Mancini you are gutless

I dont believe this is the case. There is a middle ground that realises we simply must finish in the top 4 this season. Our entire plan rests on it with the FFP regulations soon kicking in. And Mancini's job rests on it. So at the moment we are in the results business. And the manager is doing what is necessary to attain those results. I don't think RM gives a fuck what kind of football it takes to do so right now.

Besides - Liverpool, Chelsea, West Brom, Poznan at home, even Blackburn at home certainly wasn't boring.
 
flb said:
Dave-your belittling a club that have dominated English football for near on 20 years,unfortunately they are BIG RED im afraid.

You say they arnt that good but lie second in the table?Dave they are good-in fact better than us still at this present time.Yes we do have a squad better than theres but the facts are they are extremely well drilled,still pass the ball very well,have a system the whole club at all levels use-all of which come from having a manager in place for more than five minuites (Arsenal also).

Dave you make it sound like we should be 6 points clear at the top of the table!

They have the same squad and team that lost a fourth successive title last year by one point.

We would have taken a draw against WBA and a win against the rags wouldnt we?

I'm not belittling anyone, I'm giving my opinion. And it's an opinion shared by many knowledgeable Utd fans. They perform better than they should do and have done since Ronaldo left. That's what a good manager gives you.

Take note Khaldoon.
 
Project said:
I dont believe this is the case. There is a middle ground that realises we simply must finish in the top 4 this season. Our entire plan rests on it with the FFP regulations soon kicking in. And Mancini's job rests on it. So at the moment we are in the results business. And the manager is doing what is necessary to attain those results. I don't think RM gives a fuck what kind of football it takes to do so right now.

Besides - Liverpool, Chelsea, West Brom, Poznan at home, even Blackburn at home certainly wasn't boring.

That's where a lot of peoples fears stem from though. Last season the same excuses about results being more important than performances were trotted out. In the end we fell short...

This season, although we are 4th, we still seem to be dropping the same kind of points. The word trajectory springs to mind. Two steps forward one step back isn't going to lead to us comfortably finishing 4th IMO....it's going to lead to us doing battle with someone like Spurs or Liverpool in the last third of the season for that spot as we did last season...
 
Absolutely correct. Mancini has one goal and one goal only, to get us into the top 4.

He is a very calculating individual, he knows exactly what he needs to do to get us there and he is going to do it no matter what people on here think.

He'll open up when he thinks its a good idea, judge him in May, I am ultra confident taht we shall be at least 4th
 
There's no problem defending Mancini as long as you admit he went looking for the draw. It's a bit ridiculous to suggest he tried to win that game tbf. He went for the draw and got it, so it was a successful evening, doesn't mean we can't be disappointed he didn't try and win it.
 
Project said:
And the manager is doing what is necessary to attain those results. I don't think RM gives a fuck what kind of football it takes to do so right now.

Besides - Liverpool, Chelsea, West Brom, Poznan at home, even Blackburn at home certainly wasn't boring.

5 out of 19 games being semi-entertaining is not a glowing reference.

You are right, he doesn't care but the point that grates is when we are happy to settle for a point in games that we need to be at least trying to win.

Last year he had a considerable amount of time to get us in the top four and he failed, so I really wouldn't hold any sway to the belief that his brand of football is going to fair any better this time.
 
malc'scigar said:
Absolutely correct. Mancini has one goal and one goal only, to get us into the top 4.

He is a very calculating individual, he knows exactly what he needs to do to get us there and he is going to do it no matter what people on here think.

He'll open up when he thinks its a good idea, judge him in May, I am ultra confident taht we shall be at least 4th

I don't agree and it worries me that a lot of City fans talk this way.

4th is his absolute bare minimum. Even if we finish 4th there's a chance we could be dumped on our arse by some Poznan team in the qualifier. That's not a chance the Shiekh and chairman will want to take.

I'd say 3rd is his minimum target.

But behind the scenes, I believe he was told, and agreed, that the challenge was to push the front runners. All his interviews early this season, and that of the club staff, confirmed that.

But now I sense some people are happy for us to battle for 4th.

We're better than that.
 
what's more gutless? taking one of the highest pressure jobs in world football, putting up with all the crap in the media and a bad run of form to get a good win against a good side away from home on sunday and get our first clean sheet in a derby for what, 4 years? despite us playing like utter shite for large periods of the 2nd half...

or slagging someone off behind a username on an internet forum when they have no means to defend themselves and making unfounded assumptions about him when you don't know them...

on last night you'd have to say Mancini and Fergie were equally "gutless" last night.
 

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