Marc-Andre ter Stegen

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The hilarious thing about all of this comment is that Joe is one of the most skilfull footballing Keepers I have ever seen.
He really could have made it as an outfield player - as you would know if you have ever seen him train.
Phenomenal Keepy up skills, Regularly hitting the bar with the ball from anywhere between 5 and 30 yards, Possession Drills, Rabona...
Then there is overarm throwing into bins 20 yards away.
Quite simply, previous managers never wanted to take the risk!
 
BlueAnorak said:
The hilarious thing about all of this comment is that Joe is one of the most skilfull footballing Keepers I have ever seen.
He really could have made it as an outfield player - as you would know if you have ever seen him train.
Phenomenal Keepy up skills, Regularly hitting the bar with the ball from anywhere between 5 and 30 yards, Possession Drills, Rabona...
Quite simply, previous managers never wanted to take the risk!
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If this was even remotely true, why would we be looking for a new number 1?
 
BlueAnorak said:
The hilarious thing about all of this comment is that Joe is one of the most skilfull footballing Keepers I have ever seen.
He really could have made it as an outfield player - as you would know if you have ever seen him train.
Phenomenal Keepy up skills, Regularly hitting the bar with the ball from anywhere between 5 and 30 yards, Possession Drills, Rabona...
Then there is overarm throwing into bins 20 yards away.
Quite simply, previous managers never wanted to take the risk!
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Taking the piss now
 
Well we won't be spending that money on a keeper that ter Stegen would cost and thats for sure.
We've buying/bought an Argentinian to replace Callabreo next summer.
Lets say where we are in two weeks time shall we when Pep has seen him train.
 
mosssideblue said:
Taking the piss now
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Seriously I'm not. There are vids all over You Tube of Hart doing this stuff in training.
Find them for yourselves as I ain't going to spoon feed you.
Our main issue has been with Pellers defensive tactics.
For example Joe certainly used to throw the ball out regularly under Mancini - but not under Pellers,
 
When Pants took over in goal a couple of seasons ago, the defenders split across the penalty area to allow him to pass it to them. Hart came back in and they just stood in front again until he waved them forward and hoofed it into the stand. I'm therefore not sure how much Hart is to blame and how much is down to the defenders.

Seeing Lescott or Mangala trying to control the ball and then usually give it back is completely different to what happens at Bayern where Neuer passes to a player who's marked. If Pep can get the defenders and midfield playing how he wants, Hart should be less of an issue and hopefully he can improve simple passes as required.

Not an area of be strengthening this summer unless we can get a mad price for Hart meaning Stegen would be a profit.
 
mosssideblue said:
I just find it bizarre that you have such a need to frequent this site as often as you do, but to start calling one of our players out (and in the manner in which you do it) IMO, is simply not on. I'm not taking issue with any blue having a debate on whether Joe is finished or not as we simply don't know what pep is thinking. Having a Stokie coming on trying to tell us he is, is unbelievable Jeff
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Well if you have a problem that is your problem alone, i have explained myself many times and its getting old hat now...never once did i "call him out". Its not like i'm saying he's shit, i'm saying he's DONE under pep. Upgrading hart should be seen as positive progression in peps system, to take offense imho is ridiculous whoever makes that comment....hell, even if i was a rag for instance. Him being done means the squad is moving forward for the better. I'd be very pleased to have him at stoke if we didn't have butland.

I've been knocking around here long enough now to not have to keep having this same old conversation. Now for goodness sake can we drop this and move on once and for all...?
 
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mavsmcfc said:
Mate, nobody is saying we boot Joe out now. We all want to give him a chance and he should get a chance from Pep. But I'm just not convinced that he would be able to adapt. If he can? Great, problem solved.

It's not going to matter if we have great midfielders with great positioning, the keeper can't hit the target it's all moot point anyway.

Everyone was raving about the young lad (Tosin), and yes it's true his composure could use a bit of work. But the thing is the kid is barely 19. He has plenty of time to work on his mistakes and moreover he could work on his mistakes on lower-pressure games while he's on loan or in cup games. Joe on the other hand won't have that opportunity. Pep's not going to risk it in PL games let alone CL games.
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and in goalkeeping terms Joe Hart is still learning as well.

Of all the players in our squad Hart you can almost guarantee will work the hardest to build on his weak areas. His character won't allow him not to and so he will get his chance (or should)
 
simon23 said:
and in goalkeeping terms Joe Hart is still learning as well.

Of all the players in our squad Hart you can almost guarantee will work the hardest to build on his weak areas. His character won't allow him not to and so he will get his chance (or should)
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Can't disagree with that.

I'm sure he will make a huge effort & I hope it works.
 
mosssideblue said:
Catching
Distribution accuracy
Distribution Speed
Command of his area
Ball control at his feet

Do you think he is strong in these areas?
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His command of his area is good. He is a leader in there, you can hear him instructing other players what to do and he takes charge of anything that comes into the 6 yd area (our back four especially the fullbacks have been very culpable of not defending the mid/back post area over the last few seasons when balls are coming into the box.

most goal keepers tend to punch nowadays when under pressure and hart is certainly good at that as well..his catching when the right thing to do is absolutely fine.
we've all said that his distribution is his weak point so I'm not sure why you have put that down (twice) - maybe to try and emphasise a point??????

