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Rammy Blue said:
LoveCity said:
mancity1 said:
When will you get it through your skull DD that the british media by and large don't like RM , they don't want City to be successful , they don't want VK being captain of City and in fact most of them would rather he play for Utd or Chelsea or Arsenal if he was to play in the premiership.

What is the Belgian media's gripe with us then, because that's where the fall-out stories began and took a couple of days to reach England.

That added to with direct comments from Bob saying, "Vince knows his behaviour was not good" and Bob blatantly blanking him when he was subbed last week.

"blatantly blanking him" *sigh*
 
Rolee said:
Rammy Blue said:
LoveCity said:
What is the Belgian media's gripe with us then, because that's where the fall-out stories began and took a couple of days to reach England.

That added to with direct comments from Bob saying, "Vince knows his behaviour was not good" and Bob blatantly blanking him when he was subbed last week.

"blatantly blanking him" *sigh*

Seriously?

If you don't think there was animosity between the two of them at that point then I suggest you take up watching a different sport.
 
Rammy Blue said:
Rolee said:
Rammy Blue said:
That added to with direct comments from Bob saying, "Vince knows his behaviour was not good" and Bob blatantly blanking him when he was subbed last week.

"blatantly blanking him" *sigh*

Seriously?

If you don't think there was animosity between the two of them at that point then I suggest you take up watching a different sport.

I suggest you stick to the soap operas.

What do you think, Mancini decided to sub him so he could blatantly blank him as he came off? FFS!
 
Bluemoon115 said:
mancity1 said:
Didsbury Dave said:
Nope.

The fallout played out in the media this week where vinny's people put a leak out about how unhappy he was with Mancini's comments. If you can't see that's bad news for the club then you're a fool.

Having your captain clash with your manager is bad news for any club, especially when your captain is as influential as ours in the dressing room. Especially when it comes on the back of repeated public criticism of other players who are obviously unhappy with it.

Our dressing room are supposed to be a unit. A team. And that includes the management.

With Vinnies blessing and knowledge no doubt DD.

Has it ever occurred to you its just the usual spin doctors in the media creating something out of nothing as per usual.

When will you get it through your skull DD that the british media by and large don't like RM , they don't want City to be successful , they don't want VK being captain of City and in fact most of them would rather he play for Utd or Chelsea or Arsenal if he was to play in the premiership.

People like you are puppets on their string as Sandy used to sing.
The British media eh?

It was released in the Belgian media. Are they against us too?

I was commenting on the fact that this season if you add up the space on good news City stories v bad news City stories in the british media its been pretty lopped sided.

They are wondering why we are not 15 points ahead of Manure and haven't got Barcelona on the radar at Wembley.

Do you honestly think the Belgian media give a stuff who Vinny plays for in the premiership?


They would much prefer he played in the Belgium league pure and simple but he had much loftier ambitions obviously hence his move to Germany at a young age.

They will milk RM saying he would have preferred VK didn't play for Belgium first up after being rested for full recovery for all its worth though for many obvious reasons.

The media have made story out of a non story of RM saying he would have preferred VK play his first game after a long lay off for us that is all.<br /><br />-- Sat Apr 06, 2013 11:42 pm --<br /><br />
Rammy Blue said:
Rolee said:
Rammy Blue said:
That added to with direct comments from Bob saying, "Vince knows his behaviour was not good" and Bob blatantly blanking him when he was subbed last week.

"blatantly blanking him" *sigh*

Seriously?

If you don't think there was animosity between the two of them at that point then I suggest you take up watching a different sport.

Even if there was so bloody what?

My missus is upset I am on this forum at 12.40am but I don't think the divorce papers will be served just yet.

VK and RM have long moved on assuming they had something to move on from and both I am sure have much more important things to think about and act on , time we moved on too.
 
Bluemoon115 said:
mancity1 said:
Didsbury Dave said:
Nope.

The fallout played out in the media this week where vinny's people put a leak out about how unhappy he was with Mancini's comments. If you can't see that's bad news for the club then you're a fool.

Having your captain clash with your manager is bad news for any club, especially when your captain is as influential as ours in the dressing room. Especially when it comes on the back of repeated public criticism of other players who are obviously unhappy with it.

Our dressing room are supposed to be a unit. A team. And that includes the management.

With Vinnies blessing and knowledge no doubt DD.

Has it ever occurred to you its just the usual spin doctors in the media creating something out of nothing as per usual.

When will you get it through your skull DD that the british media by and large don't like RM , they don't want City to be successful , they don't want VK being captain of City and in fact most of them would rather he play for Utd or Chelsea or Arsenal if he was to play in the premiership.

People like you are puppets on their string as Sandy used to sing.
The British media eh?

