Mark Hughes' exit from Manchester City

Joycee Banercheck said:
moomba said:
We got only one less point in Svens last 9 matches as we've got in our last 9.
Could you tell us what the difference is between teh second half of sven's season to teh first half of this one, rather than just 9 games? I don't want it to prove anything coz this whole Hughes In/Out think is boring the tits off me, I just want to know, ta.
Never mind, I've found it.
 
My thoughts from another thread, for what its worth.

I dont hate or despise Hughes as a manager, and the whole argument of stability is something I can understand as a City fan. Hes proved his worth in the market throughout his managerial career as well as his performances with Blackburn and Wales. Is he a world class manager in my opinion though, no. By the same token, for how much we all loved Dunney (and im glad to see hes doing well on a personal note) he also isnt a world class defender, and if you're aspiring to be the best team in the league, then you need the best players, hence why most people accepted that it was time for him (and us) to move on.

Picture Robinho, Tevez and Adebayor walking into training, do you really think these players are going to be inspired by a manager like Hughes, who has the charisma and personality of a tree. He was a great player yes, and that counts for something, but these players have been man-managed by some of the best managers in the world, of which Hughes isnt.

You may well say that you have to start somewhere as a manager and Fergiescum is the prime example, but ADUG havent been playing about with the likes of Dunnie, this "project" has been in overdrive from day 1, and to be the best, you need the best.

Im not a Hughes hater, im a realist and besides the fact that some people are so obsessed with the rags that you think the only reason we dont want him as a manager is because he was one, that is not at all anything to do with my views, and most probably others. Football is brutal these days, and if we can fast-track when it comes to playing staff, why is it ridiculous to expect the same with regards to a manger.
 
Mattyc55 said:
My thoughts from another thread, for what its worth.

I dont hate or despise Hughes as a manager, and the whole argument of stability is something I can understand as a City fan. Hes proved his worth in the market throughout his managerial career as well as his performances with Blackburn and Wales. Is he a world class manager in my opinion though, no. By the same token, for how much we all loved Dunney (and im glad to see hes doing well on a personal note) he also isnt a world class defender, and if you're aspiring to be the best team in the league, then you need the best players, hence why most people accepted that it was time for him (and us) to move on.

Picture Robinho, Tevez and Adebayor walking into training, do you really think these players are going to be inspired by a manager like Hughes, who has the charisma and personality of a tree. He was a great player yes, and that counts for something, but these players have been man-managed by some of the best managers in the world, of which Hughes isnt.

You may well say that you have to start somewhere as a manager and Fergiescum is the prime example, but ADUG havent been playing about with the likes of Dunnie, this "project" has been in overdrive from day 1, and to be the best, you need the best.

Im not a Hughes hater, im a realist and besides the fact that some people are so obsessed with the rags that you think the only reason we dont want him as a manager is because he was one, that is not at all anything to do with my views, and most probably others. Football is brutal these days, and if we can fast-track when it comes to playing staff, why is it ridiculous to expect the same with regards to a manger.

Sums up what most of us think mate, good post.
 
Didsbury Dave said:
Oh here we go...I was waiting for someone to trot out the Ferguson line.

Neither Ferguson or Moyes were given investment beyond the wildest dreams of the rest of football.

That's the difference. It's a huge difference.

PB, you're deluded if you think he'll get another season if this one is a failure. He wasn't even appointed by our owners.

You appear to be suggesting that he'll get another season regardless of what happens in this one. Do you seriously believe that?
Ferguson spent plenty by the standards of the time. But he bought some players that didn't buy into what he was trying to do or couldn't and even after three seasons he realised that he wasn't getting the team to where he wanted it. The speed at which he's spent the money is the issue here. some people think that it should bring success quickly whereas other still think it takes time. Let's take a hypothetical situation - if Hughes had spent £70m a year over three years, instead of £200m over one year, would our expectations be different? I think they would (although some would never have any faith in Hughes regardless) in that we'd expect gradual improvement, in much the same way Villa have done over the last three seasons. But in some ways spending all that money so quickly has actually hindered rather than helped us. I still wouldn't expect us to achieve our full potential until next season.

I don't know what plans the owners have, unlike many on here who seem to know that they said 6th but really meant 4th or that they have their finger on the trigger and Mourinho lined up.

Certainly if we don't get 6th then he will probably be in severe danger of the chop but I'd still rather they had someone top-class lined up rather than sacking him and then trying to find someone.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
Certainly if we don't get 6th then he will probably be in severe danger of the chop but I'd still rather they had someone top-class lined up rather than sacking him and then trying to find someone.

Well we nearly agree, PB.

I think if he doesn't get 4th he'll be for the chop.

But I don't have any doubts we'll have a top class manager lined up. Ours is one of the best jobs in world football now.
 

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