His ball control with his feet is fine....his distribution is where the work is needed not his actual control of a football with his feet..so like i said ....your other points are just irrelevant

Just wondering if you saw the everton/utd friendly last night...that gk de gea that everyone touts as one f the best making an absolute howler with a back pass to him and conceding a corner.

All gk's will make mistakes with the ball at their feet. Yes Hart can get better with his distribution, no one is saying he doesn't need to. (well Im certainly not anyway) but he is fantastic keeper and one we are lucky to have

The main point I've been making is that there are other areas of the squad that need attention before the keeper does....we will have a budget of some sort and that money should be spent on other areas that are much more critical. Central midfield, left back being two at least
 
simon23 said:
His command of his area is good. He is a leader in there, you can hear him instructing other players what to do and he takes charge of anything that comes into the 6 yd area (our back four especially the fullbacks have been very culpable of not defending the mid/back post area over the last few seasons when balls are coming into the box.

most goal keepers tend to punch nowadays when under pressure and hart is certainly good at that as well..his catching when the right thing to do is absolutely fine.
we've all said that his distribution is his weak point so I'm not sure why you have put that down (twice) - maybe to try and emphasise a point??????

His ball control with his feet is fine....his distribution is where the work is needed not his actual control of a football with his feet..so like i said ....your other points are just irrelevant

Just wondering if you saw the everton/utd friendly last night...that gk de gea that everyone touts as one f the best making an absolute howler with a back pass to him and conceding a corner.

All gk's will make mistakes with the ball at their feet. Yes Hart can get better with his distribution, no one is saying he doesn't need to. (well Im certainly not anyway) but he is fantastic keeper and one we are lucky to have
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Not sure DeGea is actually one of the best if he's asked to be a sweeper keeper though. Seems to panic under pressure to me.
 
Neville Kneville said:
Not sure DeGea is actually one of the best if he's asked to be a sweeper keeper though. Seems to panic under pressure to me.
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fully agree...its just some on here think he is better than hart...I don't think he is....Like Ive said before people are just buying into the media bullshit. De Gea makes tonnes of mistakes (ones for which if Hart made them would be back page news (just like the one in the friendly vs Everton) If Hart was to make one say vs arsenal on sunday you can bet your life numerous media outlets along with some people on here would use it as a battering ram to try and force their point across whereas last nights mistake by DeGea isn't even mentioned by anyone anywhere.
 
simon23 said:
and in goalkeeping terms Joe Hart is still learning as well.

Of all the players in our squad Hart you can almost guarantee will work the hardest to build on his weak areas. His character won't allow him not to and so he will get his chance (or should)
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We never question his desire and dedication to work on it. But the question is, will he be able to adapt and how long would it be? If Pep only stays for 3 years, are you ready to waste a year out of those 3 having Pep's playing system being compromised?
 
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simon23 said:
His command of his area is good. He is a leader in there, you can hear him instructing other players what to do and he takes charge of anything that comes into the 6 yd area (our back four especially the fullbacks have been very culpable of not defending the mid/back post area over the last few seasons when balls are coming into the box.

most goal keepers tend to punch nowadays when under pressure and hart is certainly good at that as well..his catching when the right thing to do is absolutely fine.
we've all said that his distribution is his weak point so I'm not sure why you have put that down (twice) - maybe to try and emphasise a point??????

His ball control with his feet is fine....his distribution is where the work is needed not his actual control of a football with his feet..so like i said ....your other points are just irrelevant

Just wondering if you saw the everton/utd friendly last night...that gk de gea that everyone touts as one f the best making an absolute howler with a back pass to him and conceding a corner.

All gk's will make mistakes with the ball at their feet. Yes Hart can get better with his distribution, no one is saying he doesn't need to. (well Im certainly not anyway) but he is fantastic keeper and one we are lucky to have

The main point I've been making is that there are other areas of the squad that need attention before the keeper does....we will have a budget of some sort and that money should be spent on other areas that are much more critical. Central midfield, left back being two at least
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Well we will have to agree to disagree as I think we have been watching different keepers
 
simon23 said:
fully agree...its just some on here think he is better than hart...I don't think he is....Like Ive said before people are just buying into the media bullshit. De Gea makes tonnes of mistakes (ones for which if Hart made them would be back page news (just like the one in the friendly vs Everton) If Hart was to make one say vs arsenal on sunday you can bet your life numerous media outlets along with some people on here would use it as a battering ram to try and force their point across whereas last nights mistake by DeGea isn't even mentioned by anyone anywhere.
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Why do you feel people who have a different view to you have to be following or buying into media BS? I for one have judged Hart on what I see.
 
mavsmcfc said:
We never question his desire and dedication to work on it. But the question is, will he be able to adapt and how long would it be? If Pep only stays for 3 years, are you ready to waste a year out of those 3 having Pep's playing system being compromised?
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Compromised how? By having one of the worlds top 5 GOALKEEPERS in net.
Goalkeeper, keeper of the goal....someone to provent the ball entering the goal.
Far far to many people going over the top and pretending they're football analysers, he's a goalkeeper, he's there to prevent goals 1stly and most importantly, and he's in my opinion very good at that. Best one on one stopper in the world.
 
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