Mancini

[Didsbury Dave]

You're all missing the important point about 'kompanygate'.

The problem is not vinny playing for Belgium.

The problem is not Mancini having a problem with him playing for Belgium.

The problem is our idiot manager going public with his issue with vinny (not with belgium) and criticising kompany in the media.

None of this would be being discussed if he hasn't done that. Yet again he showed poor judgement in front of the media. It doesn't matter whether he had a point or not. What matters is how he handled it, and the fallout from that.

 

[OB1]

And I have played every postion on the park but goalkeeper was my number 1 position.

Ah a keeper. So you wanted to play outfield but couldn't quite cut it cool. Better than reffing I guess.[/quote]

I'm sorry - and believe me I am smiling as I write this - but what exactly are you looking for? Are you looking for approbation from the In-crowd for having a go at one of those nasty outers? Are you trying to provoke me into something? Are you trying to prove that next to you Stephen Fry is a witless fool?

I'm not aware that we have previuously crossed keyboards and I really can't recall any of your posts so what do you want; other than to prove some of my comments about the behaviour of posters correct?

If you wilfully ignore what someone has just written and then to make a witty remark that has no credence whatsoever, does that make funny?

I don't need to justify myself to you or anyone on here but I'm quite happy to tell you again that I played every position on the park in matches for a variety of teams down the years. In the first season that I played for the team I eventually managed from goal to a title, I was playing upfront and was on my way to complete a hat trick when some idiot crunched my left ankle into the ground and broke it in three places plus also dislocating it; I then spent half an hour lying there at Hough End in some considerable pain but still waving to onlookers and cracking jokes until an ambulance arrived- a real keyboard warrior.

Oh and playing in goal is pretty cool, thanks. In my later years when I just played in a weekly scratch game with five-a-side goals, with guys of varying standards and ages, I was the one everybody wanted to pick first because my goalkeeping was the best bet for being on the winning side. So that was cool. Thanks for giving me the chance to share, dude.

 

[Rolee]

You're all missing the important point about 'kompanygate'.

The problem is not vinny playing for Belgium.

The problem is not Mancini having a problem with him playing for Belgium.

The problem is our idiot manager going public with his issue with vinny (not with belgium) and criticising kompany in the media.

None of this would be being discussed if he hasn't done that. Yet again he showed poor judgement in front of the media. It doesn't matter whether he had a point or not. What matters is how he handled it, and the fallout from that.

What fallout? The one on here?

 

[mancity1]

It's a question, still without a reasonable answer.

What did Kompany do "wrong" by playing in a game he was declared fit for by two sets of medical staff?

Who is saying he did wrong?

Mancini.

He said he would have preferred he didn't play that is all.

Big bluddy deal what would you expect him to say.

Do you think Fergie wants Rooney to play for England every time they set foot on the pitch?

Fuck me drunk some people make mountains out of molehills.

 

[Didsbury Dave]

You're all missing the important point about 'kompanygate'.

The problem is not vinny playing for Belgium.

The problem is not Mancini having a problem with him playing for Belgium.

The problem is our idiot manager going public with his issue with vinny (not with belgium) and criticising kompany in the media.

None of this would be being discussed if he hasn't done that. Yet again he showed poor judgement in front of the media. It doesn't matter whether he had a point or not. What matters is how he handled it, and the fallout from that.

What fallout? The one on here?

Nope.

The fallout played out in the media this week where vinny's people put a leak out about how unhappy he was with Mancini's comments. If you can't see that's bad news for the club then you're a fool.

Having your captain clash with your manager is bad news for any club, especially when your captain is as influential as ours in the dressing room. Especially when it comes on the back of repeated public criticism of other players who are obviously unhappy with it.

Our dressing room are supposed to be a unit. A team. And that includes the management.

 

[mancity1]

Mancini.

And thus the circle is complete.

Don't be so stupid BS you are better than that.

I think Mancini suffers from foot and mouth disease as much as the next punter when it comes to the press , in fact as I have often said I only watch it for the injury news.

He would have preferred VK not to play and was disappointed that he did.

You know the old club v country thing.

If you can suggest a better manager available who would want the job in charge of the richest club in the world I am all ears?

 

[moomba]

I'm surprised Dave that you can be livid about Mancini putting this into the public domain, but practically cheer Kompany the other day for doing the same.

 

[mancity1]

You're all missing the important point about 'kompanygate'.

The problem is not vinny playing for Belgium.

The problem is not Mancini having a problem with him playing for Belgium.

The problem is our idiot manager going public with his issue with vinny (not with belgium) and criticising kompany in the media.

None of this would be being discussed if he hasn't done that. Yet again he showed poor judgement in front of the media. It doesn't matter whether he had a point or not. What matters is how he handled it, and the fallout from that.

