Mancini

[dancity19]

The very notion of "upgrade" is highly subjective. Is it judged on trophies, because then of all the names linked only Mourinho is an "upgrade" ...

If it's judged on trophies + man management success ... Klopp and Mourinho.

The truth is that if Txiki and Ferran have decided Mancini goes, they won't care one bit about what is perceived as an upgrade. These men passed up Mourinho for at the time a managerial novice in Guardiola. I'm sure they will comfortably back their own judgment over what the watching world or media wants or expects them to do. Even if it's to employ MP.

If you are so in awe of their judgement, why not step back and leave them to it.

I'd rather mancini remains and City try and sign one top-class striker. That would make all the difference

if you look throughout the team, we have two top keepers, a fantastic defence (even given the injury to Kompany), a dominant midfield which is only going to improve now that Garcia has some games under his belt, and hopefully when Rodwell recovers. The only weakness is the forward line. If Aguero can fully recover and we can add a Falcao or a player at that level, then we can fight for the title again.

If you appoint a manager like Pellegrini it could all go to pot.

if the whole season collapses like a pack of cards, which is possible, then we will have no alternative but to change manager. I wish we could all devote our energies as supporters to getting behind the team instead of finding fault with what we have, even finding faults that aren't even there.

Spot on Marvin. There is no need to demolish a house and rebuild it to overcome a loose slate on the roof!

Too much knee-jerk on here.

Maybe the person building that house has done a good job, but that same slate keeps falling down? He just can't sort the slate out?
Perhaps a new builder can fix it, and even add a little decoration.

To further the analogy....

-- Tue Mar 19, 2013 4:16 pm --

The very notion of "upgrade" is highly subjective. Is it judged on trophies, because then of all the names linked only Mourinho is an "upgrade" ...

If it's judged on trophies + man management success ... Klopp and Mourinho.

The truth is that if Txiki and Ferran have decided Mancini goes, they won't care one bit about what is perceived as an upgrade. These men passed up Mourinho for at the time a managerial novice in Guardiola. I'm sure they will comfortably back their own judgment over what the watching world or media wants or expects them to do. Even if it's to employ MP.

If you are so in awe of their judgement, why not step back and leave them to it.

I'd rather mancini remains and City try and sign one top-class striker. That would make all the difference

if you look throughout the team, we have two top keepers, a fantastic defence (even given the injury to Kompany), a dominant midfield which is only going to improve now that Garcia has some games under his belt, and hopefully when Rodwell recovers. The only weakness is the forward line. If Aguero can fully recover and we can add a Falcao or a player at that level, then we can fight for the title again.

If you appoint a manager like Pellegrini it could all go to pot.

if the whole season collapses like a pack of cards, which is possible, then we will have no alternative but to change manager. I wish we could all devote our energies as supporters to getting behind the team instead of finding fault with what we have, even finding faults that aren't even there.

Spot on Marvin. There is no need to demolish a house and rebuild it to overcome a loose slate on the roof!

Too much knee-jerk on here.

Maybe the person building that house has done a good job, but that same slate keeps falling down? He just can't sort the slate out?
Perhaps a new builder can fix it, and even add a little decoration.

To further the analogy....<br /><br />-- Tue Mar 19, 2013 4:16 pm --<br /><br />

The very notion of "upgrade" is highly subjective. Is it judged on trophies, because then of all the names linked only Mourinho is an "upgrade" ...

If it's judged on trophies + man management success ... Klopp and Mourinho.

The truth is that if Txiki and Ferran have decided Mancini goes, they won't care one bit about what is perceived as an upgrade. These men passed up Mourinho for at the time a managerial novice in Guardiola. I'm sure they will comfortably back their own judgment over what the watching world or media wants or expects them to do. Even if it's to employ MP.

If you are so in awe of their judgement, why not step back and leave them to it.

I'd rather mancini remains and City try and sign one top-class striker. That would make all the difference

if you look throughout the team, we have two top keepers, a fantastic defence (even given the injury to Kompany), a dominant midfield which is only going to improve now that Garcia has some games under his belt, and hopefully when Rodwell recovers. The only weakness is the forward line. If Aguero can fully recover and we can add a Falcao or a player at that level, then we can fight for the title again.

If you appoint a manager like Pellegrini it could all go to pot.

if the whole season collapses like a pack of cards, which is possible, then we will have no alternative but to change manager. I wish we could all devote our energies as supporters to getting behind the team instead of finding fault with what we have, even finding faults that aren't even there.