It was released in the Belgian media. Are they against us too?

The story was written as a result of what RM said before the Newcastle game.

The rest is conjecture , innuendo and the usual spin that media put on these things.

Lets face it there are way too many people that make a career out of what managers say or don't say or do and don't do but of course they by and large are too lazy too unprofessional and too unwilling to make a more meaningful contribution to the growth and understanding of humanity both when it comes to sport and football in particular and far more important issues in life in general.
 
mancity1 said:
Bluemoon115 said:
mancity1 said:
With Vinnies blessing and knowledge no doubt DD.

Has it ever occurred to you its just the usual spin doctors in the media creating something out of nothing as per usual.

When will you get it through your skull DD that the british media by and large don't like RM , they don't want City to be successful , they don't want VK being captain of City and in fact most of them would rather he play for Utd or Chelsea or Arsenal if he was to play in the premiership.

People like you are puppets on their string as Sandy used to sing.
The British media eh?

It was released in the Belgian media. Are they against us too?

I was commenting on the fact that this season if you add up the space on good news City stories v bad news City stories in the british media its been pretty lopped sided.

They are wondering why we are not 15 points ahead of Manure and haven't got Barcelona on the radar at Wembley.

Do you honestly think the Belgian media give a stuff who Vinny plays for in the premiership?


They would much prefer he played in the Belgium league pure and simple but he had much loftier ambitions obviously hence his move to Germany at a young age.

They will milk RM saying he would have preferred VK didn't play for Belgium first up after being rested for full recovery for all its worth though for many obvious reasons.

The media have made story out of a non story of RM saying he would have preferred VK play his first game after a long lay off for us that is all.

-- Sat Apr 06, 2013 11:42 pm --

Rammy Blue said:
Rolee said:
"blatantly blanking him" *sigh*

Seriously?

If you don't think there was animosity between the two of them at that point then I suggest you take up watching a different sport.

Even if there was so bloody what?

My missus is upset I am on this forum at 12.40am but I don't think the divorce papers will be served just yet.

VK and RM have long moved on assuming they had something to move on from and both I am sure have much more important things to think about and act on , time we moved on too.

Just that it was unnecessary. Not saying for one minute that it's the end of the world however it didn't need to be played out like it did.
 
moomba said:
Rolee said:
What fallout? The one on here?

I think the fallout is pretty much restricted to here. Media hasn't spent too much time or energy with it although that might come in the next few days.

I figure if there was a problem between the two, the absence or presence of a media story doesn't really make much of a difference. If there isn't a problem between the two (and I note that a few a desperately trying to convince everyone that the relationship is at breaking point) then who really cares what the press says.

I would go a bit further to say that if there has been issues between the two they would have occurred and perhaps simmered long before RM comments before the Newcastle game.

Again that means nothing unless it starts to affect the performance of either party and the team as a whole.

I am fairly confident that much more tangible factors have been at play this season which have resulted in a poor showing in Europe and lower points total than we would have liked and perhaps and I say perhaps expected at this juncture.
 
Marvin said:
Last season the margin was goal difference. Since then Utd invested massively in RVP & Kagawa plus others whilst we sold two forwards in AJ and Balotelli. We strengthened the defence and midfield, but the forward line was weakened, and on top of that Aguero was injured

You don't need a 1,000 pages to explain it.

Hopeless as always. So we lost Balotelli, far from an ever present last season and with us til January this time, by which point we were already 9 points adrift of the rags, and Johnson, a bit part player who occasionally kicked sand in the faces of little teams when coming off the bench, and yet somehow that weakened us irrevocably? As to Kagawa, the fucker's been injured half the season. YCNMIU!
 
bondsman said:
OB1 said:
bondsman said:
Haha you and mr shears are both keyboard warriors ob1 reading your posts always makes me wonder what you guys look like. I always picture sheldon types who have never kicked a ball in their life which explains your footballing views. Strange how you boys want rid of Mancini but Monaco who want to become a force in world football are linked with him, and even united fans are laughing at the idea we might sack him because we are now so successful we cannot tolerate his gross under achievements. You make me laugh ill give you boys that.


Keyboard warriors! Well you'd be right that I've spent a lot of time at my keyboard recently.

When people post stuff like this, is it any wonder that disparaging responses become the order the day?

If you had actually read a lot of my posts, you would not be making the comments that you have just made.

I'm pretty sure that I made reference to the fact that I was player manager of a team that won its league with an unbeaten season. Maybe you think goalkeepers don't kick the ball! I have never played the game at anything approaching a decent level but I did play football regulalrly from the age of 7 into my early 40's; I've stopped now because one of my knees is close to being knackered, probably from kicking a ball so much. And I have played every postion on the park but goalkeeper was my number 1 position.