He was asked the question and he answered it in the usual poor way he does DD.

You should be pleased as he answered it as you would expect him to DD.

It means nothing DD to the people in the real world.

 

[BobKowalski]

Why is this Kompany non-issue still being discussed on here?

Even the tabloids realise it's a mole hill.

We're our own worst enemy sometimes.

It's a stick

It's a question, still without a reasonable answer.

He didn't do anything 'wrong'. No one has done anything 'wrong'. Mancini would have preferred Kompany not to risk further injury by playing 90 mins in a competitive match so soon after recovering from the injury. Kompany would not have been match fit and with City would likely have only played part of any match so soon after recovering.

Mancini wasn't happy and said so just as countless managers have said in the past when faced with the club v country dilemma. Taggart was incensed that Vidic did exactly the same thing and said so and then left Vidic to stew on the bench as punishment.- or in the stands by leaving him out of the squad I forget which.

Mind you the screams and meltdown if Mancini had left Kompany out of the Newcastle game as 'punishment' would have been wondrous to behold...

 

[Rolee]

You're all missing the important point about 'kompanygate'.

The problem is not vinny playing for Belgium.

The problem is not Mancini having a problem with him playing for Belgium.

The problem is our idiot manager going public with his issue with vinny (not with belgium) and criticising kompany in the media.

None of this would be being discussed if he hasn't done that. Yet again he showed poor judgement in front of the media. It doesn't matter whether he had a point or not. What matters is how he handled it, and the fallout from that.

What fallout? The one on here?

Nope.

The fallout played out in the media this week where vinny's people put a leak out about how unhappy he was with Mancini's comments. If you can't see that's bad news for the club then you're a fool.

Having your captain clash with your manager is bad news for any club, especially when your captain is as influential as ours in the dressing room. Especially when it comes on the back of repeated public criticism of other players who are obviously unhappy with it.

Our dressing room are supposed to be a unit. A team. And that includes the management.

Vinnie's people eh? To what end did they do this?

 

[mancity1]

You're all missing the important point about 'kompanygate'.

The problem is not vinny playing for Belgium.

The problem is not Mancini having a problem with him playing for Belgium.

The problem is our idiot manager going public with his issue with vinny (not with belgium) and criticising kompany in the media.

None of this would be being discussed if he hasn't done that. Yet again he showed poor judgement in front of the media. It doesn't matter whether he had a point or not. What matters is how he handled it, and the fallout from that.

What fallout? The one on here?

DD has a habit of making mountains out of molehills especially when it comes to RM.

When Fergie says the same in relation to his players it doesn't result in anybody on here saying its another reason why he should be sacked.

Don't get me wrong RM is a poor media performer by anybodies standards but unlike some I prefer to judge him solely on the teams performances over a reasonable period of time purely on an objective basis.

If he cannot get us out of the group stage next season its pretty clear to me he will be on borrowed time , that is if he gets another season in charge and I think unless there is a clear an obvious improvement on him available I cannot see why he shouldn't get another season.

 

[Rolee]

You're all missing the important point about 'kompanygate'.

The problem is not vinny playing for Belgium.

The problem is not Mancini having a problem with him playing for Belgium.

The problem is our idiot manager going public with his issue with vinny (not with belgium) and criticising kompany in the media.

None of this would be being discussed if he hasn't done that. Yet again he showed poor judgement in front of the media. It doesn't matter whether he had a point or not. What matters is how he handled it, and the fallout from that.

What fallout? The one on here?

DD has a habit of making mountains out of molehills especially when it comes to RM.

When Fergie says the same in relation to his players it doesn't result in anybody on here saying its another reason why he should be sacked.

Don't get me wrong RM is a poor media performer by anybodies standards but unlike some I prefer to judge him solely on the teams performances over a reasonable period of time purely on an objective basis.

If he cannot get us out of the group stage next season its pretty clear to me he will be on borrowed time , that is if he gets another season in charge and I think unless there is a clear an obvious improvement on him available I cannot see why he shouldn't get another season.

I've noticed and I agree with your take on Mancini, it makes sense.

 

[mancity1]

You're all missing the important point about 'kompanygate'.

The problem is not vinny playing for Belgium.

The problem is not Mancini having a problem with him playing for Belgium.

The problem is our idiot manager going public with his issue with vinny (not with belgium) and criticising kompany in the media.

None of this would be being discussed if he hasn't done that. Yet again he showed poor judgement in front of the media. It doesn't matter whether he had a point or not. What matters is how he handled it, and the fallout from that.

What fallout? The one on here?

Nope.

The fallout played out in the media this week where vinny's people put a leak out about how unhappy he was with Mancini's comments. If you can't see that's bad news for the club then you're a fool.

