Mark Clattenburg

Bodicoteblue said:
jay_mcfc said:
It was offside, get over it.
I don't want to be like a dog with a bone - but given the vagueness and subjectivity involved here , the decision could surely have just as easily , justifiably been given our way and the goal allowed.
But I suppose given the title of this thread , it would be an act of unreasonable optimism to have expected anything else but the decision we got.

No, the goal was offside pure and simple. Under the old rule the lino would have flagged Nasri offside as soon as Dzeko struck the ball because Nasri was in the centre of goal about 8 yards out and clearly "interfering with play" in that interpretation.

The new rule allows the lino to wait for a few seconds to see if Nasri becomes "active" in the current phase of play, which he did so the lino flagged. The keeper parrying the shot is irrelevant in this case, Nasri is penalised for the original offside, he cannot be "played onside" in that phase of play.
 
lancs blue said:
Bodicoteblue said:
jay_mcfc said:
It was offside, get over it.
I don't want to be like a dog with a bone - but given the vagueness and subjectivity involved here , the decision could surely have just as easily , justifiably been given our way and the goal allowed.
But I suppose given the title of this thread , it would be an act of unreasonable optimism to have expected anything else but the decision we got.

No, the goal was offside pure and simple. Under the old rule the lino would have flagged Nasri offside as soon as Dzeko struck the ball because Nasri was in the centre of goal about 8 yards out and clearly "interfering with play" in that interpretation.

The new rule allows the lino to wait for a few seconds to see if Nasri becomes "active" in the current phase of play, which he did so the lino flagged. The keeper parrying the shot is irrelevant in this case, Nasri is penalised for the original offside, he cannot be "played onside" in that phase of play.

I interpret the rules that if the keeper had caught the ball, then thrown or rolled the ball for Nasri to pick up and shoot, he would NOT have been offside because a new phase of play had begun and so the parry is relevant, it is the fact the ball rebounded (from the keeper's parry) that made Nasri offside.

Pure technicalities, of course.
 
To get the thread back on topic I have just read the thread on Clattenburgh's performance in last seasons game at Anfield and find it is amazing that this guy is allowed to continue being a referee.
He is either grossly incompetent or bent, in either case he should not be refereeing.
How does he get away with it?
 
willy eckerslike said:
lancs blue said:
Bodicoteblue said:
I don't want to be like a dog with a bone - but given the vagueness and subjectivity involved here , the decision could surely have just as easily , justifiably been given our way and the goal allowed.
But I suppose given the title of this thread , it would be an act of unreasonable optimism to have expected anything else but the decision we got.

No, the goal was offside pure and simple. Under the old rule the lino would have flagged Nasri offside as soon as Dzeko struck the ball because Nasri was in the centre of goal about 8 yards out and clearly "interfering with play" in that interpretation.

The new rule allows the lino to wait for a few seconds to see if Nasri becomes "active" in the current phase of play, which he did so the lino flagged. The keeper parrying the shot is irrelevant in this case, Nasri is penalised for the original offside, he cannot be "played onside" in that phase of play.

I interpret the rules that if the keeper had caught the ball, then thrown or rolled the ball for Nasri to pick up and shoot, he would NOT have been offside because a new phase of play had begun and so the parry is relevant, it is the fact the ball rebounded (from the keeper's parry) that made Nasri offside.

Pure technicalities, of course.

Yes that's right, by "irrelevant" I was referring to previous posters who claimed the parry played Nasri onside.
 

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