Back on topic, I think there's very little chance of us signing Stegen. We're far more likely to get Bravo I would've thought.
The usual suspects can never resist though, eh.People have been ignoring you? You surprise me ;)
You won't see this but c'mon Marvin, saying you're having a nightmare is hardly insulting you. Unless you're just a bit soft.What is the point of discussing football with people who just go on and insult you? I really don't understand this mentality. You're on ignore. I see quite a lot of this on this message board, and it's out of order.
I agree that Hart just doesn't fit Guardiola's blueprint of a goalkeeper and if he were to be replaced it should be by a one very comfortable on the ball, just don't think it should be by this one.
Put your tin hat on fella...far to positive a post for this thread.....incoming!for everything hart has done for us, he deserves a chance. talent wise he is one of the best goalies in the league and has been one of our best players. he can play the ball out and i would think it will be easier now with players like stones infrotn of him.
This is an example of everything wrong with the argument against ter Stegen.
For starters, how easy would it be to post some of Hart's well documented blunders? I could also find a few of these scored against Neuer, is he not good enough either?
It doesn't matter if a right back hits a 1 in a million lucky shot from half way and lobs your keeper.
The odds are so astronomically low that no one would trade that risk for all of the benefits you get from a sweeper keeper in the Guardiola/Barcelona system.
Benefits which lead to Barcelona absolutely embarrassing us that year in the CL on their way to winning it (while Roma went out in the group stages).
Not to mention that's a 23 year old goalkeeper - they're going to make the odd mistake positionally when given such a more complicated role than the one traditional keepers have. Like I said, you can find quite a few of these happened to Neuer in his early 20's but they're all but gone now.
I don't prefer Ter Stegen but posting his errors is a stupid argument. Those were made before Barca bought him, surely if he makes those mistakes so regularly he is worse than a League 1 keeper?
It's been said by many, and I agree, that whilst Joe might develop more confidence on the ball his speed of thought might never get to where he needs to be to implement the style of play Pep wants to see. We will be able to see very quickly what happens in that regard. I noticed Pep clapping when Caballero tried to pass out under pressure, though it was an abysmal attempt. Clearly he's happier seeing the team play to his requirements even when everything in my head is screaming if in doubt kick it out!
That's the main reason I'm very nervous going into this season. I've not seen any improvement from Caballero in terms of ability to pass out under pressure. I've seen numerous mistakes from our defenders, though Otamendi and Stones should be more assured. I'd like to have seen more from Hart but trust that in training they'll be doing it day in day out under intense pressing from the players on the other team in the training scenario.
It's obvious to most of us that we need a keeper comfortable on the ball to give Hart real pressure to improve in that area and retain the no.1 spot. The club have known Pep was to arrive for a while but we've not done a huge amount for the right now in terms of keeper and defence. I get reasoning behind holding fire on midfield targets because waiting in the hope we can pursuade Kroos/Alcantara to sign will transform us significantly in comparison to buying what we can now and we'll still see a huge improvement in our midfield simply with the addition of Gundogan and Pep's tactics.
Defensively though, you can either play his system or you can't and at the moment I'm nervous about it going into our first game. If any other side watched the Arsenal game they'll see that it remains very easy to get at our defence and that through pressing us they'll create chances with ease. It might be a case that until we nail that we'll just have to score more than we concede which Pep has alluded to when talking about Stones (to some degree) - when he said he might make a mistake that leads to a couple of goals a season but through playing out from the back can start a move that leads to 8 or 9 goals...
Point is he was naff on the ball before Barcelona and now he is decent due to practice etc in that role...Same could apply to Hart given the chance? Joe probably still has nightmares of Kolo and Nastasic whenever he's tried to play sweeper, but practice and familiarity in the role and he could do just fine. It's just that i'd rather Joe was given a chance than pay over £60mil for an overall inferior keeper.
He was naff on the ball before Barcelona?
Jesus Christ. That's just patently untrue, why do people come on here and just bullshit thinking it won't get picked up on?
He was seen as Neuer's heir before going to Barcelona, and thought of as better on the ball.
That's why Barcelona bought him FFS. If you feel the need to lie to make Hart improving on the ball more plausible then it shows how weak the argument is.
My bad was just tarring him with the same brush as many of you are our own.....I mean he had similar kicking stats at BM as Joe did under Mancini and Joe is considered naff?
Injured apparently according to Twitter, so that's that then. No Ter stegen or Bravo now presumably.
Gundogen was injured and we signed him
Yes its more noticeable a GK but we do have alternatives.
How long does it say he's injured for