Mancini should recieve more credit.

[stonerblue]

I mean it. After arsenal it reminded me of when you haven't watered a plant for weeks in hot weather. Then suddenly, like that plant when watered, it came back to life. It regained it's structure. I havent seen it look so proud since last years cup final. It started to look like a cushion of air sat between his head and his hair.

You could see the confidence starting to course through the whole club with his returning mane.

Masterful mindgames ..

Lambert gave Bobby his bouffantiers card after the Norwich game and the rest is, as they say, history

I see the lunatics are trying to run the Asylum again.

I know. How the fuck can someone who lives in Norwich claim to be at the forefront of bouffantery when they go to a saaaaaalon with such a shit name.
I can't even work out the hair related pun in 'Asylum' but there must be one, it's the law.

 

[sergiokun]

Mancini will never get credit from theses Shit pundits

 

[Dribble]

You poor, bewildered, wretch of a person.

I've handed you your arse, now try to use it properly, instead of as a letterbox to post your tripe on here, you clown.

Love,

Remoh

Tut Tut, language!!! Ha ha ha!! The match is won but you're still stood on the sidelines jumping about like the demented Stuart 'Psycho' Pearce used to asking for a tie-breaker!!! Lol :-)

The more you wriggle, the deeper into the doo doo you sink but yet you wriggle further as you try to grasp the simple concepts I have presented you with. Next your name Remoh will be replaced by your new user name 'Bubbles in the Poo' as your head submerges below the surface. Ha ha ha!!!

It would be funny if you were a worthy adversary, but alas you have proved anything other than. So in finality:

We registered less players than the permitted maximum. The squad that was registered included players injured (Hargreaves) & academy products, hence why we had a smaller pool of players to fall back on when injuries, suspensions and ACN struck and why Mancini wants to purge the club of certain fringe and players on loan and replace them with 2-3 world class additions thus strengthening the gene pool of the squad.

Hargreaves was unfortunately injured most of the season ala Vidic, but unlike ManUre who (pointedly or not) drew comparisons between them losing Vidic being akin to us losing Kompany, we just got on with the task in hand as a team without Kompany and allowed our superb medical staff to work their magic to limit the amount of down-time for the likes of Kompany, Lescott and others.

Management choices: It's sooooo easy for you to make this rediculous claim about management choices, but when I ask you to explain which other manager has ever made perfect choices throughout a season, you cannot reply sensibly and retort 'you're not here to talk about other manager's only Mancini'.

Good, bad or indifferent, Mancini made the better management choices throughout the season and certainly better than any other manager, hence Manchester City Football Club - Premier League Champions 2011-2012!!! As I said to you earlier fella, If you've nothing sensible to say, do yourself a favour and say nowt eh and leave our Roberto alone!!! :-)

Roberto only registered 23 over 21 players, which is a bit of a mystery considering that he had the likes of Balotelli and Savic who could play without being registered ( as young players). He sometimes moves in a mysterious way, it seems. What would have been the harm in registering 25 over-21 players; he had plenty to pick from?

I don't suppose that there are any managers in the League who go through a season without making mistakes, but I am only concerned with the management of my team, so that's where I place my comments.

I don't think that I'll take your orders re. who I can criticise, but I am hoping that Mancini improves the attack for next season so that I don't have to. Not personnel,(apart from the addition of a good winger or two) just pace and genuine width.

It's a shame that you devote more words to invective than logic, but that's just your personality type, I suppose, and an attempted diversion when you're struggling.

At times, you write like an ITK, by the way. Do you draw your salary from the Etihad?

Roberto only registered 23 over 21 players, which is a bit of a mystery considering that he had the likes of Balotelli and Savic who could play without being registered ( as young players). He sometimes moves in a mysterious way, it seems. What would have been the harm in registering 25 over-21 players; he had plenty to pick from?

