Mancini you are gutless

[TheMightyQuinn]

Mancini knew if the game became open, United would come out winning. Thats why he couldnt let the team have a go at them, a point is still good result against United

You've not heard the news then mate? United are the PL soft touch, everyone beats them, they rarely finish in a position above any team of note and all their players are really poor.

 

[mammutly]

I'm happy with a point, Mancini and the tactics. We gave it a really good go at Old Trafford last year after a great start to the season, but we got beat, heads went down and then went on our drawing spree. In fact this season the only time I was slightly unhappy with the result was Wolves, but these things happen.

If you would have told me at this point of the season we would be fourth in the table, 4 points clear of the nearest team and 5 points ahead of Spuds and the red dippers, I would have snatched your hand off. Factor in that we have played all 5 of the other 'big six' team once. United are 3 points ahead, but they have not played the teams in first and third. If they win them both then Chelsea and Arsenal come back to us. If they lose one or both all the better.

Look at the next six games for each team

US - Birmingham, Fulham, Stoke, Bolton, West Ham, Everton.
Scum -Villa, Wigan, Blackburn, Blackpool, Arsenal, Chelsea.
Arsenal- Everton, Tottenham, Villa, Fulham, Man Utd, Stoke.
Chelsea - Sunderland, Birmingham, Newcastle, Everton, Spurs, ManUtd.

I feel we can pick up more points in these games than at least 2 of the other contenters to Christmas. I mean look at Arsenals fixtures, almost every one is a possible lost points if I was betting on the results.

We will be second or joint second by christmas, mark my words.

I agree completel and you spell it out very well. The season is not even a third over

People are generalising far too much from one game.

 

[Mancio]

Mancini knew if the game became open, United would come out winning. Thats why he couldnt let the team have a go at them, a point is still good result against United

You've not heard the news then mate? United are the PL soft touch, everyone beats them, they rarely finish in a position above any team of note and all their players are really poor.

if you go on a real madrid forum , or on a barca forum , or on a bayern forum , or on an inter forum , and you ask something like :

" tomorrow you have to play manchester united , are you sure you'll win " ?

i bet the large majority of the answer would be :

"no , you can never be sure when two top team play against"


then you can ask :

"playng a derby , the home team is favourite " ?

but , maybe , its better if you dont do this question , they can get you as a (fottball intended) retarded :O)

 

[shadygiz]

And that my friend, in my opinion, after nearly a year in charge, is not good enough...hence the fear that we're going to struggle in the final third of the season...

Another thing I want to pick you up on...you keep going on about how "we" should have learned by now about sacking managers over the last 30 years....just out of curiousity, which of that list of umpteen sacked managers went on to prove we were wrong to sack him?

Very good point mate. Cannot argue with that. You have made me think. None.

(which if any mod is watching is how you debate as Billy has just shown by using reason, intelligence and persistance!)

I am still not pro or anti-Mancini, but I am happy so far with the table.

Could you answer my question a page or so back about taking this position and those teams relative to us back on Aug 1st for example, (what I am trying to get at is whether its what you have seen that puts you off or the results or both or neither).

leopards don't change their spots...you will revert to norm once you feel you have proven your point

 

[TheMightyQuinn]

You've not heard the news then mate? United are the PL soft touch, everyone beats them, they rarely finish in a position above any team of note and all their players are really poor.

if you go on a real madrid forum , or on a barca forum , or on a bayern forum , or on an inter forum , and you ask something like :

" tomorrow you have to play manchester united , are you sure you'll win " ?

i bet the large majority of the answer would be :

"no , you can never be sure when two top team play against"


then you can ask :

"playng a derby , the home team is favourite " ?

but , maybe , its better if you dont do this question , they can get you as a (fottball intended) retarded :O)

I agree.

Don't get me wrong, I'd love nothing more than to have won by 3 or 4 goals. Some of my happiest memories are City victories over the rags.

However, when all is taken into account then 1 point will suffice.

Indeed, I suspect most future derbies from here on in will be close, negative affairs, I expect a decade or so of 0-0, 1-1 and the odd 1-0 scorelines.

 

[SWP's back]

I'm happy with a point, Mancini and the tactics. We gave it a really good go at Old Trafford last year after a great start to the season, but we got beat, heads went down and then went on our drawing spree. In fact this season the only time I was slightly unhappy with the result was Wolves, but these things happen.

If you would have told me at this point of the season we would be fourth in the table, 4 points clear of the nearest team and 5 points ahead of Spuds and the red dippers, I would have snatched your hand off. Factor in that we have played all 5 of the other 'big six' team once. United are 3 points ahead, but they have not played the teams in first and third. If they win them both then Chelsea and Arsenal come back to us. If they lose one or both all the better.

