Manuel Pellegrini (cont)

[chris85mcfc]

Can see a lot more people noticing what a few of us have been saying for a few months

And yet we were hounded out for having those opinions, only on Bluemoon

I think a few people have invested so much praise in Pellegrini that they can no longer see the wood from the trees

 

[BillyShears]

I hear Exeters comments and kind of agree but he is the manager and if he cant get simple selections right and motivate the team then its curtains.

To be honest mate, unless Pep suddenly quits as Bayern coach, Pellegrini's going absolutely nowhere this summer. Far too many people aren't really taking a step back and looking at the bigger picture. Yes yesterday was a bad bad day, and yes we've had too many of those this season, but Pellegrini has the respect of the people who back him or sack him. I don't for one moment envisage a scenario where they go "hey lets sack him for finishing 2nd/3rd - it's not good enough". He may well have a "not good enough" season, but he'll get another chance to fix it. Especially as I suspect there'll be an influx of players who can actually change the pace and tempo of a game come the summer.

 

[Exeter Blue I am here]

Can see a lot more people noticing what a few of us have been saying for a few months

And yet we were hounded out for having those opinions, only on Bluemoon

I think a few people have invested so much praise in Pellegrini that they can no longer see the wood from the trees

Gotta love Bluemoon. Barring the rags and Taggart, and the Arse and Wenger, virtually every manager falters and gets the sack eventually, and sure as eggs is eggs, out come the trumpeting experts - gainfully employed as bank tellers, hairdressers and scaffolders - to tell us they knew it all along, but were mercilessly hounded out of Bluemoon for their beliefs, like Jews from the Pale of Settlement.

 

[Bill]

not making excuses for the players or the manager but i think the referee should do more to keep the game a spectacle. sure teams will come and park the bus but the timewasting is a disgrace. they were at it from the third minute. the ref should card them early doors and ok they still park a bus but it gives us the right amount of time break them down. if then we dont we only have ourselves to blame. that keeper yesterday was terrible, the ref for some reason wasn't even watching. i saw him looking the other way completely. both sets of fans are there to be entertained, at the money they now charge for attending no club anywhere should suffer a bore draw due to keepers oulling every stunt, players rolling about and so on. card a keeper early, or a throw in taker and they will soon buck up. then its up to us.

 

[blueinsa]

I hear Exeters comments and kind of agree but he is the manager and if he cant get simple selections right and motivate the team then its curtains.

To be honest mate, unless Pep suddenly quits as Bayern coach, Pellegrini's going absolutely nowhere this summer. Far too many people aren't really taking a step back and looking at the bigger picture. Yes yesterday was a bad bad day, and yes we've had too many of those this season, but Pellegrini has the respect of the people who back him or sack him. I don't for one moment envisage a scenario where they go "hey lets sack him for finishing 2nd/3rd - it's not good enough". He may well have a "not good enough" season, but he'll get another chance to fix it. Especially as I suspect there'll be an influx of players who can actually change the pace and tempo of a game come the summer.

I would agree with that mate but if this malaise continues and top 4 does become a worry he will get the boot but then it falls on Txiki because as Exeter says, rightly so, we have coaches not managers and they are being given tools to work with rather than being allowed to pick their own and more to the point, they are being told how to do the job.

This is like ground hog day all over again and Bobs final season.

He still got it so wrong yesterday its untrue, the first 45 was horrific given the talent out on that pitch, horrific.

 

[BillyShears]

not making excuses for the players or the manager but i think the referee should do more to keep the game a spectacle. sure teams will come and park the bus but the timewasting is a disgrace. they were at it from the third minute. the ref should card them early doors and ok they still park a bus but it gives us the right amount of time break them down. if then we dont we only have ourselves to blame. that keeper yesterday was terrible, the ref for some reason wasn't even watching. i saw him looking the other way completely. both sets of fans are there to be entertained, at the money they now charge for attending no club anywhere should suffer a bore draw due to keepers oulling every stunt, players rolling about and so on. card a keeper early, or a throw in taker and they will soon buck up. then its up to us.

You can't blame the ref for yesterday's abortive performance. The manager and players let themselves down to such an enormous extent that I'm not bothered about whether Silva should've had a pen or anything like that. There's moments where you can look at officiating and say it had a serious impact on the match, but yesterday wasn't one of those days for me.

