Mancini sat with Falcao's agent

ElKun said:
MSP said:
Van Persie was as much to stop Rags having him as it would be good to have him in the team.

It's same with Chelsea and Falcao.

We don't really need new strikers at this moment but we'd certainly add some great one if circumstances would go in our favor + I can see at least 2 of Dzeko/Balotelli/Tevez somewhere else in 2014/15 season.

So - Falcao or RVP are not extremely needed at this moment but they will be soon so you are supposed to buy such players if you can even if it is a year too early.
So Falcao will be more than happy to come to City and be a part of a 5-person striker rotation for at least a year, right?

Fat chance

Buy him now, then loan him back to Atletico for a year, or till one of our strikers is sold?
 
greasedupdeafguy said:
ElKun said:
blink922 said:
It's excess and greed to want to improve your squad? Alright.
To improve the squad in the absolute last place it needs improving? Yes, it is.
You can't miss the chance to sign one of the best players in the world, his goalscoring record phenomenal similar to Ronaldo. Tevez will be leaving in two years while Dzeko and Balo are just too inconsistent, if we can sell them two and sign Falcao its not greed its logical, less rotation, less wages and we then have three very consistent/proven strikers with Guidetti as back up maybe to replace Tevez when he leaves in the near future.
You act like selling them is a simple as hanging a For Sale sign around their necks and having them moved on in a week or two, ready for other multi-million pound signings to be ushered in. These are players whom were payed alot of money for, and are on some of the highest wages in the world. How many people do you think will be lining up to pay £250,000 a week to a temperamental striker who's pushing 30 and has a history of behavioral problems? Same with Dzeko and Balo, who are also on very big wages.

I just think it's ludicrous to suggest that the club should spend £50m on a striker just because he's good and we don't want anyone else to have him when we already have 4 players in his position anyway. Especially when there are other areas in the team that need addressing.
 
ElKun said:
greasedupdeafguy said:
ElKun said:
To improve the squad in the absolute last place it needs improving? Yes, it is.
You can't miss the chance to sign one of the best players in the world, his goalscoring record phenomenal similar to Ronaldo. Tevez will be leaving in two years while Dzeko and Balo are just too inconsistent, if we can sell them two and sign Falcao its not greed its logical, less rotation, less wages and we then have three very consistent/proven strikers with Guidetti as back up maybe to replace Tevez when he leaves in the near future.
You act like selling them is a simple as hanging a For Sale sign around their necks and having them moved on in a week or two, ready for other multi-million pound signings to be ushered in. These are players whom were payed alot of money for, and are on some of the highest wages in the world. How many people do you think will be lining up to pay £250,000 a week to a temperamental striker who's pushing 30 and has a history of behavioral problems? Same with Dzeko and Balo, who are also on very big wages.

I just think it's ludicrous to suggest that the club should spend £50m on a striker just because he's good and we don't want anyone else to have him when we already have 4 players in his position anyway. Especially when there are other areas in the team that need addressing.
Firstly when I said Tevez will be leaving in the near future I meant his contract is expiring in two years so he will either leave next summer or on a free in two years. Falcao is on another level to Dzeko and Balotelli if we can get rid of one of them possibly both in January, Guidetti will go out on loan then we should do all we can to bring in Falcao. It will give us the push we need to go for both the FA cup and league and hopefully the CL. I don't think you realise how good Falcao is, if Chelsea get him they will be the best side in the country so I would say in some respects it would be worth buying him to stop one of our rivals from getting him.
 
greasedupdeafguy said:
ElKun said:
greasedupdeafguy said:
You can't miss the chance to sign one of the best players in the world, his goalscoring record phenomenal similar to Ronaldo. Tevez will be leaving in two years while Dzeko and Balo are just too inconsistent, if we can sell them two and sign Falcao its not greed its logical, less rotation, less wages and we then have three very consistent/proven strikers with Guidetti as back up maybe to replace Tevez when he leaves in the near future.
You act like selling them is a simple as hanging a For Sale sign around their necks and having them moved on in a week or two, ready for other multi-million pound signings to be ushered in. These are players whom were payed alot of money for, and are on some of the highest wages in the world. How many people do you think will be lining up to pay £250,000 a week to a temperamental striker who's pushing 30 and has a history of behavioral problems? Same with Dzeko and Balo, who are also on very big wages.

