Manuel Pellegrini (cont)

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blueinsa said:
flb said:
blueinsa said:
Pellergrini is being let down by his midfield at the moment and its the biggest weak link we have. Going forward they are fantastic but defensively, almost to a man they are going missing and when teams park the bus and break at us, just look at our defence having to face a quick break almost on their own with more often than not, us sat on the edge of our box and the midfielders are not even in sight. For me if thats the way we are going to play then its a case of getting the players in that will do their jobs correctly and its something i think is going to happen.

Just on AK. teams parking the bus like last night at home dont need Clichy who is a far better defender. They need someone like AK who can get forward and whip his crosses in and thats what we normally see selection wise.

Navas presses as does Silva, and so does Milner & Sergio does his fair share, the rest don't do it or don't like doing it week in week out, the two striker system and two defensive midfielders only works effectively if all are doing it, for me some of them don't think they should be doing namely Nasri and Yaya-I'd fuck the pair of them off to be honest and get some steel in there who do as the Manager asks.

Changes are going to be made this summer and some big names are going to be upset.

They possibly already know, hence them not ripping up many trees of late?


Maybe we need to manage the changes better in that case. Perhaps wait until the seasons over.
 
supercity88 said:
flb said:
There seems to be something going on in the background at City, or so it appears.

Baffling squad selection last night as many have said, Navas out Navas in, Ditto Fernandinho & Nasri

And the biggest one for me is Kolorov over Clichy- i will never ever understand how that lazy cigar smoking shit pulls on a blue shirt ever regardless of who we are playing.

Its not having a dig at Manuel here but what the fuck is he doing?

Did you miss Kolarov's ball in that led to us scoring???

Interesting.

It wasn't baffling at all. It's been a busy schedule including a huge CL tie and a trip to Anfield. At home against a team like Leicester who were going to stay compact defensively, it made sense to play Kolarov because of his delivery, Navas for pace and because Nasri was anonymous in both the Barca and Liverpool games. Fernandinho was a call that I wouldn't have made, I would only play Fernando in a 3 man midfield, but Pellegrini believes otherwise and we won so there's no issue.


Even a broken clock is right twice a day, If you look at how many times he tried to deliver a ball and failed then great he actually put one in that turned into a goal-he's shit and getting one good ball in out of twenty is crap-and he cant defend and don't tell me he can.

Traffic cone Fernando again last night, they waltzed past him at times-waste of time in a two like you say.

Poor quality first half better second-seems to be a way of life at City this season-whatever he says at the half time certainly works I will give him that.
 
GaudinoMotors said:
blueinsa said:
flb said:
Navas presses as does Silva, and so does Milner & Sergio does his fair share, the rest don't do it or don't like doing it week in week out, the two striker system and two defensive midfielders only works effectively if all are doing it, for me some of them don't think they should be doing namely Nasri and Yaya-I'd fuck the pair of them off to be honest and get some steel in there who do as the Manager asks.

Changes are going to be made this summer and some big names are going to be upset.

They possibly already know, hence them not ripping up many trees of late?


Maybe we need to manage the changes better in that case. Perhaps wait until the seasons over.

In a perfect world id agree but would argue in modern football and the politics surrounding moves and agents, its nigh on impossible to keep anything quiet within the game itself.
 
blueinsa said:
flb said:
blueinsa said:
Pellergrini is being let down by his midfield at the moment and its the biggest weak link we have. Going forward they are fantastic but defensively, almost to a man they are going missing and when teams park the bus and break at us, just look at our defence having to face a quick break almost on their own with more often than not, us sat on the edge of our box and the midfielders are not even in sight. For me if thats the way we are going to play then its a case of getting the players in that will do their jobs correctly and its something i think is going to happen.

Just on AK. teams parking the bus like last night at home dont need Clichy who is a far better defender. They need someone like AK who can get forward and whip his crosses in and thats what we normally see selection wise.

Navas presses as does Silva, and so does Milner & Sergio does his fair share, the rest don't do it or don't like doing it week in week out, the two striker system and two defensive midfielders only works effectively if all are doing it, for me some of them don't think they should be doing namely Nasri and Yaya-I'd fuck the pair of them off to be honest and get some steel in there who do as the Manager asks.

Changes are going to be made this summer and some big names are going to be upset.

They possibly already know, hence them not ripping up many trees of late?

I just think it's a natural evolution mate. Teams work in cycles, and this team has been together for a quite a few years now. They are also getting on in age as well. It sort of makes sense that they aren't quite as hungry as consistently as they have been previously. And also it's worth baring in mind that a lot of what we're currently seeing was there in Mancini's title winning season too. This group of players has always had the capacity, even the top ones including Kun and Silva, to pick and choose when they want to put the work in.

For me I think there will be a rebuild this summer, but I think that it's something that will suit everyone involved including the players who are moving to new pastures for new motivations.
 
