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I honestly have no idea what your talking about! Find it hard there's only two disgruntled fans posting.
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I honestly have no idea what your talking about! Find it hard there's only two disgruntled fans posting.
Hmm...
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/roberto-mancini-refused-to-enter-the-manchester-city-dressing-room-after-southampton-defeat-8490914.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/foot ... 90914.html</a>
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crb
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crb said:cleavers said:Its not escaped our notice that we have a tag team in operation tonight :)St Helens Blue (Exiled) said:mmmmm I smell something fishy
I honestly have no idea what your talking about! Find it hard there's only two disgruntled fans posting.
Hard to believe* sorry rushed comment. Lost the mind games, idiot comment obviously planted a seed in me. :)
I agree Mancini is the boss and they should listen to him whether they like it or not or else they can do one, don´t want our players emulating Terry and co. They get paid alot and should do their jobs!tonycunninghamsbonce said:It's pure bullshit, bobs. Got his faults but there is only him who's got enough bollocks to sort any disenchanted players out, I say fcuk em, if they don't like bob tough tits do your jobs and win some matches. I love gaz baz but he needs a rest right now, joe needs dropping.
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I blamed the board from the start... and I still do now.
We knew fully well that next door would be stronger as they went out and signed RVP. But instead, we brought in Garcia, Nastastic, Maicon, Rodwell and Sinclair... £50mil of shite that actually managed to do something no one else has ever done, weaken our squad.
Of all the shit we've done in the past, we've one done it again... we did the same with RSC and Bridge.
The only things i've got issues with Mancini is his selection choices. Never understood was why Lescott was dropped, him and Vinnie were solid all season. And whilst Nastastic hasn't done too bad of a job, he's better as a squad player. And the continuous addition of Nasri.
If the club wants to retain the title, you've got to back the manager... it's pretty evident they've not done that this season. So if it's anyones head, Marwood has got to take some responsibility.
I think Mancini's comment said it all:
"When you win a title, you need to improve the team. We did not improve the team. This is a problem."
And I don't think that is necessarily true, but we were neck and neck with United last year and this year they added Van Persie. Did we think it would be the same again?
And of course we need stability at the club, who is there out there? Mourinho? In the long term run he's a disaster. Every club he leaves ends up in a mess. Chelsea fell apart after he had gone and look at the fucking state of Inter Milan now. Get rid of Mancini and the problem gets even worse.
1) To this day we're still stuck with the deadwood Hughes brought in.
2) Players revolt - Some players will want out.
3) New manager will no doubt want a whole new squad, something that is not possible with FFP.
4) From a PR point of view - Another mess to clean up... the media will rip right into us for it.
Mancini has got us into the CL, won us the FA Cup and the Premier League. Next time he needs trust and for the board to do exactly as he says.
We knew fully well that next door would be stronger as they went out and signed RVP. But instead, we brought in Garcia, Nastastic, Maicon, Rodwell and Sinclair... £50mil of shite that actually managed to do something no one else has ever done, weaken our squad.
Of all the shit we've done in the past, we've one done it again... we did the same with RSC and Bridge.
The only things i've got issues with Mancini is his selection choices. Never understood was why Lescott was dropped, him and Vinnie were solid all season. And whilst Nastastic hasn't done too bad of a job, he's better as a squad player. And the continuous addition of Nasri.
If the club wants to retain the title, you've got to back the manager... it's pretty evident they've not done that this season. So if it's anyones head, Marwood has got to take some responsibility.
I think Mancini's comment said it all:
"When you win a title, you need to improve the team. We did not improve the team. This is a problem."
And I don't think that is necessarily true, but we were neck and neck with United last year and this year they added Van Persie. Did we think it would be the same again?
And of course we need stability at the club, who is there out there? Mourinho? In the long term run he's a disaster. Every club he leaves ends up in a mess. Chelsea fell apart after he had gone and look at the fucking state of Inter Milan now. Get rid of Mancini and the problem gets even worse.
1) To this day we're still stuck with the deadwood Hughes brought in.
2) Players revolt - Some players will want out.
3) New manager will no doubt want a whole new squad, something that is not possible with FFP.
4) From a PR point of view - Another mess to clean up... the media will rip right into us for it.
Mancini has got us into the CL, won us the FA Cup and the Premier League. Next time he needs trust and for the board to do exactly as he says.
baildon blue
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A bit more beliveable than the Star.LoveCity said:Hmm...
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/roberto-mancini-refused-to-enter-the-manchester-city-dressing-room-after-southampton-defeat-8490914.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/foot ... 90914.html</a>
cleavers
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Of course you don't.crb said:I honestly have no idea what your talking about! Find it hard there's only two disgruntled fans posting.