I just think it's ludicrous to suggest that the club should spend £50m on a striker just because he's good and we don't want anyone else to have him when we already have 4 players in his position anyway. Especially when there are other areas in the team that need addressing.
Firstly when I said Tevez will be leaving in the near future I meant his contract is expiring in two years so he will either leave next summer or on a free in two years. Falcao is on another level to Dzeko and Balotelli if we can get rid of one of them possibly both in January, Guidetti will go out on loan then we should do all we can to bring in Falcao. It will give us the push we need to go for both the FA cup and league and hopefully the CL. I don't think you realise how good Falcao is, if Chelsea get him they will be the best side in the country so I would say in some respects it would be worth buying him to stop one of our rivals from getting him.
So you think Balotelli and Dzeko can both be sold in the January transfer window, in time to bring in Falcao, in the exact same window?

Highly, highly unlikely.
 
ElKun said:
greasedupdeafguy said:
ElKun said:
You act like selling them is a simple as hanging a For Sale sign around their necks and having them moved on in a week or two, ready for other multi-million pound signings to be ushered in. These are players whom were payed alot of money for, and are on some of the highest wages in the world. How many people do you think will be lining up to pay £250,000 a week to a temperamental striker who's pushing 30 and has a history of behavioral problems? Same with Dzeko and Balo, who are also on very big wages.

I just think it's ludicrous to suggest that the club should spend £50m on a striker just because he's good and we don't want anyone else to have him when we already have 4 players in his position anyway. Especially when there are other areas in the team that need addressing.
Firstly when I said Tevez will be leaving in the near future I meant his contract is expiring in two years so he will either leave next summer or on a free in two years. Falcao is on another level to Dzeko and Balotelli if we can get rid of one of them possibly both in January, Guidetti will go out on loan then we should do all we can to bring in Falcao. It will give us the push we need to go for both the FA cup and league and hopefully the CL. I don't think you realise how good Falcao is, if Chelsea get him they will be the best side in the country so I would say in some respects it would be worth buying him to stop one of our rivals from getting him.
So you think Balotelli and Dzeko can both be sold in the January transfer window, in time to bring in Falcao, in the exact same window?

Highly, highly unlikely.
I said one of them and possibly both, I can't see Dzeko staying for much longer and if he leaves that will open up a space for Falcao. We were trying to sign RVP all summer so I don't think Mancini is fully happy with the strikeforce.
 
greasedupdeafguy said:
ElKun said:
greasedupdeafguy said:
Firstly when I said Tevez will be leaving in the near future I meant his contract is expiring in two years so he will either leave next summer or on a free in two years. Falcao is on another level to Dzeko and Balotelli if we can get rid of one of them possibly both in January, Guidetti will go out on loan then we should do all we can to bring in Falcao. It will give us the push we need to go for both the FA cup and league and hopefully the CL. I don't think you realise how good Falcao is, if Chelsea get him they will be the best side in the country so I would say in some respects it would be worth buying him to stop one of our rivals from getting him.
So you think Balotelli and Dzeko can both be sold in the January transfer window, in time to bring in Falcao, in the exact same window?

Highly, highly unlikely.
I said one of them and possibly both, I can't see Dzeko staying for much longer and if he leaves that will open up a space for Falcao. We were trying to sign RVP all summer so I don't think Mancini is fully happy with the strikeforce.
The same Dzeko who said just last week he intends to stay and fight for his place?

