Mancini/Pellegrini rumours (10/05/13) (cont)

[gh_mcfc]

Looks like club are responding now.

Seems Bobby may be gone before Reading.

Hope not he deserves our thanks against Norwich regardless.

 

[blueinsa]

Bob breaking news thread guys

 

[OB1]

Looks like club are responding now.

Seems Bobby may be gone before Reading.

What? Where? Who? Details please OB1

Several papers just started reporting it. Ladyboy on Twitter.
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/index.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/index.html</a>

 

[BobKowalski]

For the best if so. Makes no sense to drag it out

 

[stanHayes]

Despite the seeming hatred for Mancini by some on here, and the fact it seems more important for them to be proved right than Mancini to succeed, I'm reaching the point where a change seems the only solution.

Even in the last few hours my views have swung. I'm tired of hearing him moan about last summer's lack of spend, we were the champions and we all know that squad is good enough to win it again. The lack of opportunity for the likes of Suarez and Guidetti in an under performing season is baffling.

I'm tired of the apparent squabbling and unrest. He obviously likes to keep players on the edge, wants tension in the dressing room but this approach can't work over the long term. The players need to buy into something bigger than that and we've seen that this season.

More than anything I'm tired of us only being linked with £30-£40 million pound players who are already stars. None of the above will change if this is the route we continue to go down. What are our scouts doing? Where is the next Falcao/Ronaldo?

If Pellegrini is the man to unite the dressing room, encourage the development of non-elite players and give them a chance then maybe change is good.

Think it was how it all started to boil over the last two day.. if this happened next week no problem plus the way he was undermined and the press stuck the knife in.. On top of which his bosses need to look how they operate... they did the team,manager, club,fans no favours

 

[Maintainin]

Can anyone give me an update on what's going on? Travelling all day back from London and this is the first burst of connection I've had to check.

Keegan 5 term deal
















nah, only joshin

 

[MCFC-Scott]

Here's the story from the Telegraph.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/manchester-city/10052146/Roberto-Mancini-will-be-sacked-by-Manchester-City-this-week.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/footba ... -week.html</a>

 

[cleavers]

There were a lot more rumours from a.lot more sources than just that lunch. It is regrettable that they were spotted but at the time it only caused a ripple in the press. But shit happens. Mancini had accepted our job before Hughes had been sacked. I didn't think that was immoral at the time, even though we had exactly the same hand-wringing from fans then. Mancini lives by the sword and he does by the sword.

City fans carping about the 'way this has been done' is the same carping you get when you dump your girlfriend as a teenager. 'Why did you have to do it by telephone?' 'Why just before my birthday?' It doesn't fucking matter how it was done, that's just a red herring to the real issue.

Mancini's bitching about the board and Marwood, and making disrespectful comments about txiki and soriano, has come back to bite him in the arse.

'I don't answer to them. Only khaldoon' he smirked in the middle of one of his recent 'its not my fault' interviews.

Well it looks like txiki got the last laugh,

Whatever the ins and outs of who met who, and when, and no matter individual opinions on mancini or pellegrini, do you really think that all this happening in the 36 hours before the FA Cup final, our biggest game of the season, has been good business by the club ?

It hasn't, it may not have cost us the cup yesterday, a poor performance did, but was it poor because of the speculation ? It surely didn't help, and it had a negative effect on the fans for sure, when there are thousands chanting "stick your pellegrini up your arse" on the way into a cup final, then something is clearly not right. As fans we struggled to lift the team as a result.

For me the club has had a very poor 48 hours, and even now the silence isn't doing any good.

Further more, you can now bet your life that mancini will take the club for every penny he can get, whereas he might have been willing to trade had it been done well. He will certainly be gone in the next two weeks now, so lets hope that the deal with pellegrini is water tight, because if he now pulls out, we are going to look pretty stupid, rumours of barca sticking their nose in, could yet change things, as if I was a spanish based and had the choice I wouldn't pick Manchester for any money.

I know what your saying, but Pellegrini is from Chilie.

Corrected for you.

 

[@BluePhil8]

Sacked. All over the press. Breaking news.

 

[BlueAnorak]

You know, I feel some of you are losing the plot a little.

People are upset about yesterday. I understand that. We lost a cup final. But the way in which we are looking for people to blame and in particular, rounding on Ferran and Txiki is quite frankly bizarre. Take a step back and a deep breath and think about what the fuck some of you are saying.

I think you need to look at the J. Arthur RANK production that has just unfolded and see how shambolic it truly is. It really is on a par with the very worst that Swales and Lee achieved during the dark days. Cups for cock ups is alive and well.

It is quite clear that the decision was taken some time ago to replace Mancini with Pellegrini. Now, how do you handle this? Do you try to sow up the deal in the background before informing people so as to not distract on the teams performances? Or do you tell the press every step of the way during negotiations? It seems like most of you think it should be the latter. Crazy

You certainly don't behave like Txiki "The Underminer".
There are more than the two options as well. I will direct you to the books "The Prince" and "The Art of War" for a whole range of options. Then there is telling the employee the truth immediately - normally the best call.

What exactly were you expecting after the news reports broke? For Ferran to come out and say actually yes, we are looking for a new manager and Mancini is gone? The day of the Cup final? Really? These guys are professional.

I've seen more professionalism from Swales and Lee in the dark days. It should NEVER have come out in the first place.

They believe there are better managerial options and have gone about securing one of those options, without feeling the need to brief the press.

They should have sorted it out months ago. Hey, they could probably have got Mancini onside. The one thing you don't do is FUCK YOUR TEAMS CHANCES OF WINNING TA TROPHY - The psychophysical impact of the leaks on the team and manager must have been immense.

There is also this view that the hierarchy should have waited until the season was done before negotiating with another manager. As if by doing so was somehow not classy. Firstly, get real - this is how the world works. Secondly, I assume these are the same people who ranted at Marwood for not getting the transfer business concluded earlier enough last season.

It maybe is how the world works but you don't do it in a way that makes your business look like a COMPLETE SET OF AMATEURS.

Yesterday wasn't a great day, but we will move on. Surely after everything Khaldoon has done that has been right he can be afforded a degree of trust. We are a club that is in great hands. Yet the flapping on here has been unbelievable.
What we are witnessing in the press and Twitter today will be long forgotten, much like Hughes was.

I used to think that Khaldoon was the best thing to ever happen to City but he really took his eye of the ball this time. Look back on the time line since February:

Zero public support for the manager. (If you are going to back stab him at least support him till the knife is ready).
Making it clear to many players that they are no longer in the clubs plans (rummours posted on here).
Meeting with Pellegrini in public BEFORE A MAJOR CUP FINAL.
Doing nothing to deny it.
Let's be honest they've made a right Ronald of stabbing the manager in the back. It's pure Cocks for cock ups - straight from the City history books.