Matthijs de Ligt

Plain Speaking said:
It might be Liverpool if not United? He's said he wants them to win the CL final. They stumped up the big money for VVD.
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Pretty sure wanting Liverpool to win has more to do with his central defensive partner for Oranje than it does wanting to play for them - if not for Spurs having knocked them out

Nevertheless, there are a lot of parallels to the De Jong signing
 
burnley blue mcfc said:
I get what your saying but he’s 19 if he’s as good as what people are saying he’s 15yrs at top level, he’ll earn millions upon millions, which at this stage of his career should be the last of his concerns
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Not really. If he is as good as advertised, he can earn ridiculous money now helping United get back to relevance, and then move to a big club for even more money in 6 years when he'd be in his absolute prime.

The fact that he is 19 now means he can absolutely prioritize money knowing he has 12 years to play with. I can't fault his reasoning.
 
oldius said:
I can't get used to the phrase 'allowing a rival to strengthen'. We have a budget, the club doesn't agree, the agent presses for more and we stand firm. That's not allowing anything, it's not being taken for a mug and buying players that want to play for us. No matter how good they are, look at PSG and the issues between Neymar and Mbappe for evidence that the biggest players don't necessarily make the best teams.
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What are the issues between Mbappé and Neymar ?

Show me the evidences.
 
Dax777 said:
Not really. If he is as good as advertised, he can earn ridiculous money now helping United get back to relevance, and then move to a big club for even more money in 6 years when he'd be in his absolute prime.

The fact that he is 19 now means he can absolutely prioritize money knowing he has 12 years to play with. I can't fault his reasoning.
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Agree. This career trajectory should be referred to as 'Mbappe way' :) It's quite reasonable to go after big buck at this stage, then move to a proper club on a good terms.

Saying that, I'm confident that he's using the Rags to squeeze more from Barcelona.
 
Parisian said:
What are the issues between Mbappé and Neymar ?

Show me the evidences.
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Mbappe said: 'This is a very important moment for me, I am arriving at maybe the first or second turning point in my career.
'I have learned so much here, and I feel it's maybe the time to have more responsibility.
'Maybe at PSG, that would give me great pleasure, or maybe elsewhere for a new project.'
According to Sport, Neymar's criticism of the 'young people' in the PSG squad upset the 20-year-old Mbappe, who felt it referred to him. Mbappe had just been sent off in the French Cup final defeat on penalties by Rennes.

I was not meaning to be disrespectful of PSG, just that buying superstars does not always make a team that delivers at the highest levels of the game.
 
BlueRebel7 said:
I'll never post on this forum again if De Ligt signs for United...that's how confident I am that it is bs. The boy has some ambition, he's not brain dead to join the scum
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They'll have a seriously hard time attracting world class talent to that club whilst they're in the Europa League and Ole's at the wheel.
 
oldius said:
Mbappe said: 'This is a very important moment for me, I am arriving at maybe the first or second turning point in my career.
'I have learned so much here, and I feel it's maybe the time to have more responsibility.
'Maybe at PSG, that would give me great pleasure, or maybe elsewhere for a new project.'
According to Sport, Neymar's criticism of the 'young people' in the PSG squad upset the 20-year-old Mbappe, who felt it referred to him. Mbappe had just been sent off in the French Cup final defeat on penalties by Rennes.

I was not meaning to be disrespectful of PSG, just that buying superstars does not always make a team that delivers at the highest levels of the game.
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You have not been disrespectful.
I'm just asking where are the evidence you are claiming about that particular topic.

And those evidences seem to be the opinion of Sport about his declaration. Well, that seem rather far fetched to call that "evidence".
As you can see with a quick research, they are quite imaginative when PSG is the object of their articles :https://www.sport-english.com/en/ne...test-strategy-to-try-and-damage-barca-7366239
Other journalists in France, closer to the case, have said that he wants the number 9 spot (he talked about the fact he discovered a new role), more responsabilities meaning more money, wanting to take second position in penalty taking, and wanting a more competitive team while respecting Neymar importance for the club.

No one can conclude anything about Mbappé declaration, except for the player himself, but i think he wants to put pressure on PSG like Cristiano Ronaldo used to do. He wants more money, more attention, a competitive team and wouldn't say no to Real Madrid if PSG was opening the door.

But, if there are two players that like to play together and have an understanding on the field, it is clearly Mbappé and Neymar. Cavani is the one being boycotted by the two others because he is technically limited.
 
David 'El Mago' Silva said:
They'll have a seriously hard time attracting world class talent to that club whilst they're in the Europa League and Ole's at the wheel.
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Yaya and Dave came with us being in the Europa League as well although Mancini was much better than Ole I give you that. Riola can be quite convincing to his clients. He convinced Pogba to go to the rags with no CL as well. He'll tell De Ligt to go to the rags for a couple of years then he'll try to usher a move to his dream team.
 
Man, de Ligt signing for United would be so poor. Both on us for not competing in the end and because we would have to watch him he go play years of terrible football.
 
cjn said:
Man, de Ligt signing for United would be so poor. Both on us for not competing in the end and because we would have to watch him he go play years of terrible football.
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Not at all bad from us,we have a business model and stick to it,if he is stupid enough to go there he deserves to play shite football,what does a 19yr old hot property want? money or to play for a great club like us or barca
 
The player would be welcome but we don't need his agent
The club will not tolerate agents like him again, I think they learned their lesson with Yaya
 
karen7 said:
Not at all bad from us,we have a business model and stick to it,if he is stupid enough to go there he deserves to play shite football,what does a 19yr old hot property want? money or to play for a great club like us or barca
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Difference of opinion obviously, but I wish we were less rigid with the “business model”. It’s not like we get credit for it either way. United certainly won’t have entered this as the club that anyone thought would get the player, but they will (if this happens) because they competed for him and won the race with a better or more persuasive offer. It’s frustrating that we never do that.
 
cjn said:
Difference of opinion obviously, but I wish we were less rigid with the “business model”. It’s not like we get credit for it either way. United certainly won’t have entered this as the club that anyone thought would get the player, but they will (if this happens) because they competed for him and won the race with a better or more persuasive offer. It’s frustrating that we never do that.
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It's not about getting credit,amongst other things it's squad harmony when it comes to wages,the players are given astructure and can see a path to getting to top wages like kev if they work hard,we also go for players who are not twats,we go for players who want to be with us for who we are and not for the highest salary,i'm not sure why you support us if you don't agree with how we are run
 
Larry Stranger said:
Yaya and Dave came with us being in the Europa League as well although Mancini was much better than Ole I give you that. Riola can be quite convincing to his clients. He convinced Pogba to go to the rags with no CL as well. He'll tell De Ligt to go to the rags for a couple of years then he'll try to usher a move to his dream team.
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Good points. As you say though, I think Mancini was a big factor. Same with Mourinho and Pogba, plus he had a previous connection with the club. As good as he is at smiling, Solskjaer has no pull whatsoever.
 
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