Marc Cucurella

[Keepingthefaithsince1976]

Haha brilliant. It was a nightmare to navigate!

Same with holidays if I remember correctly.

I thought it was dead easy. Bbc page 302, itv page 410 for all footy related stuff.

 

[Stiff Little Wingers]

How do you know Cucurella is not a gem? You're also omitting Foden and Grealish in that 2 years ago one was making his way and the other wasn't here...I think a front 6 of Haaland, Mahrez, Foden, Grealish, Alvarez and Palmer with Bernardo also an option is plenty good enough...would i object to one more attacking player coming in...absolutely not, but who?...and not if it means we don't get a LB or replace Ake (if he were to go)...who are we talking about?
Leao, Antony, Gnabry, Zaniolo, Felix, Oyarzabal, Diaby?...Would someone like Bowen or Olmos fit the bill?...thoughts?...

Not trying to pick a fight. I think if he was a gem we would already have signed him a la Grealish. But obviously if we do sign him I hope he’s great.... although like most he will need a season to bed in.
Yes but as I said, 2 of your front six are unproven as yet...,.,. and again most new players need to bed in. My point is if you put Raz and Jesus in place of Cole and Alvarez then we’re shit hot. So I would advocate buying someone but I don’t know who. Someone like Martial actually if he had the right attitude because he’s got enough about his ability to do well in our set up and can play along the front.
The variable we need to factor in is the World Cup - we just don’t know how this will affect things plus a very crowded programme. Obviously burn out is a factor with other teams but not many play the number we do. KDB played an insane number of games once he got fit.

 

[Stiff Little Wingers]

Prices move! £25-30m is the price Notts Forest are paying for hopefuls from foreign leagues, in the hope they can stay in the league…. It’s not what clubs at the top end of said league have to pay for proven players. Also, who gives a shit what the price is? Our club couldn’t be better run, so if we pay whatever we pay, I’d be delighted if we get the player.

It’s not as simple as that though is it. By your logic how come the Dippers get top class front players like Jota and Diaz for around 70 million?
Why do we have to buy proven players? We brought players like Sane, Gundog, Torres, Jesus etc for pretty reasonable prices and none of them was a proven top class player in our league but Pep made them into top class players. so I’d like more of them especially at LB.
Besides if you get an expensive player in at LB where does Cancelo play? He wants to play all the time especially with the WC coming up.
Obviously it’s not my money and the club is well run

 

[decmancity]

Been pretty obvious from the start we have been relaxed about this deal. The lad isn't going to go elsewhere. We wanted to get cash through the doors before we bought anyone and Brighton also want to secure a replacement.

Ake deal hasn't gone through yet, so our hands are tied.
If it does, then we can move pretty swiftly. Unless of course Pep sees a CB as the biggest issue.

That being said we also have the Sterling money coming and seems unlikely we will buy another attacker so the near 100m from Chelsea could be spent on Cucurella and a CB. Then we have next years transfer budget to go after someone like Bellingham and perhaps an attacker should Mahrez, Grealish, Alvarez, Palmer and so forth not step up.

 

[Dax777]

don't we use pounds anymore in England?

Yes you do.

 

[DMA's]

Getting to be a waste of time and money. £50 million for a full back when we have Zinchenko and Cancelo and possibly Ake?
I've got no problem with Zinch as LB vying with Canceo. Who turned the Villa match? Ilkay was the hero but Zinch did the hard yards.
Plus we have Haaland!!!
If we're going to pay £25-30 mill then possibly. But no more.
To pay nearly £100 mill for Phillips and Cucurella for 2 squad players is madness.

Ok going with your logic then who is covering Walker at rb? We are a full back short and this area needs addressing

 

[Coatigan]

Been pretty obvious from the start we have been relaxed about this deal. The lad isn't going to go elsewhere. We wanted to get cash through the doors before we bought anyone and Brighton also want to secure a replacement.

Ake deal hasn't gone through yet, so our hands are tied.
If it does, then we can move pretty swiftly. Unless of course Pep sees a CB as the biggest issue.

