don't get the Mancini outers.......why? No consistency = changing fucking managers all the time.

I just don't get how inners can watch
2 defensive midfielders,
Constant slow backpassing play,
Players being played out of position,
Driving quality players out of the club
Constantly great players are bought, come here and turn to shite, overnight

I can only think of one game, where the players were motivated and it had fuckall to do with Bobby, Fulham away, this is how they should have been playing most of the time,with a motivating Manager.

 

[pauldominic]

I take it you dont follow Spanish football then? Mourinho isnt liked by any of the heirachy at Madrid and they both want different things. He has learnt that he wont get his own way at Madrid and i would not be surprised if hes out of there come the end of the season.

The prime example is in the january transfer window. He wanted Adebayor and the board wanted Llorente. Yes they got Ade on loan but Mourinho wanted him on permanent basis but the board refused and in the summer they will go all out for Llorente despite Mourinho not wanting him.

At City Mourinho would be allowed to the run the club the way he wants and that is how it should be run. The people who own the club should only worry about coughing up the funds to keep the club running and improving it and then its the managers job to provide victories and trophies. At Madrid he doesnt get that and he isnt happy.

Mancini will not change the way he wants to play and he is acting like a spoilt child. The players hes brought in arent good enough and dont give me this bullshit about giving them time because the game is the same all around the world. Yes the weathers different and the language but football is played with your feet and not with your mouth. The sooner hes gone the better, hes had time and hes failed so time to move on. If we win on saturday that wont change my opinion on the man and if we get champs league football it still wont change. For £250m plus all the talent thats already here getting 3rd or 4th isnt good enough. We should be challenging for the title but he doesnt want to.

So because we spend a lot we should be winning things?

Just face it you hate Mancini and regardless to what he achieves at the club wouldn't matter you'd still want him out. Money spent aside what right do we have to demand a managers head because he can't win us the league title? Tottenham beat us to a top 4 finish last season but for how long have tottenham been spending money over the past 10 years? They have been building a team for a lot longer then we have, we've had about 3 different teams for about 4 seasons now and even though that might mean fuck all to half the people on here well I have some bad news, FOOTBALL IS NOT LIKE FOOTBALL MANAGER!! It doesn't matter how much money you spend building a team but how long you spend building it.

Exactly sir. Well said.

 

[Didsbury Dave]

So because we spend a lot we should be winning things?

Just face it you hate Mancini and regardless to what he achieves at the club wouldn't matter you'd still want him out. Money spent aside what right do we have to demand a managers head because he can't win us the league title? Tottenham beat us to a top 4 finish last season but for how long have tottenham been spending money over the past 10 years? They have been building a team for a lot longer then we have, we've had about 3 different teams for about 4 seasons now and even though that might mean fuck all to half the people on here well I have some bad news, FOOTBALL IS NOT LIKE FOOTBALL MANAGER!! It doesn't matter how much money you spend building a team but how long you spend building it.

Exactly sir. Well said.

Well said? It's the most inarticulate and illogical post on the thread.

It doesn't matter how much money you spend building a team but how long you spend building it

stands as one of the most ill-informed, baseless pieces of toilet I've ever had the misfortune to read.