Mancini

[grim up north]

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But Wenger hasn't had unlimited funding like Mancini.

I don't expect us to win everything every year, but what I do expect as a minimum is for us to put up a fight in the league. Yesterday I reckon the chap who was stretching with the players in the warm up would probably have shown more commitment and fight than half of the first team.

This is what its about for me. I can accept we may not win the league, I can accept that we may not win the FA Cup. What I find difficult to accept are the insipid performances we have seen on more than a few occasions this season. It smacks of a manager not able to motivate the (mostly) world class players at his disposal. That is where my (personal) issue with Mancini lies.

are insipid performances entirely down to the manager, why would highly paid top class professionals need motivating

 

[simon23]

we seem to have gone from the "most patient fans in the world" to the exact opposite.

Do people really expect us to win something every year? Are people that arrogant and unrealistic.

That is why football is better than any other on this planet...because it is so unpredictable......the best team doesnt always win.

Wenger hasnt won anything for 7-8 seasons yet he is still at arsenal...

I expect us to compete every year for everything and we have.....

we are unexperienced in europe and came up against 2 very very good teams in madrid and dortmund.......i wouldnt have expected us to get through that group

we messed up in the league cup by trying to play a weaker team but lots of managers to do that and sometimes it works to a point other times it deosnt therefore i dont think its particularly right to hold this against mancnini

as for the league...it isnt over yet (I know we havent got a chance of catching utd) but we are still second......we havent managed to defend our title but we will try and win it back next year.......and the year after that and the year after that...we might get it we might not but id happily keep mancini for the next few seasons regardless because i know that he has had us playing the best football ive seen in watching city for over 30 years......

He had for the start of last season and the finish of it. Rarely this season have we gotten close to that level. What I find hard to understand is what do the pro mancini camp think will happen if there was a parting of the ways? Do they think we will suddenly become just another mid table team who rarely challenge for anything? That is not going to happen regardless of who is in charge. We are here to stay either way!

I think it would mean starting again in stead of building on what we have.....i think it would also be a notch on the rag media's bed post to get mancini sacked.....they are scarred of his cause he isnt scarred of fergie.

And then they would just start all over again on the new manager after a few months of grace period....

 

[blueinsa]

you overestimate some of our squad and fail to take into consdieration other teams are going to get stronger as well.....

Who has assembled this squad and please lets not go down the road of claiming its still not Bob's.

I always expect other teams to improve and funnily enough, i thought we would as well.....seems i was wrong to think that way as we have clearly regressed this season.

Will the world end? No, but it will get discussed on here and football being the business it is now, you can bet your bottom dollar that someone will end up carrying the can!

 

[Bluemoon115]

this

But Wenger hasn't had unlimited funding like Mancini.

I don't expect us to win everything every year, but what I do expect as a minimum is for us to put up a fight in the league. Yesterday I reckon the chap who was stretching with the players in the warm up would probably have shown more commitment and fight than half of the first team.

This is what its about for me. I can accept we may not win the league, I can accept that we may not win the FA Cup. What I find difficult to accept are the insipid performances we have seen on more than a few occasions this season. It smacks of a manager not able to motivate the (mostly) world class players at his disposal. That is where my (personal) issue with Mancini lies.

Exactly.

It's the manner in which we've failed in 3/4 competitions this season. But that seems to go over many peoples heads, who resort to the usual "Lost a game have we/should win every game 10 - 0" sarcastic bullshit.

 

[samharris]

We're second but thats hardly anything to shout about considering the investment and the squad of players we have available, we should be much closer to 1st place than we are now. We've had an easy ride in the Fa Cup luckily playing three championship sides, great if we win it and will bring some light at the end of a poor season but we still are a long way from winning it.

15 points is a lot of points but its 5 games. If a win was only 1 point then we would need only 5 points to catch up..

I will continue to believe we can catch up til its mathematically impossible for us not too.

i support most of what you say sam but give it up on retaining the title.its staying in 2nd and fa cup only

Careful Karen youll get accused of having a losing mentality..