That being said we also have the Sterling money coming and seems unlikely we will buy another attacker so the near 100m from Chelsea could be spent on Cucurella and a CB. Then we have next years transfer budget to go after someone like Bellingham and perhaps an attacker should Mahrez, Grealish, Alvarez, Palmer and so forth not step up.

What does Ake have to do with Cucurella that would tie our hands?

The interest in Cucurella was reported months ago, long before we planned on selling Ake, possibly Sterling too for that matter. There is 200m coming in before Ake is sold, about 110 has been spent, with 2 free spaces in the squad, even if Ake is replaced or kept.

I get the logic of waiting for Brighton to sign a replacement, or waiting for them to rethink their asking price, or possibly waiting to maybe extend Zinchenko's contract first, who knows. I don't really get how Ake affects it, stay or go.

 

[DMA's]

Been pretty obvious from the start we have been relaxed about this deal. The lad isn't going to go elsewhere. We wanted to get cash through the doors before we bought anyone and Brighton also want to secure a replacement.

Ake deal hasn't gone through yet, so our hands are tied.
If it does, then we can move pretty swiftly. Unless of course Pep sees a CB as the biggest issue.

That being said we also have the Sterling money coming and seems unlikely we will buy another attacker so the near 100m from Chelsea could be spent on Cucurella and a CB. Then we have next years transfer budget to go after someone like Bellingham and perhaps an attacker should Mahrez, Grealish, Alvarez, Palmer and so forth not step up.

The noises around this deal have been strange since day 1. First we where apparently waiting for Sterling now pol is saying ake deal holding it up. Once Sterling is confirmed we have 2 squad spaces spare and have brought in huge fees as you rightly highlight.

Something about this deal just doesn’t seem right.

 

[Coatigan]

The noises around this deal have been strange since day 1. First we where apparently waiting for Sterling now pol is saying ake deal holding it up. Once Sterling is confirmed we have 2 squad spaces spare and have brought in huge fees as you rightly highlight.

Something about this deal just doesn’t seem right.

We were waiting for Jesus too before Sterling. Pol sounds like he has to keep his claim going now till it comes true at some point thn claim he was right all along

 

[ChicagoBlue]

The numbers seem WAAAAAY high to me!

I would choke if City paid £45M for him!

 

[foggy1974]

Not trying to pick a fight. I think if he was a gem we would already have signed him a la Grealish. But obviously if we do sign him I hope he’s great.... although like most he will need a season to bed in.
Yes but as I said, 2 of your front six are unproven as yet...,.,. and again most new players need to bed in. My point is if you put Raz and Jesus in place of Cole and Alvarez then we’re shit hot. So I would advocate buying someone but I don’t know who. Someone like Martial actually if he had the right attitude because he’s got enough about his ability to do well in our set up and can play along the front.
The variable we need to factor in is the World Cup - we just don’t know how this will affect things plus a very crowded programme. Obviously burn out is a factor with other teams but not many play the number we do. KDB played an insane number of games once he got fit.

Grealish didnt sign until the beginning of August & had a buy out clause

 

[foggy1974]

The numbers seem WAAAAAY high to me!

I would choke if City paid £45M for him!

All about opinions
Even though its slightly less than Haaland because he had a release clause, I think it will be a great deal.

 

[St.Pauli support]

What does Ake have to do with Cucurella that would tie our hands?

The interest in Cucurella was reported months ago, long before we planned on selling Ake, possibly Sterling too for that matter. There is 200m coming in before Ake is sold, about 110 has been spent, with 2 free spaces in the squad, even if Ake is replaced or kept.

I get the logic of waiting for Brighton to sign a replacement, or waiting for them to rethink their asking price, or possibly waiting to maybe extend Zinchenko's contract first, who knows. I don't really get how Ake affects it, stay or go.

Minutes on the pitch.
Both Zin and Aké surely didn't get enough minutes last season.
Adding Cucu means trouble. Pep prefers not having too big squads for that reason. Also Cancelo would be limited to RB. More trouble with with usually fit Walker and Cancelo. This is not about money or squad places IMO. It's about minutes.

