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karen7 said:
simon23 said:
we seem to have gone from the "most patient fans in the world" to the exact opposite.

Do people really expect us to win something every year? Are people that arrogant and unrealistic.

That is why football is better than any other on this planet...because it is so unpredictable......the best team doesnt always win.

Wenger hasnt won anything for 7-8 seasons yet he is still at arsenal...

I expect us to compete every year for everything and we have.....

we are unexperienced in europe and came up against 2 very very good teams in madrid and dortmund.......i wouldnt have expected us to get through that group

we messed up in the league cup by trying to play a weaker team but lots of managers to do that and sometimes it works to a point other times it deosnt therefore i dont think its particularly right to hold this against mancnini

as for the league...it isnt over yet (I know we havent got a chance of catching utd) but we are still second......we havent managed to defend our title but we will try and win it back next year.......and the year after that and the year after that...we might get it we might not but id happily keep mancini for the next few seasons regardless because i know that he has had us playing the best football ive seen in watching city for over 30 years......
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But Wenger hasn't had unlimited funding like Mancini.

I don't expect us to win everything every year, but what I do expect as a minimum is for us to put up a fight in the league. Yesterday I reckon the chap who was stretching with the players in the warm up would probably have shown more commitment and fight than half of the first team.
 
mat said:
Remind me where are we in the league and FA cup again?

some might say .... struggling to keep hold of 2nd and haven't won the cup yet .... definitely not progress.

Zenit probably have a bit of money, have some good players, so could be a desirable challenge for Mancini as i think tensions at City are gonna make him and the club think is it time for a fresh start all round?
 
simon23 said:
we seem to have gone from the "most patient fans in the world" to the exact opposite.

Do people really expect us to win something every year? Are people that arrogant and unrealistic.

That is why football is better than any other on this planet...because it is so unpredictable......the best team doesnt always win.

Wenger hasnt won anything for 7-8 seasons yet he is still at arsenal...

I expect us to compete every year for everything and we have.....

we are unexperienced in europe and came up against 2 very very good teams in madrid and dortmund.......i wouldnt have expected us to get through that group

we messed up in the league cup by trying to play a weaker team but lots of managers to do that and sometimes it works to a point other times it deosnt therefore i dont think its particularly right to hold this against mancnini

as for the league...it isnt over yet (I know we havent got a chance of catching utd) but we are still second......we havent managed to defend our title but we will try and win it back next year.......and the year after that and the year after that...we might get it we might not but id happily keep mancini for the next few seasons regardless because i know that he has had us playing the best football ive seen in watching city for over 30 years......
He had for the start of last season and the finish of it. Rarely this season have we gotten close to that level. What I find hard to understand is what do the pro mancini camp think will happen if there was a parting of the ways? Do they think we will suddenly become just another mid table team who rarely challenge for anything? That is not going to happen regardless of who is in charge. We are here to stay either way!
 
Blumers Bloomers said:
karen7 said:
simon23 said:
we seem to have gone from the "most patient fans in the world" to the exact opposite.

Do people really expect us to win something every year? Are people that arrogant and unrealistic.

That is why football is better than any other on this planet...because it is so unpredictable......the best team doesnt always win.

Wenger hasnt won anything for 7-8 seasons yet he is still at arsenal...

I expect us to compete every year for everything and we have.....

we are unexperienced in europe and came up against 2 very very good teams in madrid and dortmund.......i wouldnt have expected us to get through that group

we messed up in the league cup by trying to play a weaker team but lots of managers to do that and sometimes it works to a point other times it deosnt therefore i dont think its particularly right to hold this against mancnini

as for the league...it isnt over yet (I know we havent got a chance of catching utd) but we are still second......we havent managed to defend our title but we will try and win it back next year.......and the year after that and the year after that...we might get it we might not but id happily keep mancini for the next few seasons regardless because i know that he has had us playing the best football ive seen in watching city for over 30 years......
this

But Wenger hasn't had unlimited funding like Mancini.

I don't expect us to win everything every year, but what I do expect as a minimum is for us to put up a fight in the league. Yesterday I reckon the chap who was stretching with the players in the warm up would probably have shown more commitment and fight than half of the first team.

