Matija Nastasic

JoeMercer'sWay said:
one of his lesser games today but still a star prospect, figured the recent hype would inevitably lead to a poorer performance.

A poor(er) performance was coming hype or not, that's just being human. What matter is how he responds to it (and us to be fair), and I'd say given his consistency since he was introduced he's pretty good at bouncing back and just getting on with it. Just desperately hope some **** doesn't lynch him and ruin his career before it's started, because he could really be huge for us.
 
Just got back.

I thought Matty Nasty had a very good game today.

I noticed that hardly anything or anybody got past him today.

If he continues to progress as he has done for another season and he and Vinnie will be as good a CB pairing as there is in the world, IMHO.
 
Thought he was brilliant again today. He was even talking to other players and telling them where to position themselves (Clichy). Can't believe he's 19-20 as he just looks so assured, but not in David Luiz 'aren't I great' kind of way. Knows his job and does it superbly.
 
Tourist since 1971 said:
Thought he was brilliant again today. He was even talking to other players and telling them where to position themselves (Clichy). Can't believe he's 19-20 as he just looks so assured, but not in David Luiz 'aren't I great' kind of way. Knows his job and does it superbly.


This.. also doesn't seem to need to resort to fouling people like Luiz... much more level headed and , for a lad this young, he can only grow in knowledge and skills... this is one to hang onto.
 
Tourist since 1971 said:
Thought he was brilliant again today. He was even talking to other players and telling them where to position themselves (Clichy). Can't believe he's 19-20 as he just looks so assured, but not in David Luiz 'aren't I great' kind of way. Knows his job and does it superbly.

I love that about him such a cool defender! I hope he win ypoty award but you know they'll choose someone else > <
 
He was awesome yesterday. My MOTM overall. Two small mistakes yesterday - both of which were after mistakes by other City players but dealing with that will only come after years of experience.
 
Neville Kneville said:
Preston Blue1970 said:
stavros said:
god there are some outright jerks on here.

people who are saying 'he doesn't make last ditch/crucial interceptions' are wankers and should be banned from watching football.

he doesn't need to make last ditch tackles/interceptions, as his positioning and reading of the game is so good.

you hardly even notice the kid is playing , and that is the best compliment for a centre half. totlly at ease 99.9% of the time.

absolute class act
Well said and completely agree...

Utter & complete nonsense. There has never been a defender in the history of the game who is so perfect he doesn't have to make desperate challenges at times & anyone who suggests that is possible is full of shit. We are talking real football here not fucking computer games.

Everyone has to do it & those who don't aren't good enough. If Nastasic doesn't become that player, the same people who are kissing his arse now, will be hanging him a year or two down the line.

Arsenal are an example of a club with defenders who look cool. Most of them have been rated at times by people on here.

When they won the league, their centre backs were warriors. Since they changed that they have won fuck all. You need to fight to win the Premier League.
You sure you're not getting Sunday League and the Premier League mixed up? Can't remember much last ditch lunging and fighting from the likes of Baresi, Maldini, Cannavaro, and Nesta, and they're the 4 best defenders of the last 25 years. In the real world at the top level, not on computer games or Hough End.
 
adrianr said:
JoeMercer'sWay said:
one of his lesser games today but still a star prospect, figured the recent hype would inevitably lead to a poorer performance.

A poor(er) performance was coming hype or not, that's just being human. What matter is how he responds to it (and us to be fair), and I'd say given his consistency since he was introduced he's pretty good at bouncing back and just getting on with it. Just desperately hope some **** doesn't lynch him and ruin his career before it's started, because he could really be huge for us.
I'm astounded by these two comments, I thought he was absolutely brilliant yesterday. Especially in the first half, his positioning and composure were superb. Out of the 5 lads I went to the game with, 3 thought he was MOTM.
 
Shaelumstash said:
adrianr said:
JoeMercer'sWay said:
one of his lesser games today but still a star prospect, figured the recent hype would inevitably lead to a poorer performance.

A poor(er) performance was coming hype or not, that's just being human. What matter is how he responds to it (and us to be fair), and I'd say given his consistency since he was introduced he's pretty good at bouncing back and just getting on with it. Just desperately hope some **** doesn't lynch him and ruin his career before it's started, because he could really be huge for us.
I'm astounded by these two comments, I thought he was absolutely brilliant yesterday. Especially in the first half, his positioning and composure were superb. Out of the 5 lads I went to the game with, 3 thought he was MOTM.

Read what I wrote again. I didn't say he had a poor performance yesterday, I'm saying that regardless of hype or outside influence, a poor performance every so often is just being human.
 
Shaelumstash said:
Neville Kneville said:
Preston Blue1970 said:
Well said and completely agree...

