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it's football and even the best team in the world will lose games and have periods of inconsistency

the best manager in the world will make mistakes and get his tactics wrong sometimes

Mancini should be judged on his record and his record so far is excellent (Europe aside). Europe may well ultimately be his undoing but he has earned another shot at it for me and many others. If next season panned out the same as this then I would understand the view that he may have taken us as far as he is able and would understand the owners thinking that a Mourinho, or similar, might take us up another gear.

But not before and even then I personally would need to be persuaded that a Chelsea-esque managerial rotation policy is the best way forward for the club and change brings no guarantees. I think he's earned some patience and we've earned some stability.
 
Balti said:
it's football and even the best team in the world will lose games and have periods of inconsistency

the best manager in the world will make mistakes and get his tactics wrong sometimes

Mancini should be judged on his record and his record so far is excellent (Europe aside). Europe may well ultimately be his undoing but he has earned another shot at it for me and many others. If next season panned out the same as this then I would understand the view that he may have taken us as far as he is able and would understand the owners thinking that a Mourinho, or similar, might take us up another gear.

But not before and even then I personally would need to be persuaded that a Chelsea-esque managerial rotation policy is the best way forward for the club and change brings no guarantees. I think he's earned some patience and we've earned some stability.


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Balti said:
(Europe aside)

He's a great architect. Unless he needs to build a building with more than one floor.

Absolutely tragic the way some people brush aside Mancini's incompetence in Europe as some inconsequential thing which isn't at all important.
 
The cookie monster said:
OB1 said:
The cookie monster said:
P'b of course everyone is entitled to their opinion on mancini
I just think the abuse he has had on here is unwarranted.


But you think it is warranted to effectively abuse people on here by completely misrepresenting their views and taking the p!ss? Just because they do not share your view.

Also, what do define as abuse? I've not seen much abuse of Mancini but I have seen plenty of considered criticism.

Are you serious?


I'll answer your question if you answer mine.
 
I've said all along that I think he should get another year and I can't help wondering what sort of season this might have been had the summer window gone the way Mancini wanted it to. I don't think we've been bad this season but neither have we hits the heights we did at times last year.Given the total exhilaration we all felt last year perhaps this season was always going to have an element of comedown about it. We hurt Utd and they have come out fighting and it seems we were not able to stay the pace this time around ( I can't totally give it up though...always the optimist) so if we end up with nothing or even a cup I still would like to see what Roberto could achieve with the type and quality of players he wants.
 
BillyShears said:
Balti said:
(Europe aside)

He's a great architect. Unless he needs to build a building with more than one floor.

Absolutely tragic the way some people brush aside Mancini's incompetence in Europe as some inconsequential thing which isn't at all important.

I believe I said that Europe may ultimately be his undoing.

Hardly brushing it aside.

I just don't subscribe to the instant success philosophy that some people preach.
 
Balti said:
I just don't subscribe to the instant success philosophy that some people preach.

I almost apologised until I read that crap.
 
Balti said:
it's football and even the best team in the world will lose games and have periods of inconsistency

the best manager in the world will make mistakes and get his tactics wrong sometimes

Mancini should be judged on his record and his record so far is excellent (Europe aside). Europe may well ultimately be his undoing but he has earned another shot at it for me and many others. If next season panned out the same as this then I would understand the view that he may have taken us as far as he is able and would understand the owners thinking that a Mourinho, or similar, might take us up another gear.

But not before and even then I personally would need to be persuaded that a Chelsea-esque managerial rotation policy is the best way forward for the club and change brings no guarantees. I think he's earned some patience and we've earned some stability.

I understand where you are coming from. His record with trophies for us so far, is, very good. We had a brilliant spell which spanned the end of the 10/11 season to half way through the 11/12 season. This was about 25 games, and we played fantastic football. He's got to be congratulated for that.



I don't know why getting rid of Mancini would be Chelsea esque...? Especially if it was to happen next season. Recently Chelsea had Ancelotti for 2 years, AVB for a matter of months, Di Matteo for a matter of months, Rafa for a matter of months.

We are not sacking Mancini, like Chelsea sack managers.
 
dancity19 said:
I don't know why getting rid of Mancini would be Chelsea esque...?

It's another nonsensical over exaggeration to try and give his opinion more perceived gravitas.

I've got plenty of time for people who think Mancini deserves more time. You only need to say that "he's won 2 trophies, he deserves another season" and I find it hard to argue. I disagree but I can't argue against it. It's the random application of nonsense about Chelsea, or about Europe being unimportant, or that those who want Mancini out do so because they want "instant" anything. It's just all a big pile of horseshit piled on top of an opinion to give the effect of the moral high ground.
 
BillyShears said:
dancity19 said:
I don't know why getting rid of Mancini would be Chelsea esque...?

It's another nonsensical over exaggeration to try and give his opinion more perceived gravitas.

I've got plenty of time for people who think Mancini deserves more time. You only need to say that "he's won 2 trophies, he deserves another season" and I find it hard to argue. I disagree but I can't argue against it. It's the random application of nonsense about Chelsea, or about Europe being unimportant, or that those who want Mancini out do so because they want "instant" anything. It's just all a big pile of horseshit piled on top of an opinion to give the effect of the moral high ground.

"Horseshit" or you just find it diifficult to argue against? Afteralll Europe is your big stick. Perhaps some of us are willing to wait a little longer for success - doesn't mean it's "horseshit."
 
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