Spot on Marvin. There is no need to demolish a house and rebuild it to overcome a loose slate on the roof!

Too much knee-jerk on here.

Maybe the person building that house has done a good job, but that same slate keeps falling down? He just can't sort the slate out?
Perhaps a new builder can fix it, and even add a little decoration.

To further the analogy....

 

[Marvin]

It's important because of the impact of FFPR while we are behind the break-even position

if we mess it up at this juncture, the "Project" could go down, therefore unless mancini really loses the plot he's a shoe-in to remain. As I said above, sign one striker, and we're back in business. (Get Aguero back and we're back in business but realistically with 3 strikers, 1 is going to get injured)

 

[AustinBlue]

You can not underestimate the impact on our goal-scoring power of the loss of 50% of our strikers. I'd like to see how Mourinho, Ferguson, Pellegrini or any manager would cope with that.

Managers task is to get the most out of what they have - if what they have is suddenly less than what they started with, you have problems.

We've done OK to be where we are, and we need to carry on - then if you want you can have your civil war

Exactly- we've done OK. I don't know for sure, but I HIGHLY doubt that phenomenally successful businessmen would be happy with 'OK'.

Especially considering how we did last season. Football is business now, and as far as my experience goes, business doesn't like to move backwards.

I doubt they will be satisfied with any season of 'OK'. They haven't put the kind of money in for that.

But really, none of us know what will happen.

OK given the impact on our forward line

Anybody smart enough to run FCB should be able to assess a manager's performance against resources available. If you had said at the start of the season that we'd lose Balotelli and Aguero would be out for a 1/3rd of the season, you'd have been gutted and would have snatched your hand off for the opportunity of Champions League qualification and an FA Cup - both yet to be won incidentally, so can we maybe just get on with getting them in the bag?

Your argument ignores the fact that we "lost" Balotelli because of Mancini. We had Balotelli in the first place because Mancini insisted on him over the objections of almost everyone else at the decision making table. And even though Mancini was almost a father figure to him, Balotelli became less and less effective in the City squad. Balotelli was sold because Mancini gave up on him. The reason we didn't have another striker in place was because of Mancini's insistence on getting Balotelli. For me, it was the straw that broke the camel's back.

 

[Claytop]

It's important because of the impact of FFPR while we are behind the break-even position

if we mess it up at this juncture, the "Project" could go down, therefore unless mancini really loses the plot he's a shoe-in to remain. As I said above, sign one striker, and we're back in business. (Get Aguero back and we're back in business but realistically with 3 strikers, 1 is going to get injured)

That part of the post i meant to say.

This summer needs alot more change than one performing striker.

Midfield is first on the list, no question.

 

[kaz7]

If you are so in awe of their judgement, why not step back and leave them to it.

I'd rather mancini remains and City try and sign one top-class striker. That would make all the difference

if you look throughout the team, we have two top keepers, a fantastic defence (even given the injury to Kompany), a dominant midfield which is only going to improve now that Garcia has some games under his belt, and hopefully when Rodwell recovers. The only weakness is the forward line. If Aguero can fully recover and we can add a Falcao or a player at that level, then we can fight for the title again.

If you appoint a manager like Pellegrini it could all go to pot.

if the whole season collapses like a pack of cards, which is possible, then we will have no alternative but to change manager. I wish we could all devote our energies as supporters to getting behind the team instead of finding fault with what we have, even finding faults that aren't even there.

Spot on Marvin. There is no need to demolish a house and rebuild it to overcome a loose slate on the roof!

Too much knee-jerk on here.

Maybe the person building that house has done a good job, but that same slate keeps falling down? He just can't sort the slate out?
Perhaps a new builder can fix it, and even add a little decoration.

To further the analogy....

-- Tue Mar 19, 2013 4:16 pm --

If you are so in awe of their judgement, why not step back and leave them to it.

I'd rather mancini remains and City try and sign one top-class striker. That would make all the difference

if you look throughout the team, we have two top keepers, a fantastic defence (even given the injury to Kompany), a dominant midfield which is only going to improve now that Garcia has some games under his belt, and hopefully when Rodwell recovers. The only weakness is the forward line. If Aguero can fully recover and we can add a Falcao or a player at that level, then we can fight for the title again.

If you appoint a manager like Pellegrini it could all go to pot.

if the whole season collapses like a pack of cards, which is possible, then we will have no alternative but to change manager. I wish we could all devote our energies as supporters to getting behind the team instead of finding fault with what we have, even finding faults that aren't even there.