Bloody hell, a reasoned point of view at last!!! Wonders will never cease!!! Lol :-) Anyway as I said previously our Roberto would rather have players he is actually going to use in his squad rather than use unwanted players as squad fillers. Hence why he wants to clear the remaining deadwood as confirmed by Sheikh Mansour and replace them with world class quality, thus increasing the overall quality of our squad gene pool.....

I don't suppose that there are any managers in the League who go through a season without making mistakes, but I am only concerned with the management of my team, so that's where I place my comments.

I understand what you are saying but totally disagree. A mistake can only be measured if compared to something else. A mistake is only truly a mistake if you do not learn from it. If you do, it is then called experience which forms part of the building blocks of life. Give me experience over intellect anyday.

You say 'don't suppose that there are any managers in the League who go through a season without making mistakes'. There's no suppose about it, our success can be very easily quantified as such: We got less wrong than our opponents and more right than our opponents hence we are the champions (god it feels good saying that) and the main credit for this must go to our leader Roberto Mancini....

I don't think that I'll take your orders re. who I can criticise, but I am hoping that Mancini improves the attack for next season so that I don't have to. Not personnel,(apart from the addition of a good winger or two) just pace and genuine width.

'I am hoping that Mancini improves the attack for next season so that I don't have to.' We scored more than any other team last year and broke all manner of records in the process. Yes we should always strive to improve as our leader constantly tells us, but I think you're being a tad harsh on our Roberto there.

Also 'so you don't have to' what? I don't quite understand you...

'Not personnel,(apart from the addition of a good winger or two) just pace and genuine width.' Pace and genuine width are a great plan b IMHO and along with endeavour it has been the cornerstone of ManUre's success over the last 20 years, but the coming personal comment isn't aimed at just you and it is just a general observation of mine, but what is the British obssession with having sprinters (wingers) out wide and slinging the ball into the box? TBH I prefer the Barca model of play and I can see that we are closer in DNA to that style of football than the pace, power and endeavour style of the Rags.

'I don't think that I'll take your orders re. who I can criticise' - Now watch it!!! Lol

'It's a shame that you devote more words to invective than logic, but that's just your personality type, I suppose, and an attempted diversion when you're struggling.

You're pushing your luck buddy!!! Remember this:

'You poor, bewildered, wretch of a person. I've handed you your arse, now try to use it properly, instead of as a letterbox to post your tripe on here, you clown.'

..... Now I know what is left of your peanut brain has turned to slush, so in the spirit of pity for care in the community cases like yourself, I'll let you off.... Lol :-)

At times, you write like an ITK, by the way. Do you draw your salary from the Etihad?

I take the 5th...... :-)

 

[remoh]

Tut Tut, language!!! Ha ha ha!! The match is won but you're still stood on the sidelines jumping about like the demented Stuart 'Psycho' Pearce used to asking for a tie-breaker!!! Lol :-)

The more you wriggle, the deeper into the doo doo you sink but yet you wriggle further as you try to grasp the simple concepts I have presented you with. Next your name Remoh will be replaced by your new user name 'Bubbles in the Poo' as your head submerges below the surface. Ha ha ha!!!

It would be funny if you were a worthy adversary, but alas you have proved anything other than. So in finality:

We registered less players than the permitted maximum. The squad that was registered included players injured (Hargreaves) & academy products, hence why we had a smaller pool of players to fall back on when injuries, suspensions and ACN struck and why Mancini wants to purge the club of certain fringe and players on loan and replace them with 2-3 world class additions thus strengthening the gene pool of the squad.

Hargreaves was unfortunately injured most of the season ala Vidic, but unlike ManUre who (pointedly or not) drew comparisons between them losing Vidic being akin to us losing Kompany, we just got on with the task in hand as a team without Kompany and allowed our superb medical staff to work their magic to limit the amount of down-time for the likes of Kompany, Lescott and others.

Management choices: It's sooooo easy for you to make this rediculous claim about management choices, but when I ask you to explain which other manager has ever made perfect choices throughout a season, you cannot reply sensibly and retort 'you're not here to talk about other manager's only Mancini'.

