Mancini Press Conference

[Lucky13]

He's increasingly becoming like a spoilt fucking child if you ask me. He's the most privileged manager in world football and half the time he acts like he's carrying a poison fucking chalice .

I sometimes think he plays on Abu dhabis, and cooks, lack of football experience.

Nothing wrong in wanting the tools for the job when keeping the job depends on it.

Agreed.

As for the most priviliged manager , I reckon this fella is.

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[cibaman]

I just fear the day might come when Mancini gets pissed off with the board and leaves.

If so, he'd surely struggle to get a comparable job?

What's he going to say "City's Board were unreasonable. They only let me sign Toure, Silva, Balotelli, Dzeko, Aguero, Milner, Boateng, Johnson, Kolarov, Clichy, Savic, Nasri(?) etc"

There are certain pressures that go with managing City, but if he gets pissed off with our Board and leaves, he's unlikely to get much sympathy elsewhere.

 

[Didsbury Dave]

He's increasingly becoming like a spoilt fucking child if you ask me. He's the most privileged manager in world football and half the time he acts like he's carrying a poison fucking chalice .

I sometimes think he plays on Abu dhabis, and cooks, lack of football experience.

In his defence, he will most likely be sacked if he doesn't win the league this year.

What you hear isn't a spoiled manager, he's a desperate manager. This season is probably the most important of his career. It's his second top-flight club after having been sacked at the first. If he wins the league he will likely have all the control he desires and two years worth of breathing room; a loss will mean he's back in Italy looking for a job at a 3rd-6th place club.

Can't argue with that.

But one of the reasons his neck is on the line and the pressure on is that he is such a combatative character, he pisses off and alienates so many people that he has absolutely no slack with Abu dhabi.

 

[another generation]

It's such a crying shame that the negativity and worry has crept in. We ended last season on a real buzz. The players were happy, the fans were happy, the manager was happy - everyone involved with City was happy. Happy and bouncing, with masses of energy. If we'd been able to start the new season without a summer break, we'd have already been streets ahead of the rest. We felt almost invincible, which is quite a new concept for us!

I worried for the result of the Charity Shield when I read Mancini's comments about us being five yards behind the rags, and being one or two signings away from winning the league. If the manager is bothered by something, it will affect the players, no matter what. You've only got to look at Arsenal playing well below par, when their manager is throwing his teddies out, left, right and centre.

I think Mancini can be a great manager for us, but I'm disappointed in his negative comments to the press, because of how it affects everyone else. He may have hoped for other outcomes in the transfer market, but if wishes were horses, beggars would ride. Rise above it. Get things back to a shrug of the shoulders, the odd witty comment, a check of the great quality we already have at City, and just get on with the season!

 

[SWP's back]

He's increasingly becoming like a spoilt fucking child if you ask me. He's the most privileged manager in world football and half the time he acts like he's carrying a poison fucking chalice .

I sometimes think he plays on Abu dhabis, and cooks, lack of football experience.

In his defence, he will most likely be sacked if he doesn't win the league this year.

What you hear isn't a spoiled manager, he's a desperate manager. This season is probably the most important of his career. It's his second top-flight club after having been sacked at the first. If he wins the league he will likely have all the control he desires and two years worth of breathing room; a loss will mean he's back in Italy looking for a job at a 3rd-6th place club.

Can't argue with that.

But one of the reasons his neck is on the line and the pressure on is that he is such a combatative character, he pisses off and alienates so many people that he has absolutely no slack with Abu dhabi.

Some would say that his ruthless streak is why he has been so successful? Time will tell.

 

[Anonymous]

In his defence, he will most likely be sacked if he doesn't win the league this year.

What you hear isn't a spoiled manager, he's a desperate manager. This season is probably the most important of his career. It's his second top-flight club after having been sacked at the first. If he wins the league he will likely have all the control he desires and two years worth of breathing room; a loss will mean he's back in Italy looking for a job at a 3rd-6th place club.

Can't argue with that.

But one of the reasons his neck is on the line and the pressure on is that he is such a combatative character, he pisses off and alienates so many people that he has absolutely no slack with Abu dhabi.

Some would say that his ruthless streak is why he has been so successful? Time will tell.

When Mancini first briefed the press about his problems with Cook etc and the slowness with which transfers were progressing I had some sympathy for him. The comments about wanting control didn't come off that great as he just sounded whiny, but when it came to transfers I felt he had a right to put the pressure on.

However on the opening weekend of the season for him to again go on the attack is neither admirable nor particularly good politicking. His complaints will have been heard loud and clear last month and if AD had wanted to act on them they would have done. Furthermore there is nothing to be gained from isolating himself and his little posse from the decision makers at the club as they need to have a unified front in such an important season.

