Mancini you are gutless

[TheMightyQuinn]

Mancini knew if the game became open, United would come out winning. Thats why he couldnt let the team have a go at them, a point is still good result against United

You've not heard the news then mate? United are the PL soft touch, everyone beats them, they rarely finish in a position above any team of note and all their players are really poor.

 

[mammutly]

I'm happy with a point, Mancini and the tactics. We gave it a really good go at Old Trafford last year after a great start to the season, but we got beat, heads went down and then went on our drawing spree. In fact this season the only time I was slightly unhappy with the result was Wolves, but these things happen.

If you would have told me at this point of the season we would be fourth in the table, 4 points clear of the nearest team and 5 points ahead of Spuds and the red dippers, I would have snatched your hand off. Factor in that we have played all 5 of the other 'big six' team once. United are 3 points ahead, but they have not played the teams in first and third. If they win them both then Chelsea and Arsenal come back to us. If they lose one or both all the better.

Look at the next six games for each team

US - Birmingham, Fulham, Stoke, Bolton, West Ham, Everton.
Scum -Villa, Wigan, Blackburn, Blackpool, Arsenal, Chelsea.
Arsenal- Everton, Tottenham, Villa, Fulham, Man Utd, Stoke.
Chelsea - Sunderland, Birmingham, Newcastle, Everton, Spurs, ManUtd.

I feel we can pick up more points in these games than at least 2 of the other contenters to Christmas. I mean look at Arsenals fixtures, almost every one is a possible lost points if I was betting on the results.

We will be second or joint second by christmas, mark my words.

I agree completel and you spell it out very well. The season is not even a third over

People are generalising far too much from one game.

 

[Mancio]

Mancini knew if the game became open, United would come out winning. Thats why he couldnt let the team have a go at them, a point is still good result against United

You've not heard the news then mate? United are the PL soft touch, everyone beats them, they rarely finish in a position above any team of note and all their players are really poor.

if you go on a real madrid forum , or on a barca forum , or on a bayern forum , or on an inter forum , and you ask something like :

" tomorrow you have to play manchester united , are you sure you'll win " ?

i bet the large majority of the answer would be :

"no , you can never be sure when two top team play against"


then you can ask :

"playng a derby , the home team is favourite " ?

but , maybe , its better if you dont do this question , they can get you as a (fottball intended) retarded :O)

 

[shadygiz]

And that my friend, in my opinion, after nearly a year in charge, is not good enough...hence the fear that we're going to struggle in the final third of the season...

Another thing I want to pick you up on...you keep going on about how "we" should have learned by now about sacking managers over the last 30 years....just out of curiousity, which of that list of umpteen sacked managers went on to prove we were wrong to sack him?

Very good point mate. Cannot argue with that. You have made me think. None.

(which if any mod is watching is how you debate as Billy has just shown by using reason, intelligence and persistance!)

I am still not pro or anti-Mancini, but I am happy so far with the table.

Could you answer my question a page or so back about taking this position and those teams relative to us back on Aug 1st for example, (what I am trying to get at is whether its what you have seen that puts you off or the results or both or neither).

leopards don't change their spots...you will revert to norm once you feel you have proven your point

 

[TheMightyQuinn]

You've not heard the news then mate? United are the PL soft touch, everyone beats them, they rarely finish in a position above any team of note and all their players are really poor.

if you go on a real madrid forum , or on a barca forum , or on a bayern forum , or on an inter forum , and you ask something like :

" tomorrow you have to play manchester united , are you sure you'll win " ?

i bet the large majority of the answer would be :

"no , you can never be sure when two top team play against"


then you can ask :

"playng a derby , the home team is favourite " ?

but , maybe , its better if you dont do this question , they can get you as a (fottball intended) retarded :O)

I agree.

Don't get me wrong, I'd love nothing more than to have won by 3 or 4 goals. Some of my happiest memories are City victories over the rags.

However, when all is taken into account then 1 point will suffice.

Indeed, I suspect most future derbies from here on in will be close, negative affairs, I expect a decade or so of 0-0, 1-1 and the odd 1-0 scorelines.

 

[SWP's back]

I'm happy with a point, Mancini and the tactics. We gave it a really good go at Old Trafford last year after a great start to the season, but we got beat, heads went down and then went on our drawing spree. In fact this season the only time I was slightly unhappy with the result was Wolves, but these things happen.

If you would have told me at this point of the season we would be fourth in the table, 4 points clear of the nearest team and 5 points ahead of Spuds and the red dippers, I would have snatched your hand off. Factor in that we have played all 5 of the other 'big six' team once. United are 3 points ahead, but they have not played the teams in first and third. If they win them both then Chelsea and Arsenal come back to us. If they lose one or both all the better.