Spot on Marvin. There is no need to demolish a house and rebuild it to overcome a loose slate on the roof!

Too much knee-jerk on here.

Maybe the person building that house has done a good job, but that same slate keeps falling down? He just can't sort the slate out?
Perhaps a new builder can fix it, and even add a little decoration.

To further the analogy....

-- Tue Mar 19, 2013 4:16 pm --

If you are so in awe of their judgement, why not step back and leave them to it.

I'd rather mancini remains and City try and sign one top-class striker. That would make all the difference

if you look throughout the team, we have two top keepers, a fantastic defence (even given the injury to Kompany), a dominant midfield which is only going to improve now that Garcia has some games under his belt, and hopefully when Rodwell recovers. The only weakness is the forward line. If Aguero can fully recover and we can add a Falcao or a player at that level, then we can fight for the title again.

If you appoint a manager like Pellegrini it could all go to pot.

if the whole season collapses like a pack of cards, which is possible, then we will have no alternative but to change manager. I wish we could all devote our energies as supporters to getting behind the team instead of finding fault with what we have, even finding faults that aren't even there.

Spot on Marvin. There is no need to demolish a house and rebuild it to overcome a loose slate on the roof!

Too much knee-jerk on here.

Maybe the person building that house has done a good job, but that same slate keeps falling down? He just can't sort the slate out?
Perhaps a new builder can fix it, and even add a little decoration.

To further the analogy....

dont get carried away,im not bright enough to go down this road!

 

[OB1]

Your argument ignores the fact that we "lost" Balotelli because of Mancini. We had Balotelli in the first place because Mancini insisted on him over the objections of almost everyone else at the decision making table. And even though Mancini was almost a father figure to him, Balotelli became less and less effective in the City squad. Balotelli was sold because Mancini gave up on him. The reason we didn't have another striker in place was because of Mancini's insistence on getting Balotelli. For me, it was the straw that broke the camel's back.

And Dzeko probably under-performs because Mancini bought him for a team that doesn't play to his strengths and then constantly messes him about.

 

[Anonymous]

It's important because of the impact of FFPR while we are behind the break-even position

if we mess it up at this juncture, the "Project" could go down, therefore unless mancini really loses the plot he's a shoe-in to remain. As I said above, sign one striker, and we're back in business. (Get Aguero back and we're back in business but realistically with 3 strikers, 1 is going to get injured)

That part of the post i meant to say.

This summer needs alot more change than one performing striker.

Midfield is first on the list, no question.

manager is first on the list, the decision to keep bob or get someone else will be a big one.

then it's the midfield, then it's up front, then it's the defense.

 

[Paulmcfc2703]

FFP is the answer, the owners want a self sustaining club. We have enough resources in the existing squad to have won it again this season.

we finished level with united and they strenghened in the summer (van persie)and we went on holiday,we lost the league last summer 100 percent

You can not underestimate the impact on our goal-scoring power of the loss of 50% of our strikers. I'd like to see how Mourinho, Ferguson, Pellegrini or any manager would cope with that.

Managers task is to get the most out of what they have - if what they have is suddenly less than what they started with, you have problems.

We've done OK to be where we are, and we need to carry on - then if you want you can have your civil war

I'm assuming you have forgotten in the 07/08 season Rooney was out for 2 months with a broken foot and then a hamstring issue.

 

[jackrussel]

The Champions League has been a disappointment - however that's down to the groups we've been drawn in!
I'd go as far as to say that I don't believe any of the English teams would have qualified from either of our groups.

the thing is we didnt win a single game, we should of beaten ajax twice.

hes only had 2 cracks at it and we were in very tough groups,how many goes have arsenal tried to win it,and fergie has only won it twice in about 25 years and thats with the easy groups each year,were on a learning curve which will take a few more years before we win it.give the man a fair chance

 

[Feed-The-Goat]

It's important because of the impact of FFPR while we are behind the break-even position

if we mess it up at this juncture, the "Project" could go down, therefore unless mancini really loses the plot he's a shoe-in to remain. As I said above, sign one striker, and we're back in business. (Get Aguero back and we're back in business but realistically with 3 strikers, 1 is going to get injured)

That part of the post i meant to say.

This summer needs alot more change than one performing striker.

Midfield is first on the list, no question.

manager is first on the list, the decision to keep bob or get someone else will be a big one.

then it's the midfield, then it's up front, then it's the defense.

If Bobby can deliver us the FA cup and keep the pressure on the rags for the league even if it is only for us to get 2nd but keep them looking over their shoulder, he will be here next year for another go.