It's funny, for all the hand wringing earlier in this thread and stupid digs about vultures and agendas and negativity...it's actually Roberto bringing the conflict rather than others making it up.

 

[SWP's back]

Can't argue with that.

But one of the reasons his neck is on the line and the pressure on is that he is such a combatative character, he pisses off and alienates so many people that he has absolutely no slack with Abu dhabi.

Some would say that his ruthless streak is why he has been so successful? Time will tell.

When Mancini first briefed the press about his problems with Cook etc and the slowness with which transfers were progressing I had some sympathy for him. The comments about wanting control didn't come off that great as he just sounded whiny, but when it came to transfers I felt he had a right to put the pressure on.

However on the opening weekend of the season for him to again go on the attack is neither admirable nor particularly good politicking. His complaints will have been heard loud and clear last month and if AD had wanted to act on them they would have done. Furthermore there is nothing to be gained from isolating himself and his little posse from the decision makers at the club as they need to have a unified front in such an important season.

It's funny, for all the hand wringing earlier in this thread and stupid digs about vultures and agendas and negativity...it's actually Roberto bringing the conflict rather than others making it up.

Sorry but I really don't think it's even worthy of "conflict" and I've seen enough digs in this thread (not achieving the sum of the parts, Ferrari driven by old woman etc) to see this as opportunistic anti-Mancini bile from some. I'm not including you in that obviously. But some are making a mountain out of a molehill here.

 

[Mancio]

There will always be conflict when the soldier who goes to the front did know that he was NOT given the weapons that they had promised. indeed, they had agreed to give him.

a good soldier is proud and ready to die cause enemy fire but maybe he can be a little pissed of if he see he risk to die under the friendly fire

mancini is only asking what was concordated.

 

[Mike D]

As much as I hate whingers I feel that Mancini does have a strong case here. In the long term I cannot see how having these 2 clowns interfearing in transfer proceedings is healthy for the club. Ultimatly they have never been managers and do not understand the problems of getting players in early to bed them into the squad.

It has never has and never will sit right with me seeing Marwood at the press conferances signing players. Something has to give at some point and I hope that is Mancini that succeeds and these 2 clowns are shown the door.

 

[SalfordCityBlue]

He never seems satisfied.

Good.

He wants the best for our club, and we're complaining because...?

He should be in charge of transfers in and have a budget to work to. His frustration arrives from not having total control of his own destiny - everyone is agreed the club wants to bring Nasri in, before the start of pre season, then before the Champions League, then before the season starts and it has not happened - if he feels he could have driven it harder and made it happen then of course he is frustrated.

Could he have done that? We'll never know because he has people in his way doing that for him. Badly it seems in Mancini's opinion.

As he said, he is the one who will get sacked if it doesn't work. He told them what he felt he needed to make it work and they haven't delivered (yet).

Seems to be making total sense to me.

 

[The Fat el Hombre]

There's no denying that our squad isn't finished. We need 2 midfielders then we should be ok. With FFP kicking in that' probably all we can expect at the most, but at least if we sign players of the right age, come next season if all goes well we'd only need a centre half to replace lescott (though obviously there will probably be a couple more additions and/or replacements of some sort)

That said, he shouldn't be whingeing too much about not having everything in place for the start of the season. We've got the tools in our second team to do the job against swansea and bolton, so maybe a little patience is required in order to get the best deals and benefit the long term future of the club. It ain't worth paying way over the odds just to get players in for a home game against swansea

 

[gelly]

After spending quarter of a billion, he's still failed to buy a central midfielder capable of winning the Premier league or Champions League.

 

[hgblue]

There will always be conflict when the soldier who goes to the front did know that he was NOT given the weapons that they had promised. indeed, they had agreed to give him.

a good soldier is proud and ready to die cause enemy fire but maybe he can be a little pissed of if he see he risk to die under the friendly fire

mancini is only asking what was concordated.

But Sanchez wanted to go to Barca. Clichy has been brought in. Savic has been brought in. Aguero has been brought in. A back up keeper has been brought in. Mancini has been backed in his stance against Tevez/Adebayor/Bellamy and the club are trying to find suitable clubs for them, which isn't proving easy. Nasri is on the verge of joining and would already be a blue apart from some stalling for time by Wenger and Arsenal trying to take the piss on the fee. Rumours abound of another couple of quality additions before the window closes. Your hero needs to stfu and concentrate on what he can control, preparing the team for a very challenging season ahead.

