Mancini

[johnnytapia]

Calling someone who posts unsubstantiated gossip a liar gets you banned ? What is this, nursery. Aren't we allowed to upset the sensitive feelings of self aggrandizing fantasists if that's what we think they are

I've nothing against PB he's as much right to his opinion as anyone. But without facts, an opinion is all it is. I don't know if he's ITK or not. What I do know is that a coterie of like minded, prolific posting, sheep like dorks treat his posts like Muslims treat the Koran and that speaks volumes for their poor uninquisitive minds.

PB's last post mentioned "someone at the very top of the club" accusing Mancini of being " a nightmare to work with"

PB then said "people have to accept that"

Why must we accept that ? Name names. Be specific.

If you do work there, grow a pair and name names. In the highly unlikely event of a high ranking superior trawling gossip filled forums for a stick to beat his underlings with and in the even unlikelier event that he can identify them I can't envisage this affecting your job and you shouldn't even have started down this road if it would

Until it's proven it's just internet gossip. For all I know you could be Soriano's tealady (albeit a spanish speaking one) and you were serving him his elevenses just after he'd had a fractious conversation with Mancini and was phoning Txiki to tell him what a nightmare Mancini was and you overheard him. Or you could be in the CIA as I alluded to in a previous post.

Seriously though banning someone for disagreeing with your unproven allegations re Mancini is mind boggling to me especially on something as inconsequential as a football forum ffs

Absolutely bang on. People handing out bans like confetti 'cos some folk don't quite buy the line that's being dished out by mods. It's a forum. A place for debate. Get a grip.

All this talk of "I've heard it from the very top that he was disliked, blah, blah, blah....he was toxic, yadda yadda yadda....the top pros were queuing up to leave...yeah, yeah, yeah" it's all absolute conjecture; all hearsay from people who know people who know people who know....

I'll tell you one thing Mancini was:

A fucking champion. And that's a fact.

 

[Dribble]

Calling someone who posts unsubstantiated gossip a liar gets you banned ? What is this, nursery. Aren't we allowed to upset the sensitive feelings of self aggrandizing fantasists if that's what we think they are

I've nothing against PB he's as much right to his opinion as anyone. But without facts, an opinion is all it is. I don't know if he's ITK or not. What I do know is that a coterie of like minded, prolific posting, sheep like dorks treat his posts like Muslims treat the Koran and that speaks volumes for their poor uninquisitive minds.

PB's last post mentioned "someone at the very top of the club" accusing Mancini of being " a nightmare to work with"

PB then said "people have to accept that"

Why must we accept that ? Name names. Be specific.

If you do work there, grow a pair and name names. In the highly unlikely event of a high ranking superior trawling gossip filled forums for a stick to beat his underlings with and in the even unlikelier event that he can identify them I can't envisage this affecting your job and you shouldn't even have started down this road if it would

Until it's proven it's just internet gossip. For all I know you could be Soriano's tea lady (albeit a Spanish speaking one) and you were serving him his elevenses just after he'd had a fractious conversation with Mancini and was phoning Txiki to tell him what a nightmare Mancini was and you overheard him. Or you could be in the CIA as I alluded to in a previous post.

Seriously though banning someone for disagreeing with your unproven allegations re Mancini is mind boggling to me especially on something as inconsequential as a football forum ffs

Nail on the head.......

If 'Those in the know' name names and be specific, then perhaps their claims will carry more credibility and won't sound like typical internet tittle-tattle......

Personally I couldn't give a rats-arse who liked Mancini or not. He wasn't there to win a popularity contest, he was there to win trophies which he did.

1) I love Mancini. Thought he was brilliant for us and is rightly held in very high esteem by a lot of us.

2) I'm an invisible, a nobody on the internet, so this probably counts for nothing as well (other than I hold Mancini in the same very high regard in spite of this), however I know PB and respect his point of view. He also has impeccable contacts within football in general, and City in particular. The things that have been alluded to about what was going wrong behind the scenes can, sadly, be taken as accurate/correct.

That said, I agree wholeheartedly with your last sentence. Bob is responsible for at least 10 of the best footballing days in my sad and empty life.