And if the strikeforce at Mancini's disposal isn't enough, it's the manager that's the problem, not the personnel.
 
greasedupdeafguy said:
ElKun said:
blink922 said:
It's excess and greed to want to improve your squad? Alright.
To improve the squad in the absolute last place it needs improving? Yes, it is.
You can't miss the chance to sign one of the best players in the world, his goalscoring record phenomenal similar to Ronaldo. Tevez will be leaving in two years while Dzeko and Balo are just too inconsistent, if we can sell them two and sign Falcao its not greed its logical, less rotation, less wages and we then have three very consistent/proven strikers with Guidetti as back up maybe to replace Tevez when he leaves in the near future.

only this<br /><br />-- Mon Oct 15, 2012 4:40 pm --<br /><br />
ElKun said:
stavros said:
just being greedy.
we need a world world class centre mid imo
falcao would be nice and improve us although he isnt a necessity.
it could also be argued he is a necessity if it stops chelsea getting him
So we should stockpile multi-million-pound players just so other top teams can't get them?

Ridiculous way of thinking.

where did i say stock pile them ?
i said if we could accomodate him we cant miss out on the opportunity to sign him.
and to suggest any other than him signing for chelsea would be detrimental to us is simply ridiculous.
i agree we are strong up front but with him we would be even better.
so stop rimming dogs you big cheese face and get off your high horse.
 
ElKun said:
greasedupdeafguy said:
ElKun said:
So you think Balotelli and Dzeko can both be sold in the January transfer window, in time to bring in Falcao, in the exact same window?

Highly, highly unlikely.
I said one of them and possibly both, I can't see Dzeko staying for much longer and if he leaves that will open up a space for Falcao. We were trying to sign RVP all summer so I don't think Mancini is fully happy with the strikeforce.
The same Dzeko who said just last week he intends to stay and fight for his place?

And if the strikeforce at Mancini's disposal isn't enough, it's the manager that's the problem, not the personnel.

Every post you've made on here has been why we shouldn't buy Falcao or why we shouldn't buy Zaha, or someone else. And then you go on to question Mancini several times, are you actually a City fan? My belief is that Mancini manages the team, is with them in training every day, has built the team to the level it is now (as we were starting to go backwards under Hughes), knows what the team needs, and has earned a lot of good faith from City fans who should back him. Therefore, if Mancini wants an uber clinical striker it must be for a reason and as nice as our striker options may look, none of them are as clinical as a Van Persie or Falcao, who could make games we make hard on ourselves (a more regular occurrence than they should be) a lot easier. I don't believe Falcao will move in January anyway and if he doesn't we'll have much longer to find suitors for the player or players making way for him.
 
LoveCity said:
ElKun said:
greasedupdeafguy said:
I said one of them and possibly both, I can't see Dzeko staying for much longer and if he leaves that will open up a space for Falcao. We were trying to sign RVP all summer so I don't think Mancini is fully happy with the strikeforce.
The same Dzeko who said just last week he intends to stay and fight for his place?

And if the strikeforce at Mancini's disposal isn't enough, it's the manager that's the problem, not the personnel.

Every post you've made on here has been why we shouldn't buy Falcao or why we shouldn't buy Zaha, or someone else. And then you go on to question Mancini several times, are you actually a City fan? My belief is that Mancini manages the team, is with them in training every day, has built the team to the level it is now (as we were starting to go backwards under Hughes), knows what the team needs, and has earned a lot of good faith from City fans who should back him. Therefore, if Mancini wants an uber clinical striker it must be for a reason and as nice as our striker options may look, none of them are as clinical as a Van Persie or Falcao, who could make games we make hard on ourselves (a more regular occurrence than they should be) a lot easier. I don't believe Falcao will move in January anyway and if he doesn't we'll have much longer to find suitors for the player or players making way for him.
So because I don't agree with the "we should buy everybody good even if we don't need them, and so other teams can't" philosophy on here, I'm not a City fan?

I've said several times that there are areas in the team that need attention far more than a position we have one of the best sets of players for in world football.

And yes, I feel that if Mancini thinks this strikeforce he has just isn't gonna cut it for him, the problem is with him, not the players. There are only about 2 or 3 teams on the planet that wouldn't trade their strikeforce with City's, and if Bobby says he needs more additions to it to get the team working, there is a problem.
 

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