Good, bad or indifferent, Mancini made the better management choices throughout the season and certainly better than any other manager, hence Manchester City Football Club - Premier League Champions 2011-2012!!! As I said to you earlier fella, If you've nothing sensible to say, do yourself a favour and say nowt eh and leave our Roberto alone!!! :-)

Roberto only registered 23 over 21 players, which is a bit of a mystery considering that he had the likes of Balotelli and Savic who could play without being registered ( as young players). He sometimes moves in a mysterious way, it seems. What would have been the harm in registering 25 over-21 players; he had plenty to pick from?

I don't suppose that there are any managers in the League who go through a season without making mistakes, but I am only concerned with the management of my team, so that's where I place my comments.

I don't think that I'll take your orders re. who I can criticise, but I am hoping that Mancini improves the attack for next season so that I don't have to. Not personnel,(apart from the addition of a good winger or two) just pace and genuine width.

It's a shame that you devote more words to invective than logic, but that's just your personality type, I suppose, and an attempted diversion when you're struggling.

At times, you write like an ITK, by the way. Do you draw your salary from the Etihad?

Roberto only registered 23 over 21 players, which is a bit of a mystery considering that he had the likes of Balotelli and Savic who could play without being registered ( as young players). He sometimes moves in a mysterious way, it seems. What would have been the harm in registering 25 over-21 players; he had plenty to pick from?

Bloody hell, a reasoned point of view at last!!! Wonders will never cease!!! Lol :-) Anyway as I said previously our Roberto would rather have players he is actually going to use in his squad rather than use unwanted players as squad fillers. Hence why he wants to clear the remaining deadwood as confirmed by Sheikh Mansour and replace them with world class quality, thus increasing the overall quality of our squad gene pool.....

I don't suppose that there are any managers in the League who go through a season without making mistakes, but I am only concerned with the management of my team, so that's where I place my comments.

I understand what you are saying but totally disagree. A mistake can only be measured if compared to something else. A mistake is only truly a mistake if you do not learn from it. If you do, it is then called experience which forms part of the building blocks of life. Give me experience over intellect anyday.

You say 'don't suppose that there are any managers in the League who go through a season without making mistakes'. There's no suppose about it, our success can be very easily quantified as such: We got less wrong than our opponents and more right than our opponents hence we are the champions (god it feels good saying that) and the main credit for this must go to our leader Roberto Mancini....

I don't think that I'll take your orders re. who I can criticise, but I am hoping that Mancini improves the attack for next season so that I don't have to. Not personnel,(apart from the addition of a good winger or two) just pace and genuine width.

'I am hoping that Mancini improves the attack for next season so that I don't have to.' We scored more than any other team last year and broke all manner of records in the process. Yes we should always strive to improve as our leader constantly tells us, but I think you're being a tad harsh on our Roberto there.

Also 'so you don't have to' what? I don't quite understand you...

'Not personnel,(apart from the addition of a good winger or two) just pace and genuine width.' Pace and genuine width are a great plan b IMHO and along with endeavour it has been the cornerstone of ManUre's success over the last 20 years, but the coming personal comment isn't aimed at just you and it is just a general observation of mine, but what is the British obssession with having sprinters (wingers) out wide and slinging the ball into the box? TBH I prefer the Barca model of play and I can see that we are closer in DNA to that style of football than the pace, power and endeavour style of the Rags.

'I don't think that I'll take your orders re. who I can criticise' - Now watch it!!! Lol

'It's a shame that you devote more words to invective than logic, but that's just your personality type, I suppose, and an attempted diversion when you're struggling.

You're pushing your luck buddy!!! Remember this:

'You poor, bewildered, wretch of a person. I've handed you your arse, now try to use it properly, instead of as a letterbox to post your tripe on here, you clown.'

