Mancini

[andyhinch]

Not at many Dortmund matches. Wasn't that only the second time they have failed to score this season (the other time being against Bayern)?

Lost to Hamburg away , Schalke at home...Wolfsburg at home..oh forget got hammered 4-1 at home to Hamburg a month or so back..scored though so thats a plus...

Dortmund are a very good team under an excellent coach and played exceptionally well against us but they stink the place out at times just as we stink the place at times. I do know that if we got smacked 4-1 at home to someone like Newcastle I doubt if we would get a cheery 'well at least we scored a goal thats good isn't it?" level of post match analysis.

Had our team cost 30 million rather than 200 million, we might be afforded that slack after winning the league two years on the bounce.

Sorry, keep digging ;)

No one cares, I don't, my dog doesn't my fucking cleaner doesn't, talk to yourself in a dark closest if it makes you feel better, but your thoughts are meaningless, as are mine on this.

 

[OB1]

Dortmund were good but couldn't finish for toffee - where have I seen that before

Not at many Dortmund matches. Wasn't that only the second time they have failed to score this season (the other time being against Bayern)?

Lost to Hamburg away , Schalke at home...Wolfsburg at home..oh forget got hammered 4-1 at home to Hamburg a month or so back..scored though so thats a plus...

Dortmund are a very good team under an excellent coach and played exceptionally well against us but they stink the place out at times just as we stink the place at times. I do know that if we got smacked 4-1 at home to someone like Newcastle I doubt if we would get a cheery 'well at least we scored a goal thats good isn't it?" level of post match analysis.

It doesn't go down well whenever we lose but if we matched their conversion rate, I believe that we would have 18 more league goals and that could equated to enough points to have still competing for the title.

 

[JoeMercer'sWay]

Spent an hour working on some new stats that managed to "prove" that Mancini is a better manager than Mourinho.

Safe to say I scrapped the project.

 

[Phil1]

It's so revealing that you have reduced effective, no, competent, man-management to '...who shakes players hands and gives the players a nice cheesy smile when subbed!' Your utter lack of basic knowledge of individual psychology and job management is disturbing.

Dude;-),

There are people of all sorts of age and presumably experience on this board and I hope it is a not a cheap jibe - no sarcasm intended - to suggest that some of them have little or no management experience or training.

I'm just a working class football fan (although I've been upgraded to established middle class downstairs...) and I'll be the first to admit I don't have any real management training - I'm gaining experience all the time due to my business but nothing garnered from a text book. I watch the games and form opinions from what I've witnessed before me, I know it's simplistic but it works for me.

 

[BobKowalski]

Not at many Dortmund matches. Wasn't that only the second time they have failed to score this season (the other time being against Bayern)?

Lost to Hamburg away , Schalke at home...Wolfsburg at home..oh forget got hammered 4-1 at home to Hamburg a month or so back..scored though so thats a plus...

Dortmund are a very good team under an excellent coach and played exceptionally well against us but they stink the place out at times just as we stink the place at times. I do know that if we got smacked 4-1 at home to someone like Newcastle I doubt if we would get a cheery 'well at least we scored a goal thats good isn't it?" level of post match analysis.

Had our team cost 30 million rather than 200 million, we might be afforded that slack after winning the league two years on the bounce.

Sorry, keep digging ;)

Yes. I am sure the rioting Dortmund fans at the home defeat to Schalke were consoling themselves with that very thought

No worries. Keep trying ;)

 

[Phil1]

Not at many Dortmund matches. Wasn't that only the second time they have failed to score this season (the other time being against Bayern)?

Lost to Hamburg away , Schalke at home...Wolfsburg at home..oh forget got hammered 4-1 at home to Hamburg a month or so back..scored though so thats a plus...

Dortmund are a very good team under an excellent coach and played exceptionally well against us but they stink the place out at times just as we stink the place at times. I do know that if we got smacked 4-1 at home to someone like Newcastle I doubt if we would get a cheery 'well at least we scored a goal thats good isn't it?" level of post match analysis.

It doesn't go down well whenever we lose but if we matched their conversion rate, I believe that we would have 18 more league goals and that could equated to enough points to have still competing for the title.

So Mancini is correct when he says that our poor finishing is part of the reason why we're so far behind?

 

[BobKowalski]

Not at many Dortmund matches. Wasn't that only the second time they have failed to score this season (the other time being against Bayern)?

Lost to Hamburg away , Schalke at home...Wolfsburg at home..oh forget got hammered 4-1 at home to Hamburg a month or so back..scored though so thats a plus...

Dortmund are a very good team under an excellent coach and played exceptionally well against us but they stink the place out at times just as we stink the place at times. I do know that if we got smacked 4-1 at home to someone like Newcastle I doubt if we would get a cheery 'well at least we scored a goal thats good isn't it?" level of post match analysis.

It doesn't go down well whenever we lose but if we matched their conversion rate, I believe that we would have 18 more league goals and that could equated to enough points to have still competing for the title.

Well I am sure Dortmund fans will be further consoling themselves with the thought that their conversion rate would put them in contention for the title...of a league they do not play in. It sounds a lot better than being 20 points behind in the actual league they are in.

Perhaps Mancini can start claiming our points per game ratio would make us champions in say...Outer Mongolia. Missing a trick there I reckon

 

[Danamy]

It's unfortunate that the thread has reached the point scoring stage again, shame!

 

[andyhinch]

It's unfortunate that the thread has reached the point scoring stage again, shame!

The problem is, no ones got any points, just speculation, I know fuckall

 

[Dethred]

Watched the Ajax matches again, just to see more of what De Boer would change.

Cannot, for the life of me, see Mancini staying. Unless, of course, Mansour and Mubarak only saw the highlights of the Champions league matches. 3 goals from corners, two of them headers, because Mancini couldn't be bothered with tactical changes to totally fucking abandon zonal marking. Then the complete collapse in Amsterdam after switching to the 3-5-2, of which none of our defense knew what the fuck was going on.

It would be different if our Champions League disaster didn't rest squarely at the feet of Mancini, but it does in an absolute way.

If we put up a decent fight in the league, and had a decent run in the CL, I don't think this thread would even exist. We've totally shat ourselves in the league, and I honestly don't see how anyone can think Mancini would ever get us beyond the first knockout round of the CL. I think having one of our players choosing the tactics last fall would have resulted in more than the 3 points.