TCIB
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Cleavers can see dupe ip's or something.
Whatever it is he has a big cheesy smile, mods having fun with trolls i think ?
Mods get all the fun :<
Whatever it is he has a big cheesy smile, mods having fun with trolls i think ?
Mods get all the fun :<
And dosen´t say anything about the players wanting Viera as interim manager, If it´s true the players should leave, whoever they are but atm it´s just speculation.baildon blue said:A bit more beliveable than the Star.LoveCity said:Hmm...
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/roberto-mancini-refused-to-enter-the-manchester-city-dressing-room-after-southampton-defeat-8490914.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/foot ... 90914.html</a>
I hate this article and all its jabs but half of the reason I hate it is because it's true. :/
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Sam Wallace: Has the Premier League title ever been surrendered so pathetically?
When Gareth Barry scored his tragi-comic own goal he displayed the body language of a zombie
In the long and not always glorious history of football there may have been more disgracefully gutless performances than the one put in by the champions of England at Southampton on Saturday. There may also have been a more bizarre series of utterances than those which came from the mouth of the man who carried the most direct responsibility, the Manchester City manager, Roberto Mancini, but if compelling comparisons are somewhat elusive there is one thing about which we can be certain.
It is that never before can such a miserable example of broken down professionalism, of abandoned self-respect and a total failure to deliver a sliver of value for money (the transfer value of City's starters was approximately £206m, with substitutes James Milner, Aleksandar Kolarov and Maicon representing another £48m), have provoked less in the way of red-blooded outrage.
Mancini, who before the game lamented the possibility that quite soon very rich men may no longer be able to throw infinite amounts of money at the football team of their choice, did say that "big players" should display rather more convincing evidence that they possess "big balls".
But then given that his extremely expensive team had, in the process of an almost formal defeat by a side whose stars Jay Rodriguez and Rickie Lambert came at a combined cost of less than the year's salary of the missing Carlos Tevez, displayed a collective heart so minuscule the great Bill Shankly would surely have likened it to a caraway seed, it hardly seemed an excessive reaction.
We are told that Mancini will survive at least until the summer, by which time his Abu Dhabi employers might have to conclude that if their rival Roman Abramovich had a well-earned reputation for what might be described as brutal whimsicality, their own had come to occupy precisely the other end of the spectrum.
Sheikh Mansour and his cohorts should have known some time ago that their £1billion-plus investment in City was well on the way to becoming a shocking indictment of an idea nursed so lovingly in the upper echelons of the Premier League. They should have known that they were making a monument not to relentless spending and seamless progress but nightmare entrapment by the prospective demands of Financial Fair Play.
Mancini whined that he had been miserably supported in the summer transfer window and that because of this, rather than a painful lack of evidence that he might be able to develop the force and coherence of by far the strongest squad in the country, his defence of the Premier League title and expansion of hopes in the Champions League had been virtually destroyed.
Another truth was much easier to grasp this last weekend. It is that City have become a parody of a club who might be anywhere near taking their place at the heart of European football. Their dismissal from the Champions League was one shocking development. The tolerance of the Mario Balotelli situation was an affront to professional standards. The reinstatement of Tevez after his Munich mutiny was another compromise to make the flesh crawl.
After saying that Tevez would never again wear the City shirt, Mancini soon enough agreed that he might well be a powerful asset in the race for the Premier League finish. That, no doubt, helped to deliver City's first title since the one they landed rather more emphatically with the help of Lee, Bell and Summerbee 44 years earlier. But how much should you pay, in money and basic values, for one championship which in less than a year seems as if it might have happened in another lifetime?
When Gareth Barry scored his tragi-comic own goal at Southampton he displayed the body language of a zombie. It was also a reasonable way of defining the performance of most of his team-mates. It wasn't a defeat. It was a submission. It was a terrible statement about what happens when a team is separated from any sense that it can still achieve its most basic ambitions.
For many, it was almost entirely the fault of players grossly overpaid and seriously under-motivated. Of course they had their huge responsibilities and it wasn't only Mancini impelled to ask what had happened to the command and the wit of men like Yaya Touré and David Silva. Mancini says: "A player who plays like that should stay at home, not even be on the pitch. I don't want to see a player like we saw on Saturday. Usually, we play well and even when we don't play well, we put everything on the pitch. But we didn't even do that."
No, they didn't, demonstrably not, but then isn't it quite a key part of the manager's job to avoid such disaster? Mancini was recently pictured with his hands reaching for Balotelli's throat. There is another study of him linking hands with Tevez. He is, no doubt, an engaging football man with some notable achievements as both a player and a coach, but this doesn't mean so much now when he has to prove that there is really enough money in the world to make a great football team.