..... Now I know what is left of your peanut brain has turned to slush, so in the spirit of pity for care in the community cases like yourself, I'll let you off.... Lol :-)

At times, you write like an ITK, by the way. Do you draw your salary from the Etihad?

I take the 5th...... :-)

Now that's more like it! (mostly) I take it you've sobered up. ;0)

I can only repeat stuff which I have already posted ;your plan was
to wear me down by way of repetition - right?

This is my last post of this particular argument with you and I'll keep it as brief as I can. I've already given Mancini credit for the good work which he has done with us; such things as the clear improvement in fitness levels in the squad and the grit to win games in time added on. Team spirit, too, is excellent and that can only come from him. We now have a Cup and a League victory in two seasons and for many Blues that proves that everything in the garden is rosey, but I watch the games, not just the results, and I see that we struggle more than we might against poorer sides who know that if they park the bus, they might just sneak a result with a breakaway. It's happened, hasn't it. In respect to this, our drubbing of the Scum on their own midden could have made life harder for us, because lots of managers decided to play against us as if they were the away team after that, when they were at home.!
It's easy to carry out this tactic against against a team who build up slowly with a compact formation; the opposition have all the time in the world to amble back and choke off our supplies to our forwards and then have loads of space behind us to exploit when we lose possession. If you don't believe me, try Martin O'Neill (a superb manager), who cost us five points in the league last season with a, man-for-man, greatly inferior squad; or just replay the last game of our season. For most of it we were dead ducks, playing against a possible relegation team.
We've scored lots of goals nevertheless, but could we have done that without our star-studded line-up? No: not on tactics, we couldn't.
This is where I'm looking for improvements next season and I'm encouraged by the tales that Roberto is looking for a quality winger - assuming that he plays him on his proper foot!
A Plan B on tactics could also bring out the best in our second-choice players, such as Milner, Dzeko and AJ (always assumihg that they are still with us) who often struggle with our present style, which demands an exceptionally high standard of technique because space is so tight. Good tactics create space.
I've always thought that when Mancini arrived, he brought all of his own natural talent, but also a pre-conceived tactical plan, which was based on his succesful spell in Italy. He's having to adapt to a totally different game, here, but, so far, his game plan has stayed the same. This, more than anything, is what riles me. What works in Italian football, where the other side is playing the same way, is, imo, not good here.

It's good to see that you have taken a mature (mostly) approach in your last post and, as always, I have tried to reflect that in mine.

You will not agree with a word of the above, I know, but those are my beliefs and they will stay that way.

Forza City!

 

[Feed-The-Goat]

I only have about 80p left.

I suppose he could have half.

 

[redmizzle]

What I just don't get, it's why it is so hard to say 'I was wrong about Mancini, he's actually a good manager.'

We've won the league a year ahead of schedule. The target at the start of the season was to challenge in the league, qualify for Europe and do alright in the cups.

If we'd not done any of those things, played crap and finished 7th in the league I wouldn't have had a problem with saying 'Fuck stability, get him sacked' or similar words to that effect.

I'm at a loss why it can't work the other way round.

Ego.

 

[Dribble]

Roberto only registered 23 over 21 players, which is a bit of a mystery considering that he had the likes of Balotelli and Savic who could play without being registered ( as young players). He sometimes moves in a mysterious way, it seems. What would have been the harm in registering 25 over-21 players; he had plenty to pick from?

I don't suppose that there are any managers in the League who go through a season without making mistakes, but I am only concerned with the management of my team, so that's where I place my comments.

I don't think that I'll take your orders re. who I can criticise, but I am hoping that Mancini improves the attack for next season so that I don't have to. Not personnel,(apart from the addition of a good winger or two) just pace and genuine width.

It's a shame that you devote more words to invective than logic, but that's just your personality type, I suppose, and an attempted diversion when you're struggling.

At times, you write like an ITK, by the way. Do you draw your salary from the Etihad?