Utter & complete nonsense. There has never been a defender in the history of the game who is so perfect he doesn't have to make desperate challenges at times & anyone who suggests that is possible is full of shit. We are talking real football here not fucking computer games.

Everyone has to do it & those who don't aren't good enough. If Nastasic doesn't become that player, the same people who are kissing his arse now, will be hanging him a year or two down the line.

Arsenal are an example of a club with defenders who look cool. Most of them have been rated at times by people on here.

When they won the league, their centre backs were warriors. Since they changed that they have won fuck all. You need to fight to win the Premier League.
You sure you're not getting Sunday League and the Premier League mixed up? Can't remember much last ditch lunging and fighting from the likes of Baresi, Maldini, Cannavaro, and Nesta, and they're the 4 best defenders of the last 25 years. In the real world at the top level, not on computer games or Hough End.


Game set and match
 
Shaelumstash said:
adrianr said:
JoeMercer'sWay said:
one of his lesser games today but still a star prospect, figured the recent hype would inevitably lead to a poorer performance.

A poor(er) performance was coming hype or not, that's just being human. What matter is how he responds to it (and us to be fair), and I'd say given his consistency since he was introduced he's pretty good at bouncing back and just getting on with it. Just desperately hope some **** doesn't lynch him and ruin his career before it's started, because he could really be huge for us.
I'm astounded by these two comments, I thought he was absolutely brilliant yesterday. Especially in the first half, his positioning and composure were superb. Out of the 5 lads I went to the game with, 3 thought he was MOTM.

I thought he did some of the things I have been asking for, with some real grafting defending, & was having a great game except for one ghastly mistake when he let Ba run behind him, but as the game went on he satrted to lose it more & more by the end had pretty much caved in.

Only to be expected from a promising young kid learning his trade, which is what he realistically is at this time, as opposed to the reincarnation of Bobby Moore some are claiming.

Lescott was like his Dad when he came on, so much stronger in the air, & just better at stonewall defending. Terrible mistake if we let him go at this time. Too early to be relying on a young kid.
 
Neville Kneville said:
Shaelumstash said:
adrianr said:
A poor(er) performance was coming hype or not, that's just being human. What matter is how he responds to it (and us to be fair), and I'd say given his consistency since he was introduced he's pretty good at bouncing back and just getting on with it. Just desperately hope some **** doesn't lynch him and ruin his career before it's started, because he could really be huge for us.
I'm astounded by these two comments, I thought he was absolutely brilliant yesterday. Especially in the first half, his positioning and composure were superb. Out of the 5 lads I went to the game with, 3 thought he was MOTM.

I thought he did some of the things I have been asking for, with some real grafting defending, & was having a great game except for one ghastly mistake when he let Ba run behind him, but as the game went on he satrted to lose it more & more by the end had pretty much caved in.

Only to be expected from a promising young kid learning his trade, which is what he realistically is at this time, as opposed to the reincarnation of Bobby Moore some are claiming.

Lescott was like his Dad when he came on, so much stronger in the air, & just better at stonewall defending. Terrible mistake if we let him go at this time. Too early to be relying on a young kid.

We needed Lescott's physical presence as Chelseas were hoofing balls into the box and our midlfield had ran out of legs. I'm hoping that is somewhere the kids develops.

If he continues to show the same level of skill and application. we have a super player
 
dasblues said:
Shaelumstash said:
Neville Kneville said:
Utter & complete nonsense. There has never been a defender in the history of the game who is so perfect he doesn't have to make desperate challenges at times & anyone who suggests that is possible is full of shit. We are talking real football here not fucking computer games.

Everyone has to do it & those who don't aren't good enough. If Nastasic doesn't become that player, the same people who are kissing his arse now, will be hanging him a year or two down the line.

Arsenal are an example of a club with defenders who look cool. Most of them have been rated at times by people on here.

When they won the league, their centre backs were warriors. Since they changed that they have won fuck all. You need to fight to win the Premier League.
You sure you're not getting Sunday League and the Premier League mixed up? Can't remember much last ditch lunging and fighting from the likes of Baresi, Maldini, Cannavaro, and Nesta, and they're the 4 best defenders of the last 25 years. In the real world at the top level, not on computer games or Hough End.



Game set and match

Was I mistaken or did I see Nastasic 'lunge' at the ball & fail to connect properly having to rely on the keeper to bail him out ?

That's what happens in the real world & indeed has happened to all of the players you list especially Nesta who was absolutely brilliant at last ditch defending.

The idea that top defenders can get by just swanning around without having to get stuck in, is fucking ridiculous.
 
