St Helens Blue (Exiled) said:Is everyone going to the newcastle game a week on saturday??
:-)
I don't know if they are connected. I wouldn't want to comment and I doubt Dr Batty would make such a claim without having specific knowledge.Prestwich_Blue said:Let's take this a little further then. If I was Soriano or Khaldoon, asked that question and got those responses, I'd be tempted to say that if the referee had got all the big decisions right we'd have got a penalty but so would they and the Mirallas goal would have been allowed. So we might have lost 4-1.Marvin said:I suspect they'd also be a little angry at the referee's decision-making and regretting the absence of the Captain, Yaya Toure, and Aguero. Do you think Mancini was happy? He was reportedly too angry to speak.Prestwich_Blue said:I can tell you, as a 100% nailed-on fact, that our owners are not great believers in the concept of a bit of bad luck. Certainly not when it seems to be happening a bit too frequently.
And as for the injuries, if told that I'd accept they have to be a factor to some degree, but would ask if the run of injuries could have anything to do with Mancini's petulant sacking of the highly respected Dr Batty last summer. From having the best injury record last season, we've gone to having one of the worst. Aguero, Kompany and Rodwell have clearly all come back before they're 100% ready. RM was quoted at the time as saying "I only trust my own doctor" and look where that has got us.
BillyShears said:waspish said:Do you want a manager who wins trophies?
Irrespective of his tactics man management and his beliefs in how he thinks football should be played?!
No, I personally want a manager who has the right ethos for the club we are and the club we're trying to be. When you get given the type of playing resources any City manager under the ADUG regime will get, trophies are to some extent a given whether you like it or not. And no I'm not saying that anyone could have won the trophies Mancini has, I'm saying that winning trophies with the quality of players at our club (just as at Chelsea, United, Madrid, Barca, Bayern, etc. etc.) is a given.
What we need IMO is someone who has the capacity to motivate and inspire the players to continually play at the top of their game. It's not possible to play at the highest level every week, but to have a chance at getting close you need a manager who instills in his players the belief that his system is infallible and as long as they get on board, they will win.
Next is the style of play ... I'd hazard a guess AD aren't interested in a functional trophy winning team which neither inspires nor captures the imagination but which wins. That type of thinking is acceptable when your resources are limited, but I suspect again with the resources made available to a City manager, that style will be an important factor.
Finally there's the question of politics. City require a manager who is the embodiment of the club and who's first loyalty is to the club. To start fires because you don't have the players you want, or because you can't get along with a club doctor or a club scout, and to publicly wage war with these people is IMO the antithesis of what City want to be about. It's the one big negative against Mourinho's name, and one which Txiki and Ferran are all to aware of. However it's also something which Mancini has let himself down with time and time again.
The right manager doesn't have to be a proven trophy winner, so long as he ticks all the other boxes and the powers that be think with City he'll win trophies. It may well be viewed as a risk from the outside, but everyone involved gets paid a whole heap of money to trust and back their own judgment.
The cookie monster said:P'b of course everyone is entitled to their opinion on mancini
I just think the abuse he has had on here is unwarranted.
OB1 said:The cookie monster said:P'b of course everyone is entitled to their opinion on mancini
I just think the abuse he has had on here is unwarranted.
But you think it is warranted to effectively abuse people on here by completely misrepresenting their views and taking the p!ss? Just because they do not share your view.
Also, what do define as abuse? I've not seen much abuse of Mancini but I have seen plenty of considered criticism.
BillyShears said:waspish said:Do you want a manager who wins trophies?
Irrespective of his tactics man management and his beliefs in how he thinks football should be played?!
No, I personally want a manager who has the right ethos for the club we are and the club we're trying to be. When you get given the type of playing resources any City manager under the ADUG regime will get, trophies are to some extent a given whether you like it or not. And no I'm not saying that anyone could have won the trophies Mancini has, I'm saying that winning trophies with the quality of players at our club (just as at Chelsea, United, Madrid, Barca, Bayern, etc. etc.) is a given.
What we need IMO is someone who has the capacity to motivate and inspire the players to continually play at the top of their game. It's not possible to play at the highest level every week, but to have a chance at getting close you need a manager who instills in his players the belief that his system is infallible and as long as they get on board, they will win.
Next is the style of play ... I'd hazard a guess AD aren't interested in a functional trophy winning team which neither inspires nor captures the imagination but which wins. That type of thinking is acceptable when your resources are limited, but I suspect again with the resources made available to a City manager, that style will be an important factor.
Finally there's the question of politics. City require a manager who is the embodiment of the club and who's first loyalty is to the club. To start fires because you don't have the players you want, or because you can't get along with a club doctor or a club scout, and to publicly wage war with these people is IMO the antithesis of what City want to be about. It's the one big negative against Mourinho's name, and one which Txiki and Ferran are all to aware of. However it's also something which Mancini has let himself down with time and time again.
The right manager doesn't have to be a proven trophy winner, so long as he ticks all the other boxes and the powers that be think with City he'll win trophies. It may well be viewed as a risk from the outside, but everyone involved gets paid a whole heap of money to trust and back their own judgment.
BlueDejong said:Manchester City are lining up Malaga manager Manuel Pellegrini as a potential replacement for Roberto Mancini according to El Pais.
<a class="postlink" href="http://deportes.elpais.com/deportes/2013/03/14/champions/1363288505_684925.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://deportes.elpais.com/deportes/201 ... 84925.html</a>
What do you think ?
waspish said:Think the manager you want doesn't exist.. Trophies are not a given even with money! I will guarantee if and when Mancini goes the next manager will have plenty of poor games the media will still write the bile they are doing now forums will slate him after any loss and this manager could end up winning us nowt!
Mancini should stay but if our owners do part with Mancini Mourinho Or Ancelotti is the only managers I'd be happy with..