Look at the next six games for each team

US - Birmingham, Fulham, Stoke, Bolton, West Ham, Everton.
Scum -Villa, Wigan, Blackburn, Blackpool, Arsenal, Chelsea.
Arsenal- Everton, Tottenham, Villa, Fulham, Man Utd, Stoke.
Chelsea - Sunderland, Birmingham, Newcastle, Everton, Spurs, ManUtd.

I feel we can pick up more points in these games than at least 2 of the other contenters to Christmas. I mean look at Arsenals fixtures, almost every one is a possible lost points if I was betting on the results.

We will be second or joint second by christmas, mark my words.

Great post, I hadn't seen the relative upcoming fixtures but that has cheered me up.

 

[Marvin]

Mancini knew if the game became open, United would come out winning. Thats why he couldnt let the team have a go at them, a point is still good result against United

You've not heard the news then mate? United are the PL soft touch, everyone beats them, they rarely finish in a position above any team of note and all their players are really poor.

The gutless are those that think there's an easy way round beating opponents like United and Arsenal who aren't going to lie down for anyone. And they end up screeching about Italians and defensive tactics.

 

[SWP's back]

Mancini knew if the game became open, United would come out winning. Thats why he couldnt let the team have a go at them, a point is still good result against United

You've not heard the news then mate? United are the PL soft touch, everyone beats them, they rarely finish in a position above any team of note and all their players are really poor.

+1<br /><br />-- Thu Nov 11, 2010 9:46 pm --<br /><br />

Very good point mate. Cannot argue with that. You have made me think. None.

(which if any mod is watching is how you debate as Billy has just shown by using reason, intelligence and persistance!)

I am still not pro or anti-Mancini, but I am happy so far with the table.

Could you answer my question a page or so back about taking this position and those teams relative to us back on Aug 1st for example, (what I am trying to get at is whether its what you have seen that puts you off or the results or both or neither).

leopards don't change their spots...you will revert to norm once you feel you have proven your point

Still not understanding how to stay on topic are you.

Ps you don't know the faintest thing about me.

Pps- you do Billy a great dis-service!

 

[oakiecokie]

I'm happy with a point, Mancini and the tactics. We gave it a really good go at Old Trafford last year after a great start to the season, but we got beat, heads went down and then went on our drawing spree. In fact this season the only time I was slightly unhappy with the result was Wolves, but these things happen.

If you would have told me at this point of the season we would be fourth in the table, 4 points clear of the nearest team and 5 points ahead of Spuds and the red dippers, I would have snatched your hand off. Factor in that we have played all 5 of the other 'big six' team once. United are 3 points ahead, but they have not played the teams in first and third. If they win them both then Chelsea and Arsenal come back to us. If they lose one or both all the better.

Look at the next six games for each team

US - Birmingham, Fulham, Stoke, Bolton, West Ham, Everton.
Scum -Villa, Wigan, Blackburn, Blackpool, Arsenal, Chelsea.
Arsenal- Everton, Tottenham, Villa, Fulham, Man Utd, Stoke.
Chelsea - Sunderland, Birmingham, Newcastle, Everton, Spurs, ManUtd.

I feel we can pick up more points in these games than at least 2 of the other contenters to Christmas. I mean look at Arsenals fixtures, almost every one is a possible lost points if I was betting on the results.

We will be second or joint second by christmas, mark my words.

Well spotted Epic !!
See every cloud etc ...
And I would bet that has been something that Bobby has been looking at and thinking "OK,maybe only a point against United,but in another 6-8 weeks,who knows"
I am convinced we will see more games like the WBA one and go for the jugular.
Patience fellow Blues !!

 

[TheMightyQuinn]

You've not heard the news then mate? United are the PL soft touch, everyone beats them, they rarely finish in a position above any team of note and all their players are really poor.

The gutless are those that think there's an easy way round beating opponents like United and Arsenal who aren't going to lie down for anyone. And they end up screeching about Italians and defensive tactics.

Exactly.

Of course, I wanted to smash them as much as anyone else. I hate them with a passion. However this doesn't change the fact that they're a well drilled unit who are unbeaten this season when all is said and done.

They might not be the best team in the country any more and their players may not have the profile of the Beckham's and Cantona's but they're still good, trophy winning players more than capable of taking the game to any other side in the world, as they prove most seasons in the CL.

