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i've been doing a lot of thinking lately and if mourinho, pelegrini, klopp, laudrup were to become available then i'd be happy enough to see them replace bob.

whether that makes me an outer or not i dunno, but i'm certainly on the fence.
 
St Helens Blue (Exiled) said:
Didsbury Dave said:
Right. That's about the fourth time you've insinuated that those wanting Mancini out don't go to matches or have only just started going.

I want Mancini out.

Lets hear how long you've been going and how many games, home and away, you've attended over that period. Just to put a bit of context on your insinuations, of course.

Dave..you know i am not referring to the likes of you pal.

In answer to your question...29yrs of my 39..
Fair enough mate but you are doing a disservice to a lot of passionate and time served blues in this discussion by labelling them all in the way you are doing.
 
OB1 said:
Exeter Blue I am here said:
OB1 said:
Who are you referring to then, Pal?

I for instance have been a season ticket holder longer than you've been alive. 40 consecutive seasons, despite living in Oxfordshire for the last 22 of those, despite dropping into the third tier of English football. Virtually every frigging game is like an away game for me.

Just shut the #### up with the boring crap about people who think a change of manager might be a improvement not being proper supporters.

This.....even though he's from Oxfordshire....and a girl.....and wears flares

You forgot the six inch platforms and kabuki style face paint.

I haven't actually seen you in that, and I didn't like to speculate. Perhaps you could wear it to the Green Man when you buy me that pint ;)
 
The cookie monster said:
Prestwich_Blue said:
George Hannah said:
the antis wouldn't fill a single row
Of the dozen or so I'll be going down to Wembley with I don't know one who doesn't have significant doubts about Mancini.
Yes but do they hate him p.b.
Do they call him a ****,clown,waste of space & stealing for a living?
You mean like many on here did with Hughes?

I don't believe they hate him and why should they after winning the PL and FA cup? But they think that he isn't good enough to take us to the next (and ultimate) level of regularly being in serious contention for the PL and CL.
 
I wonder if Bluemoon was around in 1969 when we were mulling around mid table averageness and finishing 13th as champions whether there'd be so much talk about Joe Mercer not being good enough?; or if Bluemoon was around in 1938 when we were mulling around bottom of the table shitness and getting relegated as champions whether there'd be so much talk about Wilf Wild not being good enough?
 
waspish said:
Do you want a manager who wins trophies?

Irrespective of his tactics man management and his beliefs in how he thinks football should be played?!

No, I personally want a manager who has the right ethos for the club we are and the club we're trying to be. When you get given the type of playing resources any City manager under the ADUG regime will get, trophies are to some extent a given whether you like it or not. And no I'm not saying that anyone could have won the trophies Mancini has, I'm saying that winning trophies with the quality of players at our club (just as at Chelsea, United, Madrid, Barca, Bayern, etc. etc.) is a given.

What we need IMO is someone who has the capacity to motivate and inspire the players to continually play at the top of their game. It's not possible to play at the highest level every week, but to have a chance at getting close you need a manager who instills in his players the belief that his system is infallible and as long as they get on board, they will win.

Next is the style of play ... I'd hazard a guess AD aren't interested in a functional trophy winning team which neither inspires nor captures the imagination but which wins. That type of thinking is acceptable when your resources are limited, but I suspect again with the resources made available to a City manager, that style will be an important factor.

Finally there's the question of politics. City require a manager who is the embodiment of the club and who's first loyalty is to the club. To start fires because you don't have the players you want, or because you can't get along with a club doctor or a club scout, and to publicly wage war with these people is IMO the antithesis of what City want to be about. It's the one big negative against Mourinho's name, and one which Txiki and Ferran are all to aware of. However it's also something which Mancini has let himself down with time and time again.

The right manager doesn't have to be a proven trophy winner, so long as he ticks all the other boxes and the powers that be think with City he'll win trophies. It may well be viewed as a risk from the outside, but everyone involved gets paid a whole heap of money to trust and back their own judgment.
 
St Helens Blue (Exiled) said:
The cookie monster said:
The Flash said:
Nah - they're too busy making their "Mancini Out" banners and coming up with new chants for the next home game.

Mancini - whoa-oah, Mancini - whoa-oah
He came from Italy,
His tactics upset me,
Mancini! Whoa-oah


Sung loud and proud no doubt as everyone around them feels the same.....

I wonder which stand the outers are going to unveil their banners....

Do they actually go Cookie? To unveil their banners they would have to attend rather than be an armchair.Saying that they may unveil them down the front of their houses.
My tin hat is firmly donned..

Mancini woaaahhhhh Mnacini woaaahhhhh he comes from Italy........Sung loud and proud by 47000 last league game I went to.

SHB- why do you have this belief people who question Mancini aren't match going fans? Just because they don't share your belief, doesn't mean they don't go to games.

You have suggested before that it tends to be younger fans who doubt him, and used me as an eg as you thought I was 19, I'm actually 24.

I go week in week out, have done for years. I go to aways and Europe. On fact, my first game was the 2-2 against lpool that saw us relegated.

I just don't know why you have this staunch, patronising belief that people who want Mancini out seemingly aren't proper fans....?
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
The cookie monster said:
Prestwich_Blue said:
Of the dozen or so I'll be going down to Wembley with I don't know one who doesn't have significant doubts about Mancini.
Yes but do they hate him p.b.
Do they call him a ****,clown,waste of space & stealing for a living?
You mean like many on here did with Hughes?

I don't believe they hate him and why should they after winning the PL and FA cup? But they think that he isn't good enough to take us to the next (and ultimate) level of regularly being in serious contention for the PL and CL.

P'b of course everyone is entitled to their opinion on mancini
I just think the abuse he has had on here is unwarranted.
 
Caveman said:
I wonder if Bluemoon was around in 1969 when we were mulling around mid table averageness and finishing 13th as champions whether there'd be so much talk about Joe Mercer not being good enough?; or if Bluemoon was around in 1938 when we were mulling around bottom of the table shitness and getting relegated as champions whether there'd be so much talk about Wilf Wild not being good enough?

Apparenly we have a divine right to win the league now. Sound familiar ?

Mercer out!
 
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