Marc Cucurella

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anotherbrightonfan said:
You have just turned down a £16m bid for a player that has only played 9 senior games. If he was from anywhere else other than Man City people would say your crazy. £50m bid for our player of the season seems more and more reasonable.

If you want to sell untested players at high prices based on potential why cant we sell our player of the season who potentially is your missing link for £50+.
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Yet Brighton have turned down £30m for Cucurella, thats how transfers work. We probably think that with one decent season we can get more than 3 times than £16m.
 
anotherbrightonfan said:
Its not the same. We were alright with the likes of Bissouma, Ostigard, Taylor Richards (remember him) being sold. Even players like Duffy and Clarke if they go.

Cucrella is our player of the season and City have offered a fraction of the price we value him at.

It is worth repeating, he wants to go to you, we are willing to sell him to you, that has never been in dispute. We are not going to be pushed around by you.

i have seen so many things written on this site including sometimes you act like your interested in a player as a smoke screen to signing another player.

I honestly think if you sign him it will be for a package over £50m. Thats the compromise. Cucurella is being professional at least at the moment. So there is no pressure on us. We have laid our cards on the table from the very beginning. Nothing has changed YET.
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That's the issue him being your player of the season and other transfers have no impact on our value of the player. You value him at one figure and we value him at another it is what it is. I have no doubt he will remain professional and will cause you no issues or headaches but I also believe he wants the move, it's his agent you need to worry about. I'm happy either way he is a key player for Brighton and you value him accordingly at City he could be a rotation player as I can't see cancelo or walker being happy to be a backup.
 
Burtonblue said:
Gone are the days we will be held to ransom by greedy chairmen demanding silly money.
It didn’t work out for Kane and it won’t for Cucurella.
There is no way in God’s world we are desperate yet.
Plenty of water to go under the bridge on this one but I can guarantee 50m plus won’t happen for this guy.
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Bloom although a gambler is playing a risky game
If he doesnt allow him to leave after he's made BHA aware of what he wants, Cuc doesn't kick up a stink, gets his head down & puts in a similar season are Bloom & BHA going to get much more
Where as
Cucurella COULD kick up a stink, especially his agent, get injured or get embroiled in a relegation scrap & the fans get on Potters back, seeing as they booed him last season after Leeds game & a run of several poor results.
 
Keeper! said:
Why do you think it's our right to sign every player we want ?

They have a valuation, it's up to us to pay it, and we either pay or go onto the next target, simple.

It's understanable why we have become hated by other fan bases, we are becoming dipper like.
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Why is it up to us to pay a valuation that hasn't been proved to be fact, its pure speculation.
We've put in a bid that has been rejected, but both parties are negotiating. Surely its upto Tixiki & the board to get the best deal that they can & if its not in their interests they'll walk away
 
dachoosen1 said:
That's the issue him being your player of the season and other transfers have no impact on our value of the player. You value him at one figure and we value him at another it is what it is. I have no doubt he will remain professional and will cause you no issues or headaches but I also believe he wants the move, it's his agent you need to worry about. I'm happy either way he is a key player for Brighton and you value him accordingly at City he could be a rotation player as I can't see cancelo or walker being happy to be a backup.
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I have no doubt he wants the move. I have no doubt that we will not stand in his way, but at the moment you have made 1 bid that even half the people on here think is low.
 
daztrueblue91 said:
Do I think £30 million is a lowball offer? Most definitely.
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I don't think it's a lowball offer, they paid £15m for him less than a year ago. That's a 100% return and in any walk of life that has to considered great business.

But i agree, if they want over £50m, that would be a huge gamble on our part.

The lad has had one season in the PL, his form could've been a fluke, maybe not, but he wasn't considered good enough for Barcelona.
 
anotherbrightonfan said:
I have no doubt he wants the move. I have no doubt that we will not stand in his way, but at the moment you have made 1 bid that even half the people on here think is low.
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I thought the bid for Phillips was low but the Leeds board didn't. Its what the decision makers at the clubs think. 30 mil for Cucurella in my opinion is abit low 35 mil with 5 mil add ons in my opinion would be fair. He had a good season last year but that's basically it, is he a 1 season wonder? Why isn't he a regular for Spain? How will he fair in champs league? Can he play 2 games a week for most of the season? and can he start for us when last season he wasn't as good as either of our full backs imho. There is an element of risk for us.
 
jrb said:
We had the same reaction form Arsenal fans when we bought their players. We had the same reaction from Everton fans when we bought Lescott, courtesy of Moyes sh*t stirring in the media. We had the same reaction from Spurs fans when we wanted to sign Kane. Fans of other clubs don’t like City buying their (best) players, which is understandable. If City had paid the asking price, whatever it is, instead of going in with a cheeky 1st offer, Brighton fans wouldn’t be so annoyed.