Look at the next six games for each team

US - Birmingham, Fulham, Stoke, Bolton, West Ham, Everton.
Scum -Villa, Wigan, Blackburn, Blackpool, Arsenal, Chelsea.
Arsenal- Everton, Tottenham, Villa, Fulham, Man Utd, Stoke.
Chelsea - Sunderland, Birmingham, Newcastle, Everton, Spurs, ManUtd.

I feel we can pick up more points in these games than at least 2 of the other contenters to Christmas. I mean look at Arsenals fixtures, almost every one is a possible lost points if I was betting on the results.

We will be second or joint second by christmas, mark my words.

Great post, I hadn't seen the relative upcoming fixtures but that has cheered me up.

 

[Marvin]

Mancini knew if the game became open, United would come out winning. Thats why he couldnt let the team have a go at them, a point is still good result against United

You've not heard the news then mate? United are the PL soft touch, everyone beats them, they rarely finish in a position above any team of note and all their players are really poor.

The gutless are those that think there's an easy way round beating opponents like United and Arsenal who aren't going to lie down for anyone. And they end up screeching about Italians and defensive tactics.

 

[SWP's back]

Mancini knew if the game became open, United would come out winning. Thats why he couldnt let the team have a go at them, a point is still good result against United

You've not heard the news then mate? United are the PL soft touch, everyone beats them, they rarely finish in a position above any team of note and all their players are really poor.

+1<br /><br />-- Thu Nov 11, 2010 9:46 pm --<br /><br />

Very good point mate. Cannot argue with that. You have made me think. None.

(which if any mod is watching is how you debate as Billy has just shown by using reason, intelligence and persistance!)

I am still not pro or anti-Mancini, but I am happy so far with the table.

Could you answer my question a page or so back about taking this position and those teams relative to us back on Aug 1st for example, (what I am trying to get at is whether its what you have seen that puts you off or the results or both or neither).

leopards don't change their spots...you will revert to norm once you feel you have proven your point

Still not understanding how to stay on topic are you.

Ps you don't know the faintest thing about me.

Pps- you do Billy a great dis-service!

 

[oakiecokie]

I'm happy with a point, Mancini and the tactics. We gave it a really good go at Old Trafford last year after a great start to the season, but we got beat, heads went down and then went on our drawing spree. In fact this season the only time I was slightly unhappy with the result was Wolves, but these things happen.

If you would have told me at this point of the season we would be fourth in the table, 4 points clear of the nearest team and 5 points ahead of Spuds and the red dippers, I would have snatched your hand off. Factor in that we have played all 5 of the other 'big six' team once. United are 3 points ahead, but they have not played the teams in first and third. If they win them both then Chelsea and Arsenal come back to us. If they lose one or both all the better.

Look at the next six games for each team

US - Birmingham, Fulham, Stoke, Bolton, West Ham, Everton.
Scum -Villa, Wigan, Blackburn, Blackpool, Arsenal, Chelsea.
Arsenal- Everton, Tottenham, Villa, Fulham, Man Utd, Stoke.
Chelsea - Sunderland, Birmingham, Newcastle, Everton, Spurs, ManUtd.

I feel we can pick up more points in these games than at least 2 of the other contenters to Christmas. I mean look at Arsenals fixtures, almost every one is a possible lost points if I was betting on the results.

We will be second or joint second by christmas, mark my words.

Well spotted Epic !!
See every cloud etc ...
And I would bet that has been something that Bobby has been looking at and thinking "OK,maybe only a point against United,but in another 6-8 weeks,who knows"
I am convinced we will see more games like the WBA one and go for the jugular.
Patience fellow Blues !!

 

[TheMightyQuinn]

You've not heard the news then mate? United are the PL soft touch, everyone beats them, they rarely finish in a position above any team of note and all their players are really poor.

The gutless are those that think there's an easy way round beating opponents like United and Arsenal who aren't going to lie down for anyone. And they end up screeching about Italians and defensive tactics.

Exactly.

Of course, I wanted to smash them as much as anyone else. I hate them with a passion. However this doesn't change the fact that they're a well drilled unit who are unbeaten this season when all is said and done.

They might not be the best team in the country any more and their players may not have the profile of the Beckham's and Cantona's but they're still good, trophy winning players more than capable of taking the game to any other side in the world, as they prove most seasons in the CL.

I'm not bigging them up, I hope they're on the slide and I hate their very essence but facts are facts and unless we we're also expecting to beat Chelsea, Arsenal etc by scorelines of 3 or 4 then we have to respect the fact that they're a very hard team to beat and that sometimes a point is a point is a point.