Meanwhile, Sir Alex Ferguson tells us that he sharply strengthened his planned team for the winning game against Everton after watching the City debacle. His reward was a 12-point lead – and the latest evidence that his once dangerous rivals surely have to think again.
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Sam Wallace: Has the Premier League title ever been surrendered so pathetically?
When Gareth Barry scored his tragi-comic own goal he displayed the body language of a zombie
In the long and not always glorious history of football there may have been more disgracefully gutless performances than the one put in by the champions of England at Southampton on Saturday. There may also have been a more bizarre series of utterances than those which came from the mouth of the man who carried the most direct responsibility, the Manchester City manager, Roberto Mancini, but if compelling comparisons are somewhat elusive there is one thing about which we can be certain.
It is that never before can such a miserable example of broken down professionalism, of abandoned self-respect and a total failure to deliver a sliver of value for money (the transfer value of City's starters was approximately £206m, with substitutes James Milner, Aleksandar Kolarov and Maicon representing another £48m), have provoked less in the way of red-blooded outrage.
Mancini, who before the game lamented the possibility that quite soon very rich men may no longer be able to throw infinite amounts of money at the football team of their choice, did say that "big players" should display rather more convincing evidence that they possess "big balls".
But then given that his extremely expensive team had, in the process of an almost formal defeat by a side whose stars Jay Rodriguez and Rickie Lambert came at a combined cost of less than the year's salary of the missing Carlos Tevez, displayed a collective heart so minuscule the great Bill Shankly would surely have likened it to a caraway seed, it hardly seemed an excessive reaction.
We are told that Mancini will survive at least until the summer, by which time his Abu Dhabi employers might have to conclude that if their rival Roman Abramovich had a well-earned reputation for what might be described as brutal whimsicality, their own had come to occupy precisely the other end of the spectrum.
Sheikh Mansour and his cohorts should have known some time ago that their £1billion-plus investment in City was well on the way to becoming a shocking indictment of an idea nursed so lovingly in the upper echelons of the Premier League. They should have known that they were making a monument not to relentless spending and seamless progress but nightmare entrapment by the prospective demands of Financial Fair Play.
Mancini whined that he had been miserably supported in the summer transfer window and that because of this, rather than a painful lack of evidence that he might be able to develop the force and coherence of by far the strongest squad in the country, his defence of the Premier League title and expansion of hopes in the Champions League had been virtually destroyed.
Another truth was much easier to grasp this last weekend. It is that City have become a parody of a club who might be anywhere near taking their place at the heart of European football. Their dismissal from the Champions League was one shocking development. The tolerance of the Mario Balotelli situation was an affront to professional standards. The reinstatement of Tevez after his Munich mutiny was another compromise to make the flesh crawl.
After saying that Tevez would never again wear the City shirt, Mancini soon enough agreed that he might well be a powerful asset in the race for the Premier League finish. That, no doubt, helped to deliver City's first title since the one they landed rather more emphatically with the help of Lee, Bell and Summerbee 44 years earlier. But how much should you pay, in money and basic values, for one championship which in less than a year seems as if it might have happened in another lifetime?
When Gareth Barry scored his tragi-comic own goal at Southampton he displayed the body language of a zombie. It was also a reasonable way of defining the performance of most of his team-mates. It wasn't a defeat. It was a submission. It was a terrible statement about what happens when a team is separated from any sense that it can still achieve its most basic ambitions.
For many, it was almost entirely the fault of players grossly overpaid and seriously under-motivated. Of course they had their huge responsibilities and it wasn't only Mancini impelled to ask what had happened to the command and the wit of men like Yaya Touré and David Silva. Mancini says: "A player who plays like that should stay at home, not even be on the pitch. I don't want to see a player like we saw on Saturday. Usually, we play well and even when we don't play well, we put everything on the pitch. But we didn't even do that."
No, they didn't, demonstrably not, but then isn't it quite a key part of the manager's job to avoid such disaster? Mancini was recently pictured with his hands reaching for Balotelli's throat. There is another study of him linking hands with Tevez. He is, no doubt, an engaging football man with some notable achievements as both a player and a coach, but this doesn't mean so much now when he has to prove that there is really enough money in the world to make a great football team.
Meanwhile, Sir Alex Ferguson tells us that he sharply strengthened his planned team for the winning game against Everton after watching the City debacle. His reward was a 12-point lead – and the latest evidence that his once dangerous rivals surely have to think again.
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