Ah a keeper. So you wanted to play outfield but couldn't quite cut it cool. Better than reffing I guess.

Numbnuts post of the day
 
If it hasn't already been patented - I'd like to patent the word fuckwummery.
 
Rammy Blue said:
mancity1 said:
Bluemoon115 said:
The British media eh?

It was released in the Belgian media. Are they against us too?

I was commenting on the fact that this season if you add up the space on good news City stories v bad news City stories in the british media its been pretty lopped sided.

They are wondering why we are not 15 points ahead of Manure and haven't got Barcelona on the radar at Wembley.

Do you honestly think the Belgian media give a stuff who Vinny plays for in the premiership?


They would much prefer he played in the Belgium league pure and simple but he had much loftier ambitions obviously hence his move to Germany at a young age.

They will milk RM saying he would have preferred VK didn't play for Belgium first up after being rested for full recovery for all its worth though for many obvious reasons.

The media have made story out of a non story of RM saying he would have preferred VK play his first game after a long lay off for us that is all.

-- Sat Apr 06, 2013 11:42 pm --

Rammy Blue said:
Seriously?

If you don't think there was animosity between the two of them at that point then I suggest you take up watching a different sport.

Even if there was so bloody what?

My missus is upset I am on this forum at 12.40am but I don't think the divorce papers will be served just yet.

VK and RM have long moved on assuming they had something to move on from and both I am sure have much more important things to think about and act on , time we moved on too.

Just that it was unnecessary. Not saying for one minute that it's the end of the world however it didn't need to be played out like it did.

What was unnecessary was the press making some milage and putting the usual spin on things.

VK unhappy at RM's comments , Mancini blasts VK's decisions etc.

Personally if people want to make an issue of it on here they can go for their life but personally I may more concerned we give our best performance of the season to date on Monday.
 
Bluemoon115 said:
BillyShears said:
If it hasn't already been patented - I'd like to patent the word fuckwummery.
How do you patent a word?

Good point well made. Still the levels of fuckwummery today have reached epic proportions. I'm surprised you haven' had a brain haemorrhage from repeatedly banging your head against a very thick brick wall.
 
BillyShears said:
Bluemoon115 said:
BillyShears said:
If it hasn't already been patented - I'd like to patent the word fuckwummery.
How do you patent a word?

Good point well made. Still the levels of fuckwummery today have reached epic proportions. I'm surprised you haven' had a brain haemorrhage from repeatedly banging your head against a very thick brick wall.

If it hurts then do what the animals do and stop it at once.

Unless your take pleasure at inflicting pain on yourself.
 
OB1 said:
The cookie monster said:
OB1 said:
I didn't answer cos I was out last night but I will now.

My ideal choice has gone to Munich so, currently, I'd plump for:

Mourinho
Klopp
Wenger (with Paddy as his one of his key assistants).

ohmygodgif.gif

At least you didn't misquote me this time.

Now toddle off back to Sesame Street and see if you can find your parents.

Get rid of bobby for wenger
Post of the day OB1,you really think thats an upgrade?
I'm sure it would please the thousands of arsenal fans who want rid anyway
 
mancity1 said:
Rammy Blue said:
mancity1 said:
I was commenting on the fact that this season if you add up the space on good news City stories v bad news City stories in the british media its been pretty lopped sided.

They are wondering why we are not 15 points ahead of Manure and haven't got Barcelona on the radar at Wembley.

Do you honestly think the Belgian media give a stuff who Vinny plays for in the premiership?


They would much prefer he played in the Belgium league pure and simple but he had much loftier ambitions obviously hence his move to Germany at a young age.

They will milk RM saying he would have preferred VK didn't play for Belgium first up after being rested for full recovery for all its worth though for many obvious reasons.

The media have made story out of a non story of RM saying he would have preferred VK play his first game after a long lay off for us that is all.

-- Sat Apr 06, 2013 11:42 pm --



Even if there was so bloody what?

My missus is upset I am on this forum at 12.40am but I don't think the divorce papers will be served just yet.

VK and RM have long moved on assuming they had something to move on from and both I am sure have much more important things to think about and act on , time we moved on too.

Just that it was unnecessary. Not saying for one minute that it's the end of the world however it didn't need to be played out like it did.

What was unnecessary was the press making some milage and putting the usual spin on things.

VK unhappy at RM's comments , Mancini blasts VK's decisions etc.

Personally if people want to make an issue of it on here they can go for their life but personally I may more concerned we give our best performance of the season to date on Monday.