Anyway, it seems Aké is off, he must be replaced. At best with a versatile CB/LB. We'll see.

 

[RayCTID]

£45m is reasonable for Cucarella. We had signed Nathan Ake for £41m and he got relegated with Bournemouth.

 

[Cobwebcat]

45 mill big difference than kane money

How does that affect your theory that if the player wants a move he gets it?

 

[decmancity]

What does Ake have to do with Cucurella that would tie our hands?

The interest in Cucurella was reported months ago, long before we planned on selling Ake, possibly Sterling too for that matter. There is 200m coming in before Ake is sold, about 110 has been spent, with 2 free spaces in the squad, even if Ake is replaced or kept.

I get the logic of waiting for Brighton to sign a replacement, or waiting for them to rethink their asking price, or possibly waiting to maybe extend Zinchenko's contract first, who knows. I don't really get how Ake affects it, stay or go.

We could have been interested in Cucurella but if we can now balance the books by Ake leaving then it makes financial sense to do that first.

We perhaps thought Zinchenko might have left so Cucurella would have been required earlier. Honestly there is probably a lot more going on behind the scenes then we will ever know.

I could well be wrong.

 

[JewelZee]

Not trying to pick a fight. I think if he was a gem we would already have signed him a la Grealish. But obviously if we do sign him I hope he’s great.... although like most he will need a season to bed in.
Yes but as I said, 2 of your front six are unproven as yet...,.,. and again most new players need to bed in. My point is if you put Raz and Jesus in place of Cole and Alvarez then we’re shit hot. So I would advocate buying someone but I don’t know who. Someone like Martial actually if he had the right attitude because he’s got enough about his ability to do well in our set up and can play along the front.
The variable we need to factor in is the World Cup - we just don’t know how this will affect things plus a very crowded programme. Obviously burn out is a factor with other teams but not many play the number we do. KDB played an insane number of games once he got fit.

Just kicking shit around...no worries...

 

[Cobwebcat]

Brighton: Hurry up City do you want Cucurella or not?

City: Hurry up Chelsea do you want Ake or not?

Chelsea: Bothered

 

[Coatigan]

We could have been interested in Cucurella but if we can now balance the books by Ake leaving then it makes financial sense to do that first.

We perhaps thought Zinchenko might have left so Cucurella would have been required earlier. Honestly there is probably a lot more going on behind the scenes then we will ever know.

I could well be wrong.

Ok, so just your guess then, fair enough, I thought like a few others you either believed it because Pol happened to have said it, or maybe read something else about our books etc.

The zinch one make more sense to me, but I don't personally believe that either. There has been nothing to suggest Zinch would have wanted out, in either noise or his demeanour, and any early interest linking other clubs with him has disappeared pretty quickly which could maybe be saying something.

The club are well known to be patient on transfers, and when they think a player wants to move here, have been known to happily sit on it all summer if needed. Whether that is waiting for the selling club to sweat on the fee, or player to have his holiday, or selling club to find a replacement, or whatever reason really, they tend not to rush when not needed.

For me this is just one of those, maybe waiting for Brighton to sign a replacement and then let him go for a fee they already know, maybe the fee quoted is too high and are happy to look around and revisit, but any which way I myself don't think it is linked to Ake leaving. Particularly as he will need replaced. That is just my guess, could be wrong too.

 

[Coatigan]

Minutes on the pitch.
Both Zin and Aké surely didn't get enough minutes last season.
Adding Cucu means trouble. Pep prefers not having too big squads for that reason. Also Cancelo would be limited to RB. More trouble with with usually fit Walker and Cancelo. This is not about money or squad places IMO. It's about minutes.

Anyway, it seems Aké is off, he must be replaced. At best with a versatile CB/LB. We'll see.

One of the more logical guesses, I see the sense in that. Maybe. Different position that will still need a body in, and we would have previously had Mendy too By the end of the window won't make any difference what happens first. But who knows, maybe in the interim Pep would prefer avoid any distractions. I would still think there is a gap in the fee, and the rest is just us looking to find other believable reasons. Any one of which could really be true.