Roberto only registered 23 over 21 players, which is a bit of a mystery considering that he had the likes of Balotelli and Savic who could play without being registered ( as young players). He sometimes moves in a mysterious way, it seems. What would have been the harm in registering 25 over-21 players; he had plenty to pick from?

Bloody hell, a reasoned point of view at last!!! Wonders will never cease!!! Lol :-) Anyway as I said previously our Roberto would rather have players he is actually going to use in his squad rather than use unwanted players as squad fillers. Hence why he wants to clear the remaining deadwood as confirmed by Sheikh Mansour and replace them with world class quality, thus increasing the overall quality of our squad gene pool.....

I don't suppose that there are any managers in the League who go through a season without making mistakes, but I am only concerned with the management of my team, so that's where I place my comments.

I understand what you are saying but totally disagree. A mistake can only be measured if compared to something else. A mistake is only truly a mistake if you do not learn from it. If you do, it is then called experience which forms part of the building blocks of life. Give me experience over intellect anyday.

You say 'don't suppose that there are any managers in the League who go through a season without making mistakes'. There's no suppose about it, our success can be very easily quantified as such: We got less wrong than our opponents and more right than our opponents hence we are the champions (god it feels good saying that) and the main credit for this must go to our leader Roberto Mancini....

I don't think that I'll take your orders re. who I can criticise, but I am hoping that Mancini improves the attack for next season so that I don't have to. Not personnel,(apart from the addition of a good winger or two) just pace and genuine width.

'I am hoping that Mancini improves the attack for next season so that I don't have to.' We scored more than any other team last year and broke all manner of records in the process. Yes we should always strive to improve as our leader constantly tells us, but I think you're being a tad harsh on our Roberto there.

Also 'so you don't have to' what? I don't quite understand you...

'Not personnel,(apart from the addition of a good winger or two) just pace and genuine width.' Pace and genuine width are a great plan b IMHO and along with endeavour it has been the cornerstone of ManUre's success over the last 20 years, but the coming personal comment isn't aimed at just you and it is just a general observation of mine, but what is the British obssession with having sprinters (wingers) out wide and slinging the ball into the box? TBH I prefer the Barca model of play and I can see that we are closer in DNA to that style of football than the pace, power and endeavour style of the Rags.

'I don't think that I'll take your orders re. who I can criticise' - Now watch it!!! Lol

'It's a shame that you devote more words to invective than logic, but that's just your personality type, I suppose, and an attempted diversion when you're struggling.

You're pushing your luck buddy!!! Remember this:

'You poor, bewildered, wretch of a person. I've handed you your arse, now try to use it properly, instead of as a letterbox to post your tripe on here, you clown.'

..... Now I know what is left of your peanut brain has turned to slush, so in the spirit of pity for care in the community cases like yourself, I'll let you off.... Lol :-)

At times, you write like an ITK, by the way. Do you draw your salary from the Etihad?

I take the 5th...... :-)

Now that's more like it! (mostly) I take it you've sobered up. ;0)

I can only repeat stuff which I have already posted ;your plan was
to wear me down by way of repetition - right?

