Would there not be a case to say that doing this and hoping to achieve a good points tally and get something in Madrid is being complacent?cibaman said:Mancini seems to be prepared to sacrifice early season form and results for the sake of getting things right for the season as a whole.
He's made sure that all of the new signings have had opportunities. He's experimented with different systems. He's decided to ease Silva into the season.
He could simply have stuck with last season's system and personnel (to the extent that they are fit), concentrated on getting a good start and then ease in the new players. But he's clearly searching for that extra 10% improvement. At least he cannot be accused of being complacent.
cookster said:salfordblues said:Pam said:Moronic thread.
Pathetic response.
The OP has gone too far in his criticism of Mancini but there's a few valid arguments made in the thread as a whole. This is not a Mancini out thread, it's a discussion about certain decisions he's made and whether or not they have had a positive effect and whether in fact there was a better option to take.
Gone too far in his criticism
WTF I didn't criticise at all. It was an open question expressing what I view to be the minimum acheivement based on the squad we have at our disposal.
As for Pam's comments on it being moronic, I just look at your posting history and LOL
you were dying to mention York away, weren't you?LeKoa said:Some of the comments on this thread are beyond parody.
5 games in, no losses, two difficult away points at Stoke and Arsenal, and only the second concession of points at home in almost two years. Why the panic?
Yes,we haven't found any rhythm yet this season - but it has happening now and not mid-season as it did in the last campaign.
Mancini's second-half tactics were spot on. He was let down by the players. Mancini elected to allow Arsenal to have possession but contain them in the middle of the field - hence, Rodwell replaces Sinclair. This strategy dictates that you must be clinical on the counter-attack when you regain possession. On at least four occasions, Silva and Yaya failed to do this. As a team, we are used to possession and slowly creeping into the opposition box. It just didn't work out yesterday. A draw was a fair result.
So far this season, Kompany, Silva, and Mancini have all faltered slightly on match day. They have also all signed new, five-year contracts.
Why? Because they are class - and the foundation of the club (amongst others).
Some of the frankly embarrassing knee-jerk reactions on this thread point towards johnny-come-lately 'fans' who couldn't gauge progress if it bit them in the arse.
Patience is a virtue.
Some of you should try it.
Forza Mancini.
LeKoa said:Some of the comments on this thread are beyond parody.
5 games in, no losses, two difficult away points at Stoke and Arsenal, and only the second concession of points at home in almost two years. Why the panic?
Yes,we haven't found any rhythm yet this season - but it has happening now and not mid-season as it did in the last campaign.
Mancini's second-half tactics were spot on. He was let down by the players. Mancini elected to allow Arsenal to have possession but contain them in the middle of the field - hence, Rodwell replaces Sinclair. This strategy dictates that you must be clinical on the counter-attack when you regain possession. On at least four occasions, Silva and Yaya failed to do this. As a team, we are used to possession and slowly creeping into the opposition box. It just didn't work out yesterday. A draw was a fair result.
So far this season, Kompany, Silva, and Mancini have all faltered slightly on match day. They have also all signed new, five-year contracts.
Why? Because they are class - and the foundation of the club (amongst others).
Some of the frankly embarrassing knee-jerk reactions on this thread point towards johnny-come-lately 'fans' who couldn't gauge progress if it bit them in the arse.
Patience is a virtue.
Some of you should try it.
Forza Mancini.
cibaman said:Mancini seems to be prepared to sacrifice early season form and results for the sake of getting things right for the season as a whole.
He's made sure that all of the new signings have had opportunities. He's experimented with different systems. He's decided to ease Silva into the season.
He could simply have stuck with last season's system and personnel (to the extent that they are fit), concentrated on getting a good start and then ease in the new players. But he's clearly searching for that extra 10% improvement. At least he cannot be accused of being complacent.
robbieh said:I have always thought that Ferguson is a pretty poor tactician. His style of play is functional rather than sophisticated. The great beauty of his system is that it creates loads of chances so that they win when they are playing shit. At least in England.
However in Europe they are frequently embarrassed by teams with more technique. Due to his protected species status he is rarely criticized in the press. He blew an 8 point lead. Deafening silence from the redtops and broadsheets alike. We have had a slightly stuttering start and the knives are out for RM already.
We are the opposite of United in that we are trying to play modern football. Although beaten in Madrid we are getting there.
Mancini is juggling with players, new and old, style and system.
Hence their is an element of confusion. But like Chelsea, under Mourinho, we are very difficult to beat even when poor.
Hopefully the butterfly will emerge from its chrysalis soon.
I can give you a very simple and clear definition of 'johnny cum lately'.Mancio said:my english is too poor so maybe i dont understand what 'johnny come (cum) latelys' really means....
anyway i think there are a lot of thats 'johnny come (cum) latelys' here.
at least everybody that in their life never saw their team playing on a sunday game after having played real madrid midweek and consequently criticising their own team without understand what kind of drain that sort of match bring.
all the above , obviously , if i have understood what 'johnny come (cum) latelys' is intended to means