Mister Appointment said:
blueinsa said:
flb said:
Navas presses as does Silva, and so does Milner & Sergio does his fair share, the rest don't do it or don't like doing it week in week out, the two striker system and two defensive midfielders only works effectively if all are doing it, for me some of them don't think they should be doing namely Nasri and Yaya-I'd fuck the pair of them off to be honest and get some steel in there who do as the Manager asks.

Changes are going to be made this summer and some big names are going to be upset.

They possibly already know, hence them not ripping up many trees of late?

I just think it's a natural evolution mate. Teams work in cycles, and this team has been together for a quite a few years now. They are also getting on in age as well. It sort of makes sense that they aren't quite as hungry as consistently as they have been previously. And also it's worth baring in mind that a lot of what we're currently seeing was there in Mancini's title winning season too. This group of players has always had the capacity, even the top ones including Kun and Silva, to pick and choose when they want to put the work in.

For me I think there will be a rebuild this summer, but I think that it's something that will suit everyone involved including the players who are moving to new pastures for new motivations.

Agree completely, especially the comment on Silva for whom no matter how good he is, can switch it on and off like a tap sometimes.
 
pml79 said:
simon23 said:
While I agree with his shaking up/refreshing of the team for the Leicester game and also going 4-4-2 for the game (we shouldnt need to defend that much against the bottom of the league team) I think tonight highlighted how in fact weak our 4-4-2 set up is as Leicester on a number of occasions had far too much space to run into in front of our back 4......if Leicester can do it then better teams will and have certainly punished us.....we dont have the players to play 4-4-2 against decent opposition...fine against the likes of Leicester as we should still overpower them but not against the bigger teams and here in lies the criticism of Pellers - he doesnt adapt at all to the opposition in front of him hence why we struggle against better teams.......

intresting that tonight that once we went 4-5-1, Leicester didnt have one opportunity that i can remember to run straight at our two centre halves....it happened on 2-3 occasions in the first half however.
it happened in the second half too we was too open yaya is not a def midfielder he should be further up with silva n nasri n keep the two ferns infront of the back four

it did happen in the second half you are right but not after we went to 5 in midfield...the only chance then was when they hit the post which was all down to a dreadful Kolorov clearance from a hopeful cross from the right hand side...
 
Apologies to all if I display tactical naivety but just a comment about James Milner.

There seems to be a feeling that from a pure football point of view he is not in the same class as some of our 'stars'. Yet he appears to be valuable to the team for his tireless work rate.

If this is the case my question is why the other players cannot work in a similar way. We saw all the Barca players working tirelessly when they lost the ball recently so perhaps I should be asking why all our players seem unable to be as hard working ?.
 
bugsyblue said:
chris85mcfc said:
bugsyblue said:
Haha, you're forgetting the best player on the park who was shoulders above everyone else tonight. Also Joe Hart was second best player after their keeper.

Perhaps we watched a different game

Serious? You don't think Silva was MOM?

Silva playing well isn't something I would class as a positive to take from a game, as that is what you expect from a top class player.

My post was more aiming towards players that may fly under the radar in some games and go unnoticed, so in that respect I thought Mangala and Demichelis both had good games and we looked a bit more solid. I also thought Sagna had a decent game as well.

It's easy to sit here and say Silva was MOTM, as he quite rightly was. But In a game as piss poor as that I guess its nice to be able to take a couple of positives from what was a completely abysmal performance.
 
SilverFox2 said:
Apologies to all if I display tactical naivety but just a comment about James Milner.

There seems to be a feeling that from a pure football point of view he is not in the same class as some of our 'stars'. Yet he appears to be valuable to the team for his tireless work rate.

If this is the case my question is why the other players cannot work in a similar way. We saw all the Barca players working tirelessly when they lost the ball recently so perhaps I should be asking why all our players seem unable to be as hard working ?.

Its a good point mate and something that affected Bob and now Pellegrini.

We have a few players happy to go forward but just wont do anything defensively and they need to go.
 
GaudinoMotors said:
blueinsa said:
flb said:
Navas presses as does Silva, and so does Milner & Sergio does his fair share, the rest don't do it or don't like doing it week in week out, the two striker system and two defensive midfielders only works effectively if all are doing it, for me some of them don't think they should be doing namely Nasri and Yaya-I'd fuck the pair of them off to be honest and get some steel in there who do as the Manager asks.

Changes are going to be made this summer and some big names are going to be upset.

They possibly already know, hence them not ripping up many trees of late?


Maybe we need to manage the changes better in that case. Perhaps wait until the seasons over.


I due genuinely sympathise with Manuel, he's a proud man who plays his system, it was a joy to watch last year, we have some slackers in the team with no sufficient work rate for his system, they blow hot and cold-it works one game then not the next, it works one half of a game and not the other. I bet he's banging his head against a brick wall-this is probably why he keeps changing the team each game.This could be the reason there may be a b it of unrest-the lads who do it week in week out are propping up the rest.

Like I have said the two big time charlies can go for me.
 
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