Shaelumstash said:
adrianr said:
JoeMercer'sWay said:
one of his lesser games today but still a star prospect, figured the recent hype would inevitably lead to a poorer performance.

A poor(er) performance was coming hype or not, that's just being human. What matter is how he responds to it (and us to be fair), and I'd say given his consistency since he was introduced he's pretty good at bouncing back and just getting on with it. Just desperately hope some **** doesn't lynch him and ruin his career before it's started, because he could really be huge for us.
I'm astounded by these two comments, I thought he was absolutely brilliant yesterday. Especially in the first half, his positioning and composure were superb. Out of the 5 lads I went to the game with, 3 thought he was MOTM.

I'd agree with them also - was brilliant watching him from behind the goal in the first half, the way he reads the game is very very special, whats more exciting is Kompany being less relied upon, you don't see many centre backs bombing forward at 1 up in the first half of games, this to me is a vinny having total trust in the kid!!!<br /><br />-- Mon Apr 15, 2013 1:23 pm --<br /><br />
Neville Kneville said:
Shaelumstash said:
adrianr said:
A poor(er) performance was coming hype or not, that's just being human. What matter is how he responds to it (and us to be fair), and I'd say given his consistency since he was introduced he's pretty good at bouncing back and just getting on with it. Just desperately hope some **** doesn't lynch him and ruin his career before it's started, because he could really be huge for us.
I'm astounded by these two comments, I thought he was absolutely brilliant yesterday. Especially in the first half, his positioning and composure were superb. Out of the 5 lads I went to the game with, 3 thought he was MOTM.

I thought he did some of the things I have been asking for, with some real grafting defending, & was having a great game except for one ghastly mistake when he let Ba run behind him, but as the game went on he satrted to lose it more & more by the end had pretty much caved in.

Only to be expected from a promising young kid learning his trade, which is what he realistically is at this time, as opposed to the reincarnation of Bobby Moore some are claiming.

Lescott was like his Dad when he came on, so much stronger in the air, & just better at stonewall defending. Terrible mistake if we let him go at this time. Too early to be relying on a young kid.

Hilarity comes in many forms

Every player in light blue was dead on there feet from 65/70 mins on yet you analyse this kid, because you disagree with peoples observations, as caving in - priceless and somewhat delusional!!!!
 
some on here really do have a problem, this kid is pure class, and hes going to get better with experience. get a life
 
Zin 'messiah' Zimmer said:
Shaelumstash said:
adrianr said:
A poor(er) performance was coming hype or not, that's just being human. What matter is how he responds to it (and us to be fair), and I'd say given his consistency since he was introduced he's pretty good at bouncing back and just getting on with it. Just desperately hope some **** doesn't lynch him and ruin his career before it's started, because he could really be huge for us.
I'm astounded by these two comments, I thought he was absolutely brilliant yesterday. Especially in the first half, his positioning and composure were superb. Out of the 5 lads I went to the game with, 3 thought he was MOTM.

I'd agree with them also - was brilliant watching him from behind the goal in the first half, the way he reads the game is very very special, whats more exciting is Kompany being less relied upon, you don't see many centre backs bombing forward at 1 up in the first half of games, this to me is a vinny having total trust in the kid!!!

-- Mon Apr 15, 2013 1:23 pm --

Neville Kneville said:
Shaelumstash said:
I'm astounded by these two comments, I thought he was absolutely brilliant yesterday. Especially in the first half, his positioning and composure were superb. Out of the 5 lads I went to the game with, 3 thought he was MOTM.

I thought he did some of the things I have been asking for, with some real grafting defending, & was having a great game except for one ghastly mistake when he let Ba run behind him, but as the game went on he satrted to lose it more & more by the end had pretty much caved in.

Only to be expected from a promising young kid learning his trade, which is what he realistically is at this time, as opposed to the reincarnation of Bobby Moore some are claiming.

Lescott was like his Dad when he came on, so much stronger in the air, & just better at stonewall defending. Terrible mistake if we let him go at this time. Too early to be relying on a young kid.

Hilarity comes in many forms

Every player in light blue was dead on there feet from 65/70 mins on yet you analyse this kid, because you disagree with peoples observations, as caving in - priceless and somewhat delusional!!!!

No, I base it on the fact that he sometimes struggles when he has a player on him & isn't as strong as Lescott in those situations. When Chelsea went to 2 up front, he wasn't very good & suddenly Vinny looked less confident.

In the first half, I agree with your assessment apart from when he let Ba run off him, which he did again 2nd half.
 
Blimey guys. Can't we have a win win!

Nasty is quality beyond his tender years, but he was playing Chelski in a cup semi final when they were throwing in the kitchen sink.

Joleon was immense when he came on and won everything they threw in.
 

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