 

[kaz7]

best reason not to sack him..fergie wants the scalp of the man who beat him so he can say he has seen off another manager,imagine how smug he would be

 

[waspish]

We are DOOOOMED DOOOOOMED ID SAY

 

[grim up north]

But Wenger hasn't had unlimited funding like Mancini.

I don't expect us to win everything every year, but what I do expect as a minimum is for us to put up a fight in the league. Yesterday I reckon the chap who was stretching with the players in the warm up would probably have shown more commitment and fight than half of the first team.

This is what its about for me. I can accept we may not win the league, I can accept that we may not win the FA Cup. What I find difficult to accept are the insipid performances we have seen on more than a few occasions this season. It smacks of a manager not able to motivate the (mostly) world class players at his disposal. That is where my (personal) issue with Mancini lies.

Exactly.

It's the manner in which we've failed in 3/4 competitions this season. But that seems to go over many peoples heads, who resort to the usual "Lost a game have we/should win every game 10 - 0" sarcastic bullshit.

do you expect to win every game.

 

[greasedupdeafguy]

we seem to have gone from the "most patient fans in the world" to the exact opposite.

Do people really expect us to win something every year? Are people that arrogant and unrealistic.

That is why football is better than any other on this planet...because it is so unpredictable......the best team doesnt always win.

Wenger hasnt won anything for 7-8 seasons yet he is still at arsenal...

I expect us to compete every year for everything and we have.....

we are unexperienced in europe and came up against 2 very very good teams in madrid and dortmund.......i wouldnt have expected us to get through that group

we messed up in the league cup by trying to play a weaker team but lots of managers to do that and sometimes it works to a point other times it deosnt therefore i dont think its particularly right to hold this against mancnini

as for the league...it isnt over yet (I know we havent got a chance of catching utd) but we are still second......we havent managed to defend our title but we will try and win it back next year.......and the year after that and the year after that...we might get it we might not but id happily keep mancini for the next few seasons regardless because i know that he has had us playing the best football ive seen in watching city for over 30 years......

He had for the start of last season and the finish of it. Rarely this season have we gotten close to that level. What I find hard to understand is what do the pro mancini camp think will happen if there was a parting of the ways? Do they think we will suddenly become just another mid table team who rarely challenge for anything? That is not going to happen regardless of who is in charge. We are here to stay either way!

I think it would mean starting again in stead of building on what we have.....i think it would also be a notch on the rag media's bed post to get mancini sacked.....they are scarred of his cause he isnt scarred of fergie.

And then they would just start all over again on the new manager after a few months of grace period....

The only thing united fans will be scared of is us hiring Mourinho, they will be praying we stick with Mancini.

 

[simon23]

The difference is I wont make up shit excuses and I certainly wont accept a squad of players with so much potential suddenly looking so devoid of ideas and fight when its most needed.

Come up against an Everton once and get taught a lesson, fair enough but time and time again we, or rather Bob just doesn't seem to learn his lessons.

Why is that?

you overestimate some of our squad and fail to take into consdieration other teams are going to get stronger as well.....

rm changed his way of playing yesterday from previous encounters....ok it didnt work but he tried another way........everton are a good team who for some reason raise their game against us more than any other team......we are still above them in the league so over the course of a season who is the better team/manager?

Is this a serious question? are you really comparing a club that spend nothing every season and club that has spent 300 mill plus over the past few seasons.

Just look at Mancinis record vs Everton.

look at mancinis record for trophies since he has been at city compared to moyes....managers are judged on what they win not on individual battles against certain teams........mancini has won the fa cup, the league title and the charity shield.....moyes has won NOTHING!!!!!

compare the style of football the two teams play........id have mancini every time even if it means that we lose to everton ever season.....

moyes with us wouldnt have the same success in my opinion....you never know we may able to test this theory out soon cause it hink moyes is one of the possible candidates for the utd job if and when fergie goes