What was going on behind the scenes? Was he eating supporters babies? I've heard nothing yet to convince me that the hysteria whipped up by the Mancini outer's is anything more than idle gossip. Like I said, I want them to add credence to what they 'allude' to.... It can't be that hard to do!

 

[sir baconface]

Believe whatever you want - There are some very good sources of info out there and PB is def one of them. But who gives a fuck whether you believe or not. It's an opinion shared, take it how you want, don't think PB or any of the other ITK's will lose any sleep.

There were some massive jobs there at the end of last season - just the type of jobs he loves and if he is such a trophy magnet, why wouldn't a team employ him. I mean there were at least 5/6 high profile jobs, surely he must have been right for at least one of them. Hmmm just saying

If Mancini was so unpopular with the players, please explain how the likes of Hart, Kompany, Zabaleta, Silva, Tevez, Richards, Clichy, Lescott etc. have played arguably the best football of their careers so far under his management? Because if, as you seem to think , he is a bad manager who was detested by the players, this would correlate with poor performances. But it didn't for the large part.

Don't know maybe you should ask them. There is a certain individual on here who is friends with a couple of them.

If I was a guessing man and I ain't no massive expert in this level of management techniques - Players have Professional Pride, also when things are going well all issues can be put aside - I don't want to go into techniques but there are ways to manage performance from individuals.

These types of management cycles last short periods, Poor Bobby got his 2.5 years out of the majority of the group before the chinks started to appear. People can't stick their heads in the sand an believe it never happened

I never said bad manager, He is good but there are limitations to what he can do - he was given a squad good enough to deliver success, he did it, but his time came to an end and he was moved on.

Sorry got to go - I'm off to practice my Management techniques on my children :)

That is true. You don't get mutiny until things start to go wrong. Even If there are one or two dissidents, nobody listens to them.

Without wishing to denigrate Pellers in any way, his real test will come now we have hit a poor patch and been overtaken. The last few months have been all sweetness and light.

Mancini was just who we needed to get among the trophies. Hopefully Pellegrini will kick us onward and upward.

 

[Plain Speaking]

Sounds like there's a few journos on this thread, trying to create a story?

 

[johnnytapia]

Nail on the head.......

If 'Those in the know' name names and be specific, then perhaps their claims will carry more credibility and won't sound like typical internet tittle-tattle......

Personally I couldn't give a rats-arse who liked Mancini or not. He wasn't there to win a popularity contest, he was there to win trophies which he did.

1) I love Mancini. Thought he was brilliant for us and is rightly held in very high esteem by a lot of us.

2) I'm an invisible, a nobody on the internet, so this probably counts for nothing as well (other than I hold Mancini in the same very high regard in spite of this), however I know PB and respect his point of view. He also has impeccable contacts within football in general, and City in particular. The things that have been alluded to about what was going wrong behind the scenes can, sadly, be taken as accurate/correct.

That said, I agree wholeheartedly with your last sentence. Bob is responsible for at least 10 of the best footballing days in my sad and empty life.

What was going on behind the scenes? Was he eating supporters babies? I've heard nothing yet to convince me that the hysteria whipped up by the Mancini outer's is anything more than idle gossip. Like I said, I want them to add credence to what they 'allude' to.... It can't be that hard to do!

It must be true - Vinny looked at him in a funny way once. Nailed on evidence the empire was crumbling. That, and we got to a cup fina and as all top insiders know, nothing speaks of disarray louder than making it to cup finals. I also heard he once asked Brian Kidd to add an extra shot of espresso to his cappuccino and Kiddo, rightly or wrongly, pointed out that it was past 11am and cappuccinos shouldn't even be on the menu.

 

[Dribble]

Claiming it's because Bobby might have been a meany to the tealady (who shall henceforth be called Prestwich Blue) etc is risible

Prestwich_Blue has posted enough for anyone who is observant to know he's got good contacts at the club. It's ridiculous to take the piss out of him.

Yes and those good contacts will pass on what they wish to spin when they have very willing listeners.

This

And those good contacts will pass on what they wish to spin especially to those who have the ear of an internet forum hungry for gossip!