Like many other people I think £40mill-£45mill+add-ons should do it this week. Hopefully.

As no (bad) news for us is coming from either City or Brighton, it’s safe to say negotiations are still on-going. :-)
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There is a difference here. He hasn’t even been at Brighton a year yet, they bought him for £15 million. Clearly this is not a case of developing their own players and being adequately compensated. This is about cherry picking young European talent, showcasing them and selling for a profit. There is nothing wrong with that, but it is a bit rich complaining about the size of the profit when Brighton have done nothing with him.
 
I am still surprised why the deal is not completed till now.
This is not because I want it to happen but I think Pep prefers players to have a preseason with him before the start of the season. He was clearly miffed at Stones and Foden for missing the preseason. He would have preferred a match or two with Sosa/Cucu or whoever we are trying to sign.

It's not even about the money. Leaving aside the owner's money and all, arent we like 60-70 million in profit after Zinc/Sterling/Jesus/Academy lads sale and we don't shy from paying big money once Pep has an eye on the player.

Either City doesn't rate any LB more than 30 mil or We are just trying to win the net spend trophy from Liverpool ( Which I am all for it) Lets be the first team to win 7 trophies in a season!
 
anotherbrightonfan said:
Its not the same. We were alright with the likes of Bissouma, Ostigard, Taylor Richards (remember him) being sold. Even players like Duffy and Clarke if they go.

Cucrella is our player of the season and City have offered a fraction of the price we value him at.

It is worth repeating, he wants to go to you, we are willing to sell him to you, that has never been in dispute. We are not going to be pushed around by you.

i have seen so many things written on this site including sometimes you act like your interested in a player as a smoke screen to signing another player.

I honestly think if you sign him it will be for a package over £50m. Thats the compromise. Cucurella is being professional at least at the moment. So there is no pressure on us. We have laid our cards on the table from the very beginning. Nothing has changed YET.
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You are entitled to ask for what you want for him, but it sounds like you are basing it on what we have paid for fullbacks before. There is no bidding war here, it is a case of one club wanting him, one club willing to consider selling him and one player willing to accept the move. I don’t think you are in as strong a negotiation position as you think you are. If we walk away you will be left with an unhappy player, then what? Accept a similar bid in 12 months time and an adversely affected team spirit?

The only happy solution for both parties here is a halfway £40 million accepted offer. Otherwise both clubs will be in weaker positions when they next negotiate transfers. If we walk away at £30 mill you will be weaker, if we cough up £50 mill we will be weaker.
 
Starting to think that Brighton were looking for a LB because they thought City were going to pay 50m. Why not, given that Arsenal paid 50m for White! But...turns out they were (probably) wrong. As things stand, a deal is anything but done or close. If there's a deal, it will be closer to 50m than to 40m, that much is certain now.

I think no Cucu deal is more likely now. Things may change a bit with a transfer request. But Sosa/another LB + JWE is the likely way to go forward.
 
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dachoosen1 said:
I thought the bid for Phillips was low but the Leeds board didn't. Its what the decision makers at the clubs think. 30 mil for Cucurella in my opinion is abit low 35 mil with 5 mil add ons in my opinion would be fair. He had a good season last year but that's basically it, is he a 1 season wonder? Why isn't he a regular for Spain? How will he fair in champs league? Can he play 2 games a week for most of the season? and can he start for us when last season he wasn't as good as either of our full backs imho. There is an element of risk for us.
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You can say that about any player. But you still think a package of £40m is reasonable. I honestly think Cucurella deal isn't going to be about value as we don't want to sell. It therefore has to be about being Peps number 1 target. With that in mind £50m can't be out of the question. If he isn't Peps number 1 target and you only want value transfers then you will walk away.
 
alexmcity said:
Starting to think that Brighton were looking for a LB because they thought City were going to pay 50m. Why not, given that Arsenal paid 50m for White! But...turns out they were (probably) wrong. As things stand, a deal is anything but done or close. If there's a deal, it will be closer to 50m than to 40m, that much is certain now.

I think no Cucu deal is more likely now. Things may change a bit with a transfer request. But Sosa/another LB + JWE is the likely way to go forward.
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I don't get why people don't understand the part where we say we don't want to sell. Leeds wanted to sell as they over spent in last couple of season. We don't want to sell.
 
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