 

[blueinsa]

There will always be conflict when the soldier who goes to the front did know that he was NOT given the weapons that they had promised. indeed, they had agreed to give him.

a good soldier is proud and ready to die cause enemy fire but maybe he can be a little pissed of if he see he risk to die under the friendly fire

mancini is only asking what was concordated.

But Sanchez wanted to go to Barca. Clichy has been brought in. Savic has been brought in. Aguero has been brought in. A back up keeper has been brought in. Mancini has been backed in his stance against Tevez/Adebayor/Bellamy and the club are trying to find suitable clubs for them, which isn't proving easy. Nasri is on the verge of joining and would already be a blue apart from some stalling for time by Wenger and Arsenal trying to take the piss on the fee. Rumours abound of another couple of quality additions before the window closes. Your hero needs to stfu and concentrate on what he can control, preparing the team for a very challenging season ahead.

"only theez"

 

[MAXXI]

i cant say nothing of Khaldoun and the Owner. i just can say this marriage cant go on and they will have to do a choice sooner better than later.

Like I said, they already have. Mancini doesn't have 100% control yet. He hasn't earned it in the eyes of the owners clearly. Maybe if he wins the title, as he said the other week, they'll change their mind next summer...

I think it would be crazy these days to give any manager 100% control. Do we really want Bob to spend hours a week with his abacus working out how to balance the books to meet FPR? Working out how much he needs to sell Adebayor for and whether to subsidise his wages in order to buy Cerci?

Its too big a job. It reminds me of when Liverpool gave Benitez "control" over their transfer budget. The trouble was he didnt realise until he'd spent it that he also had to pay for any contract upgrades from the same budget.

If Bob had been given 100% control he'd probably have bought Kun for £50m in the first week of the window, completed a straight exchange of Tevez for Eto'o and now be wondering why Hart has requested a transfer and he's no money to pay for Nasri.

how you know so much!!!

 

[johnny crossan]

A season, that's all I ask.

couple of matches would do

 

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[Mancio]

There will always be conflict when the soldier who goes to the front did know that he was NOT given the weapons that they had promised. indeed, they had agreed to give him.

a good soldier is proud and ready to die cause enemy fire but maybe he can be a little pissed of if he see he risk to die under the friendly fire

mancini is only asking what was concordated.

But Sanchez wanted to go to Barca. Clichy has been brought in. Savic has been brought in. Aguero has been brought in. A back up keeper has been brought in. Mancini has been backed in his stance against Tevez/Adebayor/Bellamy and the club are trying to find suitable clubs for them, which isn't proving easy. Nasri is on the verge of joining and would already be a blue apart from some stalling for time by Wenger and Arsenal trying to take the piss on the fee. Rumours abound of another couple of quality additions before the window closes. Your hero needs to stfu and concentrate on what he can control, preparing the team for a very challenging season ahead.

incidentally the man you are calling "my hero" should be YOUR hero in the moment he fight to improve the team you're fancing . and improve the chances to win trophy .

unfortunally you and a few others seem more interested in hoping to see mancini fail more than see City win things

 

[MAXXI]

why is that? boateng and Veiria has gone. and he wants two good players on each posstion.

you to the math.

GK - Hart & Pantilimon
LB - Kolarov & Clichy
RB - Richards & Zaba
CB - Kompany & Lescott & Savic & Kolo & Boyata

DM: De Jong & Barry (& Yaya)
MF: Yaya & Milner

AM: Silva (& Nasri imminent)

W: Johnson & SWP & Weiss

FW: Aguero & Tevez & Dzeko & Balotelli

Then he has willing players he could call on but refuses to like Bellamy and Onuoha who have shown they are at least good enough to be fringe players.

Then he has one of the best reserve/youth setups in the league and players like Guidetti, Nimely, Wabara, Assulin, Suarez, Roman, and Veseli who would be starting for some PL teams and are the sort of prospects that could develop into much more with game time.

I really cannot understand his argument, we have so much depth, the only thing we are starved of is some creativity, which Nasri will fix - and we also have the uber-talented Assulin/Suarez/Roman trio to call on if necessary. I can fully understand the need for Nasri and could possibly understand the need for a ball-playing midfielder like Banega, but is there any sign we're even in for one of those?

he ruled Bellamy out and how many fucking time need to say NO, there is no going back with bell, ade, cruz shyit, can't believe some of you still talking about bell shyit.....
After reading some posts humm,,i think looks like Hughes bud Marwood screwing the fuck up playing stupid dump with Mancini huh!!!!!!!!

 

[Soulboy]

Soulboy it's Sanchez - the other one plays for the dippers!

Aha... you were the first to spot my deliberate mistake.
I just knew that no one really reads my posts properly...
Congratulations!

Anyway, I knew all along it was Hugo Sanchez we were after.

;-))