I'm not bigging them up, I hope they're on the slide and I hate their very essence but facts are facts and unless we we're also expecting to beat Chelsea, Arsenal etc by scorelines of 3 or 4 then we have to respect the fact that they're a very hard team to beat and that sometimes a point is a point is a point.

 

[Ducado]

Why does the OP only come on here to slag Mancini off?

I would have thought he would be in love with the guy after he gave his best mate a chance in the first team

 

[Mancio]

if you go on a real madrid forum , or on a barca forum , or on a bayern forum , or on an inter forum , and you ask something like :

" tomorrow you have to play manchester united , are you sure you'll win " ?

i bet the large majority of the answer would be :

"no , you can never be sure when two top team play against"


then you can ask :

"playng a derby , the home team is favourite " ?

but , maybe , its better if you dont do this question , they can get you as a (fottball intended) retarded :O)

I agree.

Don't get me wrong, I'd love nothing more than to have won by 3 or 4 goals. Some of my happiest memories are City victories over the rags.

However, when all is taken into account then 1 point will suffice.

Indeed, I suspect most future derbies from here on in will be close, negative affairs, I expect a decade or so of 0-0, 1-1 and the odd 1-0 scorelines.

i know mate , i can see how you are on the good sense side. my post have to be intended as confort of your posts. not any team ATM in the whole world can be sure to beat the rags in a day game , wich is very different from a marathon. and all (ALL) the football fans of this world weLL kown how in the town derbies the home factor DONT EXIST.

 

[Juddaman83]

Mancini you clueless idiot this what you should do: attack attack attack attack attack attack attack!
Shit they scored...
Mancini you clueless idiot why did you attack attack attack attack attack attack attack? You know what they're like...

This is normal for bluemoon, for sure.

 

[prima]

Possibly the most ridiculos post of the week, very dissapointing, less than a year in charge look where we are!!!! and how the envy of the rest of the PL is spewed out every day.

Get a grip.


CTID

prima

 

[mammutly]

Another angle on this has to be that teams like Utd, Chelsea and Arsenal have,for a long time, been pretty much as good it ever gets. There is no great margin above them that a team like us , or anybody else, can suddenly improve into.

It is only by fine edges of progress that we will become better than the current best. We have beaten Chelsea, given a great performance against Arsenal and drawn with Utd. I'd say we are pretty much on track.

 

[cleavers]

Mancini you clueless idiot this what you should do: attack attack attack attack attack attack attack!
Shit they scored...
Mancini you clueless idiot why did you attack attack attack attack attack attack attack? You know what they're like...

This is normal for bluemoon, for sure.

Sadly this is very true, but Bluemoon wouldn't be anything without some knee jerk would it.

I would implore those who are in the middle to post more.....give it some real balance.

 

[SWP's back]

Mancini you clueless idiot this what you should do: attack attack attack attack attack attack attack!
Shit they scored...
Mancini you clueless idiot why did you attack attack attack attack attack attack attack? You know what they're like...

This is normal for bluemoon, for sure.

Sadly this is very true, but Bluemoon wouldn't be anything without some knee jerk would it.

I would implore those who are in the middle to post more.....give it some real balance.

No, Mancini for president, then shoot him.

 

[mammutly]

Sadly this is very true, but Bluemoon wouldn't be anything without some knee jerk would it.

I would implore those who are in the middle to post more.....give it some real balance.

No, Mancini for president, then shoot him.

Don't you think we should shoot him now, just in case?

 

[hilts]

what a clown he is, we went for the win, yeah right.

makes Pearce look like Mourinho

havent read thru the whole thread as i cant be arsed with the moaning gits on here, those who have stuck up for our manager on here well done.

for the op though as a city fan to call a city manager gutless is out of order, we drew a game of football last night against a side with very good and experienced players, get a sense of perspective ffs your views are an embarrassment to city fans

 

[Palerider]

My thinking on this is quite clear. Every year we are told that to be sure of avoiding relegation then 40 pts is the target. That means that if you draw every game you are actually in danger of getting relegated ( 38 pts ). ie drawing games is relegation form. In each match there are 3 pts on offer except for the draw where only two are offered, one for each side. If you assume that City are one of the better sides in the country and at home at least a fair match for United then in theory if we tried to actually beat United over 3 matches we would have won one, lost one and drawn one. That would give us 4pts over 3 games as opposed to 3pts over 3 games for 3 draws. I know that all sounds convoluted if anyone is still reading but playing for a draw is bordering on stupidity. You could draw 9 matches on the trot but get exactly the same number of points from 3 wins and 6 losses. 9 games unbeaten sounds better but it is'nt. You simply have to play to win. Nothing else makes any sense.