This is what its about for me. I can accept we may not win the league, I can accept that we may not win the FA Cup. What I find difficult to accept are the insipid performances we have seen on more than a few occasions this season. It smacks of a manager not able to motivate the (mostly) world class players at his disposal. That is where my (personal) issue with Mancini lies.
 
blueinsa said:
simon23 said:
blueinsa said:
We have conceded our title with almost a third of the season still to play.

Thats not acceptable!

will u not get over it?.....can u not handle it?......

man up!!!!

The difference is I wont make up shit excuses and I certainly wont accept a squad of players with so much potential suddenly looking so devoid of ideas and fight when its most needed.

Come up against an Everton once and get taught a lesson, fair enough but time and time again we, or rather Bob just doesn't seem to learn his lessons.

Why is that?

you overestimate some of our squad and fail to take into consdieration other teams are going to get stronger as well.....

rm changed his way of playing yesterday from previous encounters....ok it didnt work but he tried another way........everton are a good team who for some reason raise their game against us more than any other team......we are still above them in the league so over the course of a season who is the better team/manager?
 
80s Shorts said:
Did we lose a game ?

how very dare we.

Need to see the bigger picture. Away form recently abysmal. CL capitulation. Fortuitous Cup draw has seen us progress nicely but masks the underlying problems. Tactics and player selection questionable.
 
greasedupdeafguy said:
mat said:
greasedupdeafguy said:
The only person to blame is himself for his shite signings and tactics this season.


Remind me where are we in the league and FA cup again?
We're second but thats hardly anything to shout about considering the investment and the squad of players we have available, we should be much closer to 1st place than we are now. We've had an easy ride in the Fa Cup luckily playing three championship sides, great if we win it and will bring some light at the end of a poor season but we still are a long way from winning it.

15 points is a lot of points but its 5 games. If a win was only 1 point then we would need only 5 points to catch up..

I will continue to believe we can catch up til its mathematically impossible for us not too.
 
simon23 said:
blueinsa said:
simon23 said:
will u not get over it?.....can u not handle it?......

man up!!!!

The difference is I wont make up shit excuses and I certainly wont accept a squad of players with so much potential suddenly looking so devoid of ideas and fight when its most needed.

Come up against an Everton once and get taught a lesson, fair enough but time and time again we, or rather Bob just doesn't seem to learn his lessons.

Why is that?

you overestimate some of our squad and fail to take into consdieration other teams are going to get stronger as well.....

rm changed his way of playing yesterday from previous encounters....ok it didnt work but he tried another way........everton are a good team who for some reason raise their game against us more than any other team......we are still above them in the league so over the course of a season who is the better team/manager?
Is this a serious question? are you really comparing a club that spend nothing every season and club that has spent 300 mill plus over the past few seasons.

Just look at Mancinis record vs Everton.
 
simon23 said:
blueinsa said:
simon23 said:
will u not get over it?.....can u not handle it?......

man up!!!!

The difference is I wont make up shit excuses and I certainly wont accept a squad of players with so much potential suddenly looking so devoid of ideas and fight when its most needed.

Come up against an Everton once and get taught a lesson, fair enough but time and time again we, or rather Bob just doesn't seem to learn his lessons.

Why is that?

you overestimate some of our squad and fail to take into consdieration other teams are going to get stronger as well.....

rm changed his way of playing yesterday from previous encounters....ok it didnt work but he tried another way........everton are a good team who for some reason raise their game against us more than any other team......we are still above them in the league so over the course of a season who is the better team/manager?

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samharris said:
greasedupdeafguy said:
mat said:
Remind me where are we in the league and FA cup again?
We're second but thats hardly anything to shout about considering the investment and the squad of players we have available, we should be much closer to 1st place than we are now. We've had an easy ride in the Fa Cup luckily playing three championship sides, great if we win it and will bring some light at the end of a poor season but we still are a long way from winning it.

15 points is a lot of points but its 5 games. If a win was only 1 point then we would need only 5 points to catch up..

I will continue to believe we can catch up til its mathematically impossible for us not too.

i support most of what you say sam but give it up on retaining the title.its staying in 2nd and fa cup only
 
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