This is my last post of this particular argument with you and I'll keep it as brief as I can. I've already given Mancini credit for the good work which he has done with us; such things as the clear improvement in fitness levels in the squad and the grit to win games in time added on. Team spirit, too, is excellent and that can only come from him. We now have a Cup and a League victory in two seasons and for many Blues that proves that everything in the garden is rosey, but I watch the games, not just the results, and I see that we struggle more than we might against poorer sides who know that if they park the bus, they might just sneak a result with a breakaway. It's happened, hasn't it. In respect to this, our drubbing of the Scum on their own midden could have made life harder for us, because lots of managers decided to play against us as if they were the away team after that, when they were at home.!
It's easy to carry out this tactic against against a team who build up slowly with a compact formation; the opposition have all the time in the world to amble back and choke off our supplies to our forwards and then have loads of space behind us to exploit when we lose possession. If you don't believe me, try Martin O'Neill (a superb manager), who cost us five points in the league last season with a, man-for-man, greatly inferior squad; or just replay the last game of our season. For most of it we were dead ducks, playing against a possible relegation team.
We've scored lots of goals nevertheless, but could we have done that without our star-studded line-up? No: not on tactics, we couldn't.
This is where I'm looking for improvements next season and I'm encouraged by the tales that Roberto is looking for a quality winger - assuming that he plays him on his proper foot!
A Plan B on tactics could also bring out the best in our second-choice players, such as Milner, Dzeko and AJ (always assumihg that they are still with us) who often struggle with our present style, which demands an exceptionally high standard of technique because space is so tight. Good tactics create space.
I've always thought that when Mancini arrived, he brought all of his own natural talent, but also a pre-conceived tactical plan, which was based on his succesful spell in Italy. He's having to adapt to a totally different game, here, but, so far, his game plan has stayed the same. This, more than anything, is what riles me. What works in Italian football, where the other side is playing the same way, is, imo, not good here.

It's good to see that you have taken a mature (mostly) approach in your last post and, as always, I have tried to reflect that in mine.

You will not agree with a word of the above, I know, but those are my beliefs and they will stay that way.

Forza City!

I'm glad to see that your medication has finally kicked in...... Thank fuck for chemicals eh!!!!! Lol :-)

We now have a Cup and a League victory in two seasons and for many Blues that proves that everything in the garden is rosey, but I watch the games, not just the results, and I see that we struggle more than we might against poorer sides who know that if they park the bus, they might just sneak a result with a breakaway.

I see your point, but we are in good company in that respect as Barca suffer from the same affliction. But just like Guardiola, Mancini has not panicked and thus remained true to his philosophy knowing that the cream always rises to the top........ eventually!! I suppose there are two ways at looking at this, do we

a) Stick to our game plan and force the opposition to change their tactics to combat us?
or
b) Change our tactics to suit the opposition?

I don't think there's a right or wrong answer, but I firmly believe that tactical flexibilty and having options in the squad and on the bench to adapt to the opposition or change the game whilst in play are crucial things to have. One thing I would hate though would be if Mancini threw away his footballing philosophy and tried to turn us into a faster, stronger, more pacey and endeavorous version of ManUre or Spuds which sadly seems to be the English way.

Like I said previously, I prefer skill, football and tactics as opposed to ManUre's or Spud's brand of kick and rush, helter skelter football but again it is about personal preferences and opinions.

We've scored lots of goals nevertheless, but could we have done that without our star-studded line-up? No: not on tactics, we couldn't.

Probably not, but that is why Mancini and Sheikh Mansour want to purge our squad of the unwanted players and replace them with the quality to ensure that we continue to stand a better than average chance of beating our opposition. Having said that, there are no guarantees that ditching our patient, possession build up style of play for ManUre's or Spud's brand of kick and rush, helter skelter football would bear more fruit and to be honest, this season has proved that our style of play can win the day........ eventually!! Lol

A Plan B on tactics could also bring out the best in our second-choice players, such as Milner, Dzeko and AJ (always assumihg that they are still with us) who often struggle with our present style, which demands an exceptionally high standard of technique because space is so tight.

Again its about opinions, but the plan b should just be that because if it ever became plan A, IMHO that would be a regressive step just to accomodate the less technically gifted members of our squad & in the case of AJ the less tactically aware.....

I've always thought that when Mancini arrived, he brought all of his own natural talent, but also a pre-conceived tactical plan, which was based on his succesful spell in Italy. He's having to adapt to a totally different game, here, but, so far, his game plan has stayed the same. This, more than anything, is what riles me. What works in Italian football, where the other side is playing the same way, is, imo, not good here.