Having your captain clash with your manager is bad news for any club, especially when your captain is as influential as ours in the dressing room. Especially when it comes on the back of repeated public criticism of other players who are obviously unhappy with it.

Our dressing room are supposed to be a unit. A team. And that includes the management.

With Vinnies blessing and knowledge no doubt DD.

Has it ever occurred to you its just the usual spin doctors in the media creating something out of nothing as per usual.

When will you get it through your skull DD that the british media by and large don't like RM , they don't want City to be successful , they don't want VK being captain of City and in fact most of them would rather he play for Utd or Chelsea or Arsenal if he was to play in the premiership.

People like you are puppets on their string as Sandy used to sing.

 

[Bluemoon115]

What fallout? The one on here?

Nope.

The fallout played out in the media this week where vinny's people put a leak out about how unhappy he was with Mancini's comments. If you can't see that's bad news for the club then you're a fool.

Having your captain clash with your manager is bad news for any club, especially when your captain is as influential as ours in the dressing room. Especially when it comes on the back of repeated public criticism of other players who are obviously unhappy with it.

Our dressing room are supposed to be a unit. A team. And that includes the management.

With Vinnies blessing and knowledge no doubt DD.

Has it ever occurred to you its just the usual spin doctors in the media creating something out of nothing as per usual.

When will you get it through your skull DD that the british media by and large don't like RM , they don't want City to be successful , they don't want VK being captain of City and in fact most of them would rather he play for Utd or Chelsea or Arsenal if he was to play in the premiership.

People like you are puppets on their string as Sandy used to sing.

The British media eh?

It was released in the Belgian media. Are they against us too?

 

[LoveCity]

When will you get it through your skull DD that the british media by and large don't like RM , they don't want City to be successful , they don't want VK being captain of City and in fact most of them would rather he play for Utd or Chelsea or Arsenal if he was to play in the premiership.

What is the Belgian media's gripe with us then, because that's where the fall-out stories began and took a couple of days to reach England.

 

[moomba]

What fallout? The one on here?

I think the fallout is pretty much restricted to here. Media hasn't spent too much time or energy with it although that might come in the next few days.

I figure if there was a problem between the two, the absence or presence of a media story doesn't really make much of a difference. If there isn't a problem between the two (and I note that a few a desperately trying to convince everyone that the relationship is at breaking point) then who really cares what the press says.

 

[mancity1]

What fallout? The one on here?

DD has a habit of making mountains out of molehills especially when it comes to RM.

When Fergie says the same in relation to his players it doesn't result in anybody on here saying its another reason why he should be sacked.

Don't get me wrong RM is a poor media performer by anybodies standards but unlike some I prefer to judge him solely on the teams performances over a reasonable period of time purely on an objective basis.

If he cannot get us out of the group stage next season its pretty clear to me he will be on borrowed time , that is if he gets another season in charge and I think unless there is a clear an obvious improvement on him available I cannot see why he shouldn't get another season.

I've noticed and I agree with your take on Mancini, it makes sense.

As such its logical and important to treat Mancini's responses to questions he gets at his usual pre gamers with the grain of salt they deserve.

I gave up taking him seriously after one press conference and despite the fact his English has marginal improved , his ability to articulate hasn't and I am sure it would be much the same if he conducted the conferences in Italian.

Doesn't make his a manager that shouldn't be in charge of club with lofty ambitions though.

Many a manager with a good trophy haul were at their worst in front of the press.

I wish the likes of DD would accept it for what it is.

I wouldn't want RM to disappoint him in that regard and he might get a bit closer to becoming a RM inner.

 

[Rammy Blue]

When will you get it through your skull DD that the british media by and large don't like RM , they don't want City to be successful , they don't want VK being captain of City and in fact most of them would rather he play for Utd or Chelsea or Arsenal if he was to play in the premiership.

What is the Belgian media's gripe with us then, because that's where the fall-out stories began and took a couple of days to reach England.

That added to with direct comments from Bob saying, "Vince knows his behaviour was not good" and Bob blatantly blanking him when he was subbed last week.

 

[Rolee]

When will you get it through your skull DD that the british media by and large don't like RM , they don't want City to be successful , they don't want VK being captain of City and in fact most of them would rather he play for Utd or Chelsea or Arsenal if he was to play in the premiership.

What is the Belgian media's gripe with us then, because that's where the fall-out stories began and took a couple of days to reach England.

From a blog piece wasn't it? Or did it make print?

 

[moomba]

That added to with direct comments from Bob saying, "Vince knows his behaviour was not good" and Bob blatantly blanking him when he was subbed last week.

And plenty of positive comments about his performance and value to the team.