Match Thread | Man City vs Real Madrid (24/07/15 @ 11am)

[jared]

This is actually so pointless considering we only started with 2 youth players andboth happened to be CB's and one being 16 and they were alongside Sagna and Kolarov who are hardly Mr dependable + Fernando in front. The most highly praised youngster of this tour didn't even play ( Garcia ) and the other young lads who came on, only got around 20 mins so no need to shit on anyone's parade so soon.

Shit on anyone's parade? Have you freaking read this thread at all or some of your posts? And all I'm saying is no need to get too hyped up on our youngsters until they get decent playing time in real matches. FFS I can quite safely say the players you slagged in this thread will play more minutes in the season than the unproven youngsters. So maybe don't rain on their parade just yet lol

 

[Neville Kneville]

Shit on anyone's parade? Have you freaking read this thread at all or some of your posts? And all I'm saying is no need to get too hyped up on our youngsters until they get decent playing time in real matches. FFS I can quite safely say the players you slagged in this thread will play more minutes in the season than the unproven youngsters. So maybe don't rain on their parade just yet lol

Why not hype up our youngsters? They are fucking good, we are City fans, can't we be happy about it & shout it out ?

 

[jared]

Why not hype up our youngsters? They are fucking good, we are City fans, can't we be happy about it & shout it out ?

Nevermind. I guess it's okay to declare unproven youngsters as fucking good already while slagging off our more senior players Nevermind that they contributed more to our two recent titles than the youngsters ever did. It's the level headed way to do.

 

[Neville Kneville]

Nevermind. I guess it's okay to declare unproven youngsters as fucking good already while slagging off our more senior players Nevermind that they contributed more to our two recent titles than the youngsters ever did. It's the level headed way to do.

They are KIDS. And they are high quality KIDS. Not experienced players. It is a different matter entirely.

What the fuck is wrong with you ?

 

[Yates]

Shit on anyone's parade? Have you freaking read this thread at all or some of your posts? And all I'm saying is no need to get too hyped up on our youngsters until they get decent playing time in real matches. FFS I can quite safely say the players you slagged in this thread will play more minutes in the season than the unproven youngsters. So maybe don't rain on their parade just yet lol

How many people have actually said these young lads would start? I'm pretty sure Iheanacho and Denayer are the only realistic first team players and I doubt Nacho will even see much playing time. You're over-reacting, simple as. Kolarov and Fernando ( who actually had an ok game ) are 2 experienced players who are simply not good enough, how can you shit on a parade that isn't there? The young lads we've got have a buzz around them because of their potential not because they're ready made stars, looking to tear Real Madrid apart.

 

[jared]

They are KIDS. And they are high quality KIDS. Not experienced players. It is a different matter entirely.

What the fuck is wrong with you ?

Wow. Not sure if you got anger issues if you are getting angry something so innocuous . All right man calm down if you are still not getting my point. That's fine. Think whatever you want. I don't want to take this further. It's only meaningless friendlies anyway. Not worth getting anyone mad. Peace man.

 

[ninjamonkey]

This is actually so pointless considering we only started with 2 youth players andboth happened to be CB's and one being 16 and they were alongside Sagna and Kolarov who are hardly Mr dependable + Fernando in front. The most highly praised youngster of this tour didn't even play ( Garcia ) and the other young lads who came on, only got around 20 mins so no need to shit on anyone's parade so soon.

Fernando and Sagna were two of our best performers today. Sagna was very solid, covered the 2 centre backs very well and nothing came from down his side. He had Navas infront of him too who is a much bigger help than Nasri defensively. Fernando put in some fantastic tackles throughout the game despite being over run due to yaya's lack of defensive cover. he looked like he did in pre-season last year.

Think Jared is getting some undeserved stick here. He didn't slag any of the kids off, he just didn't heap tonnes of false praise on them. We all know they are some of the best kids in the world and there's a fantastic chance a good deal of them could progress into our first team, and it's very exciting but we do have a tendency on here to over hype every good thing they do.They both had their good and bad moments throughout the game today, there was plenty to be pleased about, but also, there's plenty of improvement needed and i'm sure it will come over time. In the first half as a whole they were given the run around by 4 world class players. There's no shame in that, that forward line of theirs is more than capable of destroying any defence in the world, it's no criticism to say they struggled. They will both benefit greatly from that experience because their weak points were highlighted and they can go away and work on them and become better.

 

[Neville Kneville]

Wow. Not sure if you got anger issues if you are getting angry something so innocuous . All right man calm down if you are still not getting my point. That's fine. Think whatever you want. I don't want to take this further. It's only meaningless friendlies anyway. Not worth getting anyone mad. Peace man.

I'm not remotely angry, I'm actually having a perfectly normal conversation on another forum right now. I'm just spelling the point out to you, because you seem to be missing it completely. We are fully entitled to be happy about having top quality prospects coming through & shout about it, irrespective of their first team experience so far.

 

[jared]

How many people have actually said these young lads would start? I'm pretty sure Iheanacho and Denayer are the only realistic first team players and I doubt Nacho will even see much playing time. You're over-reacting, simple as. Kolarov and Fernando ( who actually had an ok game ) are 2 experienced players who are simply not good enough, how can you shit on a parade that isn't there? The young lads we've got have a buzz around them because of their potential not because they're ready made stars, looking to tear Real Madrid apart.

Yeah If you don't get the excessive hyping up of our youngsters and over the top criticism of senior players from meaningless friendlies that fine. We agree to disagree. This is the last I'm commenting anyway about this. Don't want to get people to riled up and start accusing me of things.

