Mark Clattenburg

[big gaz]

Sat on my fat one in the Cotton taking in the game after 20 mins two thing happened Dino and Lampard both got booked.

 

[Stretfordian_Blue]

A few people saying it wasn't a foul on Kompany and I can only assume these people were watching on TV- the angle doesn't show the clear push that we could see from the away end. Definite foul.

 

[remember arthur mann]

'over for the FA'

 

[Bodicoteblue]

That surely renders redundant the idea that you can be played onside by an opponent touching the ball last before you receive it?

Nasri was in an offside position as Dzeko shot, but was not interfering with play and therefore play continues. When the ball rebounds to him, he becomes offside (unless he chooses not to play the ball). So in effect "offside" is not the same as "being in an offside position".

If he was in an offside position and the opposition player "played" the ball to him, he would NOT have been offside.

Either way it is crazy, and I feel for the officials on some of these technicalities as they have just a second to make a decision.

So what is the goalie doing while coming out to block the shot? Attempting not to play the ball?

This was my thinking too.
Part and parcel of a goalkeeping is parrying shots , so in effect his parrying is surely "playing the ball" - it's not like it skimmed off a defenders head or foot , and fell kindly by accident - it is a legitimate and practised part of a goalkeeper's skills.
While it is left to the subjective view of the ref , then it gives the likes of Clattenburg plenty of opportunity to do pretty much what he likes.

 

[lust overlord]

Nasri was in an offside position as Dzeko shot, but was not interfering with play and therefore play continues. When the ball rebounds to him, he becomes offside (unless he chooses not to play the ball). So in effect "offside" is not the same as "being in an offside position".

If he was in an offside position and the opposition player "played" the ball to him, he would NOT have been offside.

Either way it is crazy, and I feel for the officials on some of these technicalities as they have just a second to make a decision.

So what is the goalie doing while coming out to block the shot? Attempting not to play the ball?

This was my thinking too.
Part and parcel of a goalkeeping is parrying shots , so in effect his parrying is surely "playing the ball" - it's not like it skimmed off a defenders head or foot , and fell kindly by accident - it is a legitimate and practised part of a goalkeeper's skills.
While it is left to the subjective view of the ref , then it gives the likes of Clattenburg plenty of opportunity to do pretty much what he likes.

I thought the linesman gave the offside call.
It was one of the few decisions he got right imo.
I was more annoyed about the blatant handball.

 

[Plays By Sense Of Smell]

Nasri was in an offside position as Dzeko shot, but was not interfering with play and therefore play continues. When the ball rebounds to him, he becomes offside (unless he chooses not to play the ball). So in effect "offside" is not the same as "being in an offside position".

If he was in an offside position and the opposition player "played" the ball to him, he would NOT have been offside.

Either way it is crazy, and I feel for the officials on some of these technicalities as they have just a second to make a decision.

So what is the goalie doing while coming out to block the shot? Attempting not to play the ball?

This was my thinking too.
Part and parcel of a goalkeeping is parrying shots , so in effect his parrying is surely "playing the ball" - it's not like it skimmed off a defenders head or foot , and fell kindly by accident - it is a legitimate and practised part of a goalkeeper's skills.
While it is left to the subjective view of the ref , then it gives the likes of Clattenburg plenty of opportunity to do pretty much what he likes.

And this is probably at the root of what tees me off so much about football.
It is run and administered by people who simply have not thought their decisions through enough. People who don't think!
It's bad enough having a couple of players in your team who don't think, let alone those who create new rules for everyone else without fully exploring and understanding their consequences!

Please for the sake of all that's good, leave the non-thinking to us - we pay to be mindlessly entertained, and while we can, we don't necessarily want to have to do the thinking for you all the time, especially when there is no point as you won't listen anyway.

Ahhh, Tuesday morning.

Rant over.

 

[Citizen of Legoland]

Nasri was in an offside position as Dzeko shot, but was not interfering with play and therefore play continues. When the ball rebounds to him, he becomes offside (unless he chooses not to play the ball). So in effect "offside" is not the same as "being in an offside position".

If he was in an offside position and the opposition player "played" the ball to him, he would NOT have been offside.

Either way it is crazy, and I feel for the officials on some of these technicalities as they have just a second to make a decision.

So what is the goalie doing while coming out to block the shot? Attempting not to play the ball?

This was my thinking too.
Part and parcel of a goalkeeping is parrying shots , so in effect his parrying is surely "playing the ball" - it's not like it skimmed off a defenders head or foot , and fell kindly by accident - it is a legitimate and practised part of a goalkeeper's skills.
While it is left to the subjective view of the ref , then it gives the likes of Clattenburg plenty of opportunity to do pretty much what he likes.

It's a valid point, and I'm no expert in the rules, but I'm guessing the officials have to decide whether the goalie has had a chance to control the ball and then make a second decision to play it. So if he caught the ball then rolled or threw it out it would be two actions (even if it looked like a single smooth action), whereas when he is making a save it is only one action and therefore classed as a deflection (or rebound). Possibly most officials err on the side of the defending team, which seems fair.

 

[jay_mcfc]

It was offside, get over it.

 

[Plays By Sense Of Smell]

It was offside, get over it.

Killjoy :p

 

[Bodicoteblue]

It was offside, get over it.

I don't want to be like a dog with a bone - but given the vagueness and subjectivity involved here , the decision could surely have just as easily , justifiably been given our way and the goal allowed.
But I suppose given the title of this thread , it would be an act of unreasonable optimism to have expected anything else but the decision we got.