That's fine if you believe Mancini's man management makes no difference whatsoever to the level of performance of individual players or the team collectively. Personally, I think that's a bit naive, and we have underperformed this season imo. To be honest, I used to have a bit of a chuckle when Mancini was pissing off the likes of Adebayor, Bellamy, Robinho, etc, but I don't find that particular joke very funny anymore when the likes of Hart and Kompany are on the receiving end. If the players don't like it they can just do one I hear you cry, after all we're rich enough to replace Kompany, Hart, Nasri, Dzeko, Tevez, Lescott, Aguero, who hasn't he publicly criticised? Fair enough, ditch the malcontents, bring in some expensive replacements, but don't come crying to me when the malcontents prove their worth elsewhere, and we're miles behind a Mourinho inspired Chelsea and a Ferguson inspired United.
 
The cookie monster said:
Get rid of bobby for wenger
Post of the day OB1
I'm sure that will please the thousands of arsenal fans who want rid.

I care even less about what Arsenal fans think than I do about what you think.

Although, if I was, heaven forbid, an Arsenal fan, I'd want rid of Wenger. I think he's been there too long now. Eight years without a trophy is piss poor for a so called big four club. However, Arsenal have problems of their own making and a lot of that is not down to Wenger; some of it is.

Put Wenger at City and I think he would be reinvigorated and with someone else controlling player recruitment, I think he could surpass Bobby's trophy haul and do it with more style, on the pitch: Bob would obviously win the style war off it.

You may think it's a daft idea to consider someone who produced a team that went unbeaten for a whole Premier League season and who regularly makes decent progress in the Champions League and that's perfectly fine.

Have a nice day.
 
OB1 said:
The cookie monster said:
Get rid of bobby for wenger
Post of the day OB1
I'm sure that will please the thousands of arsenal fans who want rid.

I care even less about what Arsenal fans think than I do about what you think.

Although, if I was, heaven forbid, an Arsenal fan, I'd want rid of Wenger. I think he's been there too long now. Eight years without a trophy is piss poor for a so called big four club. However, Arsenal have problems of their own making and a lot of that is not down to Wenger; some of it is.

Put Wenger at City and I think he would be reinvigorated and with someone else controlling player recruitment, I think he could surpass Bobby's trophy haul and do it with more style, on the pitch: Bob would obviously win the style war off it.

You may think it's a daft idea to consider someone who produced a team that went unbeaten for a whole Premier League season and who regularly makes decent progress in the Champions League and that's perfectly fine.

Have a nice day.
I think he was top notch 6- 8 years ago,i don't anymore
However he has just won 6 out of his last 7 and dragged them back in the top 4
So i guess the fickle fans might not be on his back as much :)
 
hgblue said:
mancity1 said:
Rammy Blue said:
Just that it was unnecessary. Not saying for one minute that it's the end of the world however it didn't need to be played out like it did.

What was unnecessary was the press making some milage and putting the usual spin on things.

VK unhappy at RM's comments , Mancini blasts VK's decisions etc.

Personally if people want to make an issue of it on here they can go for their life but personally I may more concerned we give our best performance of the season to date on Monday.

That's fine if you believe Mancini's man management makes no difference whatsoever to the level of performance of individual players or the team collectively. Personally, I think that's a bit naive, and we have underperformed this season imo. To be honest, I used to have a bit of a chuckle when Mancini was pissing off the likes of Adebayor, Bellamy, Robinho, etc, but I don't find that particular joke very funny anymore when the likes of Hart and Kompany are on the receiving end. If the players don't like it they can just do one I hear you cry, after all we're rich enough to replace Kompany, Hart, Nasri, Dzeko, Tevez, Lescott, Aguero, who hasn't he publicly criticised? Fair enough, ditch the malcontents, bring in some expensive replacements, but don't come crying to me when the malcontents prove their worth elsewhere, and we're miles behind a Mourinho inspired Chelsea and a Ferguson inspired United.

A bit overdramatic if you don't mind me saying so.

I don't equate public comments like can and should do better , played a game below his usual standards , has to work harder , disappointed me etc etc with a player wanting out.

If the relationship is going to be soured I think that comments by a manger in the press even if they are not infrequent in regards to a certain player or player is going to have them spitting their dummy to the next club who can offer them a better deal and be a serious contributing factor to them wanting out.

Not getting enough game time and or seeking an alternative challenge or change of family circumstance may be a better set of reasons.

Players are the first to know if they individually and the team collectively have not been at their best and sometimes that lack of performance can result in missing on maximum points on the day and while its common for a manager to keep his thoughts on individuals to the confines of the dressing room I think the public comment on individuals good and bad is overrated to a large degree by the press and us on this forum for that matter.

Mancini should be judged on whether he is getting the best out of the players he has at his disposal each week and whether its obvious or not as the case may that he is the best man available to take us forward.

Of course you also have to take into account that a clear better alternative may not want the job as challenging and rewarding as it can be if he does a decent job at it.
 
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