 

[Neville Kneville]

Fernando and Sagna were two of our best performers today. Sagna was very solid, covered the 2 centre backs very well and nothing came from down his side. He had Navas infront of him too who is a much bigger help than Nasri defensively. Fernando put in some fantastic tackles throughout the game despite being over run due to yaya's lack of defensive cover. he looked like he did in pre-season last year.

Think Jared is getting some undeserved stick here. He didn't slag any of the kids off, he just didn't heap tonnes of false praise on them. We all know they are some of the best kids in the world and there's a fantastic chance a good deal of them could progress into our first team, and it's very exciting but we do have a tendency on here to over hype every good thing they do.They both had their good and bad moments throughout the game today, there was plenty to be pleased about, but also, there's plenty of improvement needed and i'm sure it will come over time. In the first half as a whole they were given the run around by 4 world class players. There's no shame in that, that forward line of theirs is more than capable of destroying any defence in the world, it's no criticism to say they struggled. They will both benefit greatly from that experience because their weak points were highlighted and they can go away and work on them and become better.

He said we shouldn't 'embarrass ourselves' starting threads about them. That is what I took exception to.

 

[mosssideblue]

I am not going to criticise any of the youngsters at all, but its some of the senior members that have disappointed. If we do not get the acquisitions we need this summer, we can kiss goodbye to the premier league title. Fernando as your back up midfielder is just not good enough, absolutely terrible. Would much rather have spent 13m on Cabaye than keep this waste of space. I literally cannot see what the man offers, Octopus... pfft, a tortoise more like. How people can say that we haven't got room for De Bruyne is beyond me... sick of watching Navas each game fail to get past the first man with a cross and struggle to beat a man down the line. We need players with quality, not players that just make up the numbers. Get rid of Dzeko too, his time has come and he looked like he couldn't trap a bag of cement.

Think we still need possibly another 2 centre mid acquisitions (Pogba is key and Aranguiz on the cheap will do to replace Fernando to give us MUCH more energy and nous), a left back (one that can defend at least) and another attacking midfield player (De Bruyne), the strength in depth is not good enough. Time to roll out the chequebook and bring in much needed players to help bolster the squad and get rid of the deadwood.

We must have watched different games as I thought Ferando had a reasonably good game. He will prove his worth.

 

[jared]

Fernando and Sagna were two of our best performers today. Sagna was very solid, covered the 2 centre backs very well and nothing came from down his side. He had Navas infront of him too who is a much bigger help than Nasri defensively. Fernando put in some fantastic tackles throughout the game despite being over run due to yaya's lack of defensive cover. he looked like he did in pre-season last year.

Think Jared is getting some undeserved stick here. He didn't slag any of the kids off, he just didn't heap tonnes of false praise on them. We all know they are some of the best kids in the world and there's a fantastic chance a good deal of them could progress into our first team, and it's very exciting but we do have a tendency on here to over hype every good thing they do.They both had their good and bad moments throughout the game today, there was plenty to be pleased about, but also, there's plenty of improvement needed and i'm sure it will come over time. In the first half as a whole they were given the run around by 4 world class players. There's no shame in that, that forward line of theirs is more than capable of destroying any defence in the world, it's no criticism to say they struggled. They will both benefit greatly from that experience because their weak points were highlighted and they can go away and work on them and become better.

Thanks mate. Was gonna head off but wanted to comment on your post before I do so. All I'm thinking of is some level headedness. Giddiness about youngsters can be a double edged sword. The more you hyped them up the more you can be setting them up for a fall if things don't work out. There are so many precautionary tales out there. In the meantime while we let them prove themselves over the years, maybe give some support to our more maligned senior players. As they will play some major minutes in comparison. Get behind the team as city fans. Less hype, less hate and more leveled headed stuff. I mean it's only the pre season.

 

[mosssideblue]

Fernando and Sagna were two of our best performers today. Sagna was very solid, covered the 2 centre backs very well and nothing came from down his side. He had Navas infront of him too who is a much bigger help than Nasri defensively. Fernando put in some fantastic tackles throughout the game despite being over run due to yaya's lack of defensive cover. he looked like he did in pre-season last year.

Think Jared is getting some undeserved stick here. He didn't slag any of the kids off, he just didn't heap tonnes of false praise on them. We all know they are some of the best kids in the world and there's a fantastic chance a good deal of them could progress into our first team, and it's very exciting but we do have a tendency on here to over hype every good thing they do.They both had their good and bad moments throughout the game today, there was plenty to be pleased about, but also, there's plenty of improvement needed and i'm sure it will come over time. In the first half as a whole they were given the run around by 4 world class players. There's no shame in that, that forward line of theirs is more than capable of destroying any defence in the world, it's no criticism to say they struggled. They will both benefit greatly from that experience because their weak points were highlighted and they can go away and work on them and become better.

Great post, and certainly agree about Sagna and Fernando.

 

[bondsman]

He's up there in the top 10 so hardly 'lol' worthy.

He isn't in the top 5 which is imo the world class bracket. I rate Neuer,Courtois,De Gea(to my pity), Bravo and Cech higher

Hart is better than courtois, Cech and bravo easily

 

[Phil1]

Hart is better than courtois, Cech and bravo easily

There's not a lot in it when it comes to Hart, Courtois and Cech. I think they're all a level higher than Bravo. Push came to shove I'd personally put Courtois above him out of the ones mentioned.
That's just a personal preference though, I'm sure plenty wouldn't.