Mancini

[grim up north]

Exactly.

It's the manner in which we've failed in 3/4 competitions this season. But that seems to go over many peoples heads, who resort to the usual "Lost a game have we/should win every game 10 - 0" sarcastic bullshit.

do you expect to win every game.

Have you just ignored my post completely?

This isn't about one game in isolation. It's about being fifteen points behind the red shite, out of the League Cup after facing the worst Villa side in years, out of the CL on record low points for an English side, it's about the arrogance and attitude of Mancini refusing to accept he's getting things wrong, his refusal to change things when they do go wrong, his blaming everything and everyone around him etc.

And to answer your irrelevant question, not every game, but I expect we should be able to win ANY game.

yes i read your post

 

[abu13]

At the start of the season we were champions, we had beaten the rags home and away demolished them 6-1 in thier own back yard.

We had the best defence in the league, the best attack in the league. Arguably the best squad in the league.

If you had to pick back in August that one of Bobbie or whiskey nose would be heading for the exit this year i think most would have gone for the pisscan.

The fact is that he looked at his squad, identified the problems and addressed them.

We didn't.

We are getting exactly what we deserve this year, fail to plan you plan to fail

 

[blueinsa]

this

But Wenger hasn't had unlimited funding like Mancini.

I don't expect us to win everything every year, but what I do expect as a minimum is for us to put up a fight in the league. Yesterday I reckon the chap who was stretching with the players in the warm up would probably have shown more commitment and fight than half of the first team.

The unlimited funding which saw us fail to land ANY of Mancinis targets in the transfer window ?

A title winning squad that still had nearly £40m invested into it?

 

[city51]

This is what its about for me. I can accept we may not win the league, I can accept that we may not win the FA Cup. What I find difficult to accept are the insipid performances we have seen on more than a few occasions this season. It smacks of a manager not able to motivate the (mostly) world class players at his disposal. That is where my (personal) issue with Mancini lies.

Exactly.

It's the manner in which we've failed in 3/4 competitions this season. But that seems to go over many peoples heads, who resort to the usual "Lost a game have we/should win every game 10 - 0" sarcastic bullshit.

do you expect to win every game.

Yes

 

[grim up north]

But Wenger hasn't had unlimited funding like Mancini.

I don't expect us to win everything every year, but what I do expect as a minimum is for us to put up a fight in the league. Yesterday I reckon the chap who was stretching with the players in the warm up would probably have shown more commitment and fight than half of the first team.

The unlimited funding which saw us fail to land ANY of Mancinis targets in the transfer window ?

A title winning squad that still had nearly £40m invested into it?

.

 

[Exeter Blue I am here]

Correct. At the start of this season, even with the Rags buying RvP, there should have been a very good case for saying that we still had the best strike-force in the league - in fact I'm sure I saw people say it on this forum - but we have struggled for goals. To have four top strikers failing to score frequently suggests that the issue goes beyond poor individual form.

yet we are still second in the table.

So you keep saying and let's hope we stay there. I know one supporter who thinks we are in danger of dropping down to 5th because Arsenal have such an easy run in.

The fact that we are second now is no cause for great praise to Mancini. We are 15 points behind the Rags. We are the reigning champions. We have the most expensively assembled and arguably best squad in the league. Our title defence crumbled at the first Derby. Being second with our resources is not a significant achievement.

I know it's me you're referring to OB1, because of my post on the Hatter site, but, yes, you're right, I do fear we may drop down to 5th, even allowing for Spurs surprise defeat today. Arsenal are effectively 3 wins behind us, and their run-in is a cakewalk. Their only real test is a home game against the rags, which will be a dead rubber anyway, 3 games from the end of the season. I would fully expect Taggart to field a weakened side as the chance to put a stick in our spokes would be one he would relish, both personally and in terms of weakening a competitor. Other than that, they face an 8 game diet of Sunderland's, Norwich's, Reading's and Fulham's.
It may be an unlikely scenario, but given that I fully expect us to get nothing out of our trips to the rags, Spurs and Swansea, and especially if Aguero and Kompers are still out, there's certainly no room for complacency. Mancini has looked bereft of ideas every time we've faced either a parked bus (QPR, Reading) or a high press (Madrid, Liverpool, Dortmund, Southampton, Everton) this season, and with real pressure on us to win all of our remaining home games, which admittedly we should, it will only take one of those sides employing either of those tactics to give us a very real problem. Our whole future is mortgaged against qualifying for that damned competition and the consequences of missing out don't bear thinking of.
For me Mancini has to go in the summer. It may be a gamble, but this is his squad assembled at huge expense and, our best XI aside, its shortcomings are becoming ever more readily apparent. If he stays then I fear we will be mulling over the same early European exit and clueless defeats on Merseyside etc this time next year again

 

[80s Shorts]

But Wenger hasn't had unlimited funding like Mancini.

I don't expect us to win everything every year, but what I do expect as a minimum is for us to put up a fight in the league. Yesterday I reckon the chap who was stretching with the players in the warm up would probably have shown more commitment and fight than half of the first team.

The unlimited funding which saw us fail to land ANY of Mancinis targets in the transfer window ?

A title winning squad that still had nearly £40m invested into it?

What point are you making or which question are you answering. The poster stated that Mancini had unlimited funds at his disposal. Self evidently untrue.

 

[mackenzie]

To be honest I can't wait for this season to end, and to wait and see what happens in the summer.
Our inconsistency was there right from the beginning this time and we have never really got into gear. Whether that was a hangover from the way last season ended or what I've no idea, but some of our key players have looked less fluent and a little jaded on more than one occasion (the only first team regular I exempt from that is Zab).
I still think that if we win the FAC though that the season would, and should, be deemed a 'success.'
I think I've always known though that Mancini has his faults, and that these have cost us at times. However, I still love him to bits and won't be sad at all if he stays for at least one more season. And if RVP carries his shite form into next season then it could be a different story.

 

[greasedupdeafguy]

The unlimited funding which saw us fail to land ANY of Mancinis targets in the transfer window ?

A title winning squad that still had nearly £40m invested into it?

.

Like how he wanted RVP yet he had already spent 100 million plus on strikers in the previous two seasons.

 

[Bluemoon115]

do you expect to win every game.

Have you just ignored my post completely?

This isn't about one game in isolation. It's about being fifteen points behind the red shite, out of the League Cup after facing the worst Villa side in years, out of the CL on record low points for an English side, it's about the arrogance and attitude of Mancini refusing to accept he's getting things wrong, his refusal to change things when they do go wrong, his blaming everything and everyone around him etc.

And to answer your irrelevant question, not every game, but I expect we should be able to win ANY game.

yes i read your post

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