 

[quiet_riot]

not making excuses for the players or the manager but i think the referee should do more to keep the game a spectacle. sure teams will come and park the bus but the timewasting is a disgrace. they were at it from the third minute. the ref should card them early doors and ok they still park a bus but it gives us the right amount of time break them down. if then we dont we only have ourselves to blame. that keeper yesterday was terrible, the ref for some reason wasn't even watching. i saw him looking the other way completely. both sets of fans are there to be entertained, at the money they now charge for attending no club anywhere should suffer a bore draw due to keepers oulling every stunt, players rolling about and so on. card a keeper early, or a throw in taker and they will soon buck up. then its up to us.

You have some serious issues regarding referees.

 

[blueinsa]

Can see a lot more people noticing what a few of us have been saying for a few months

And yet we were hounded out for having those opinions, only on Bluemoon

I think a few people have invested so much praise in Pellegrini that they can no longer see the wood from the trees

Hounded out pmsl.

They got fucking banned for being racist twats end of and I have the posts saved to prove it if you want to go there?

Leave it out Chris ffs.

 

[Nascent Blues]

Can see a lot more people noticing what a few of us have been saying for a few months

And yet we were hounded out for having those opinions, only on Bluemoon

I think a few people have invested so much praise in Pellegrini that they can no longer see the wood from the trees

Gotta love Bluemoon. Barring the rags and Taggart, and the Arse and Wenger, virtually every manager falters and gets the sack eventually, and sure as eggs is eggs, out come the trumpeting experts - gainfully employed as bank tellers, hairdressers and scaffolders - to tell us they knew it all along, but were mercilessly hounded out of Bluemoon for their beliefs, like Jews from the Pale of Settlement.

You made a statement wishing that other posters would put forward an alternative to the 'we nee to show more passion' brigade, to which I replied. I'm not desperate for you to answer my post, desperate to be proved right and I'm definitely not a 'trumpeting expert', but that team selection was wrong in my eyes and I've explained why. I could be ripped apart for my lack of football knowledge from those that are in a far greater position to dissect such footballing conundrums, and that's fine. However, your descent into the ''trumpeting experts' routine, especially when considering this is a forum for discussion, is bemusing to say the least.

 

[BillyShears]

I hear Exeters comments and kind of agree but he is the manager and if he cant get simple selections right and motivate the team then its curtains.

To be honest mate, unless Pep suddenly quits as Bayern coach, Pellegrini's going absolutely nowhere this summer. Far too many people aren't really taking a step back and looking at the bigger picture. Yes yesterday was a bad bad day, and yes we've had too many of those this season, but Pellegrini has the respect of the people who back him or sack him. I don't for one moment envisage a scenario where they go "hey lets sack him for finishing 2nd/3rd - it's not good enough". He may well have a "not good enough" season, but he'll get another chance to fix it. Especially as I suspect there'll be an influx of players who can actually change the pace and tempo of a game come the summer.

I would agree with that mate but if this malaise continues and top 4 does become a worry he will get the boot but then it falls on Txiki because as Exeter says, rightly so, we have coaches not managers and they are being given tools to work with rather than being allowed to pick their own and more to the point, they are being told how to do the job.

This is like ground hog day all over again and Bobs final season.

He still got it so wrong yesterday its untrue, the first 45 was horrific given the talent out on that pitch, horrific.

I think fears about the top 4 are utterly unfounded. The players won't have woken up this morning to given up on the title. I won't repeat the same 'we won it from behind before' mantra, but I will say that there's only two teams capable of going on a 13/14 match unbeaten run in this league. Us and Chelsea.

Maybe we won't win the title, but we won't be slipping further down the league table. That's just a irrational reaction to yesterday's poor performance.

I'd be more worried if that type of performance was put in against Chelsea last weekend or against Barca in the upcoming CL fixture. We've always know that this collection of players have that kind of 2nd gear performance in them, especially at home against inferior opposition. The manager has to take a huge share of the responsibility for not eradicating that complacency and lack of urgency but it's not something which makes me think "oh no we're going to finish 3rd/4th".

I'm happy we've got another match coming round quickly. We need a win, then we need Yaya back and Bony in the side so we can stop playing the Balkans.