 

[ForzaMancini]

One final point - Mancini captained a team to a Champions League final and a Serie A title. To say he isn't a good leader is bollocks. Mancini is adored by Sampdoria fans and loved by the majority of City fans. The constant attempts to belittle Mancini from so called supporters is absolutely tedious and pathetic, especially from those who did so when he was at the club.

 

[Dribble]

My only response will be the credibility of a manager can be measured in the quality of employment opportunities that are being offered when available for work or when big jobs have been available...

The end of last season, the biggest European management jobs had been available, unfortunately Bobby did not even make any shortlists.. hmm

And your personality quote above - You need people to be fully supporting you to deliver success - so being popular or at least having respect from the people you work with is very important.

1st lesson you will learn in leadership courses -

Real leaders don't go on leadership courses.

We would have followed Mancini in to the trenches on the night Roberto got the GPC to snap at the Etihad.

You sure - a certain Mr Ferguson has been on and delivered Leadership courses - People keep saying he was one of the best

He was handsomely paid to deliver leadership courses, he didn't need one himself as he was a born leader.

 

[Anonymous]

Nail on the head.......

If 'Those in the know' name names and be specific, then perhaps their claims will carry more credibility and won't sound like typical internet tittle-tattle......

Personally I couldn't give a rats-arse who liked Mancini or not. He wasn't there to win a popularity contest, he was there to win trophies which he did.

1) I love Mancini. Thought he was brilliant for us and is rightly held in very high esteem by a lot of us.

2) I'm an invisible, a nobody on the internet, so this probably counts for nothing as well (other than I hold Mancini in the same very high regard in spite of this), however I know PB and respect his point of view. He also has impeccable contacts within football in general, and City in particular. The things that have been alluded to about what was going wrong behind the scenes can, sadly, be taken as accurate/correct.

That said, I agree wholeheartedly with your last sentence. Bob is responsible for at least 10 of the best footballing days in my sad and empty life.

What was going on behind the scenes? Was he eating supporters babies? I've heard nothing yet to convince me that the hysteria whipped up by the Mancini outer's is anything more than idle gossip. Like I said, I want them to add credence to what they 'allude' to.... It can't be that hard to do!

There's been plenty written on these boards already about it mate.

Like I say - I'm a big fan of Bob's and am keeping a watchful eye on his progress at Galatasaray (see "Mancini Thread" in General Football). He is a fucking City legend to me and I thought he had it all - I often posted I felt he was going to be like Cloughie. However, Bob was ultimately hoist by his own petard at City. Hated the way it was handled, but it seems it was inevitably going to end in tears.

 

[Dribble]

1) I love Mancini. Thought he was brilliant for us and is rightly held in very high esteem by a lot of us.

2) I'm an invisible, a nobody on the internet, so this probably counts for nothing as well (other than I hold Mancini in the same very high regard in spite of this), however I know PB and respect his point of view. He also has impeccable contacts within football in general, and City in particular. The things that have been alluded to about what was going wrong behind the scenes can, sadly, be taken as accurate/correct.

That said, I agree wholeheartedly with your last sentence. Bob is responsible for at least 10 of the best footballing days in my sad and empty life.

What was going on behind the scenes? Was he eating supporters babies? I've heard nothing yet to convince me that the hysteria whipped up by the Mancini outer's is anything more than idle gossip. Like I said, I want them to add credence to what they 'allude' to.... It can't be that hard to do!

There's been plenty written on these boards already about it mate.

Like I say - I'm a big fan of Bob's and am keeping a watchful eye on his progress at Galatasaray (see "Mancini Thread" in General Football). He is a fucking City legend to me and I thought he had it all - I often posted I felt he was going to be like Cloughie. However, Bob was ultimately hoist by his own petard at City. Hated the way it was handled, but it seems it was inevitably going to end in tears.

I feel like the odd one out now. I must be the only person who's not heard these horrible, horrible things that Mancini is supposed to have done. It's a wonder how he escaped the country without the police catching him first.

I take it what he did was soooo bad that Interpol have now set up a massive man-hunt for him.......

Please, please, please someone put me out of my misery and tell me what Bob's supposed to have done. If its that bad PM me. I can assure you after a couple of cans of Special Brew, I can withstand anything........ :-)