But is has worked here unless us winning the Premiership was just a wet dream! :-)

Don't you recall 'boring boring City'? Mancini played with the hand he was dealt when he first arrived and he adjusted his tactics, footballing philosophy and utilised his playing staff accordingly. Rewind to 12 months ago and with the benefit of 18 months in the Premier League, Mancini had been given the time to assess what needed to be done. Mancini made player aquisitions and let some players go and instantly turned us from being 'boring boring City' into the great entertainers, scoring more than anyone else and conceding less than anyone else. To me that is success, 'pre-conceived tactical plan' or not, Mancini has the Premier League title under his belt to prove it.

I don't see why this should rile you, but if it does, it does..... It's impossible to know or understand what is going through Mancini's mind unless you walk a mile in his shoes. As you've quite correctly pointed out though, there are many ways to skin a cat, so all I'm saying is don't get too hot under the collar and riled if you don't understand what Mancini is trying to achieve because ultimately it's the trophies that count.

Hopefully my calming words will have hepled to soothe your riled and fevered brow.... If not, just ask the nurse to up your medication and go for a lie down!!! There, there now................ Lol :-)

 

[LongsightM13]

What I just don't get, it's why it is so hard to say 'I was wrong about Mancini, he's actually a good manager.'

We've won the league a year ahead of schedule. The target at the start of the season was to challenge in the league, qualify for Europe and do alright in the cups.

If we'd not done any of those things, played crap and finished 7th in the league I wouldn't have had a problem with saying 'Fuck stability, get him sacked' or similar words to that effect.

I'm at a loss why it can't work the other way round.

Ego.

Exactly. Nobody likes being proved wrong, particularly the sort of person who thinks they are always right.
If they are proved wrong twice in a row, it is like a dagger to their self-esteem.
Some people can accept they were mistaken, like Billy did at the end of last season. Though he relapsed in April, he is not beyond salvation.
Others will never accept they were wrong, and wrong again, even when all evidence points to that fact. These people will become entrenched in their incorrect stance as a matter of ego and misplaced personal pride, rather than opening their soul to the possibility that they are not perfect and occasionally get things incorrect. They become isolated and their statements become more outlandish and embittered as they week to defend an indefensible position.
So it basically becomes a choice of what kind of person you are.

 

[Didsbury Dave]

What I just don't get, it's why it is so hard to say 'I was wrong about Mancini, he's actually a good manager.'

We've won the league a year ahead of schedule. The target at the start of the season was to challenge in the league, qualify for Europe and do alright in the cups.

If we'd not done any of those things, played crap and finished 7th in the league I wouldn't have had a problem with saying 'Fuck stability, get him sacked' or similar words to that effect.

I'm at a loss why it can't work the other way round.

Ego.

Exactly. Nobody likes being proved wrong, particularly the sort of person who thinks they are always right.
If they are proved wrong twice in a row, it is like a dagger to their self-esteem.
Some people can accept they were mistaken, like Billy did at the end of last season. Though he relapsed in April, he is not beyond salvation.
Others will never accept they were wrong, and wrong again, even when all evidence points to that fact. These people will become entrenched in their incorrect stance as a matter of ego and misplaced personal pride, rather than opening their soul to the possibility that they are not perfect and occasionally get things incorrect. They become isolated and their statements become more outlandish and embittered as they week to defend an indefensible position.
So it basically becomes a choice of what kind of person you are.

This may be an outloandish statement, but I have a gut feeling you are spoiling for a row with someone, and have been for a couple of weeks.

No idea who, like ;-)

 

[LongsightM13]

This may be an outloandish statement, but I have a gut feeling you are spoiling for a row with someone, and have been for a couple of weeks.

No idea who, like ;-)

We've been having this back and forward, to and fro, for a couple of seasons now Dave.
I rate the manager, you don't. Neither of us is going to change the other's mind.
So while I'm not the sort to back down from a debate, I don't think the two of us going through the motions all over again, like the Stones dragging their ageing carcass back on the road to run through Satisfaction and Brown Sugar for the 19,000th time, would add much to the board.