MCFC buy J league club Yokohama Marinos

sam-caddick said:
I am just really excited at the possibility of developing top class Japanese talent as I reckon they will become the next Belgium.

India could become a powerhouse if they wanted to though, it's the numbers game with that country so surely they could eventually develop XI top class players with the correct coaching seeing as the country has a population of over a billion.

This is correct as the Japanese national team are going through their own "golden generation" on a smaller scale at the moment. Lot of top Japanese players currently make Bundesliga their home and Shinji Okazaki won Bundesliga most improved award. It would be great to be able to funnel some great talent into our ranks.
 
shaiomarali said:
20% stake is decent ownership given that their majority holder is afterall Nissan, who is the father of the club.

And in terns of what we gain. We actually gain alot definitely market wise. Instead of taking leverage of a one City franchise market, like what most top clubs if not all go about, we look at a City market and other community markets. This way we are not targetting mainly gloryhunters by consumerism, but actually promoting foreign supporters to support their community teams. They will attend matches and hold season tickets and be local support. Not switching on ESPN/Starsports and stop supporting the moment their glory team disappear to mid table mediocrity. We are promoting community support while at the same time using that leverage to promote the City brand and what it does. This way, our support market will never be saturated. Enter revenue.

At least I think that is some part of it.

Definitely on board with the idea of CIty getting fans to support their local community club if that is part of the plan having stakes in these different clubs. After all, I imagine this is one of the reasons most of us support City. if they can maintain their local identity that would be great to. In saying all that, with our revenues presumably still lower than the scousers and rags, I'm sure the powers that be could find a way of getting Man City merchandise at club stores etc
 
A side issue here is that fans of each club in the group will look out for the others' results.

Not sure that brings any tangible benefit but it makes life a little more interesting to have footballing "blood brothers" in other countries and continents.

Makes me proud to see us extending our influence in positive ways.

RIP Ickle Citeh.
 
Griff01 said:
shaiomarali said:
20% stake is decent ownership given that their majority holder is afterall Nissan, who is the father of the club.

And in terns of what we gain. We actually gain alot definitely market wise. Instead of taking leverage of a one City franchise market, like what most top clubs if not all go about, we look at a City market and other community markets. This way we are not targetting mainly gloryhunters by consumerism, but actually promoting foreign supporters to support their community teams. They will attend matches and hold season tickets and be local support. Not switching on ESPN/Starsports and stop supporting the moment their glory team disappear to mid table mediocrity. We are promoting community support while at the same time using that leverage to promote the City brand and what it does. This way, our support market will never be saturated. Enter revenue.

At least I think that is some part of it.

Definitely on board with the idea of CIty getting fans to support their local community club if that is part of the plan having stakes in these different clubs. After all, I imagine this is one of the reasons most of us support City. if they can maintain their local identity that would be great to. In saying all that, with our revenues presumably still lower than the scousers and rags, I'm sure the powers that be could find a way of getting Man City merchandise at club stores etc
Scousers? Pfftt...

Deloitte Football Money League - Revenue in € - Season 2012- 2013 (the latest released)

1 Real Madrid 518.9
2 Barcelona 482.6
3 Bayern Munich 431.2
4 Manchester United 423.8
5 Paris Saint-Germain 398.8
6 Manchester City 316.2
7 Chelsea 303.4
8 Arsenal 284.3
9 Juventus 272.4
10 Milan 263.5
11 Borussia Dortmund 256.2
12 Liverpool 240.6

If it wasn't for the super dodgy PSG Qatar deal we'd probably be in 5th.
 
ColinLee said:
Scousers? Pfftt...

Deloitte Football Money League - Revenue in € - Season 2012- 2013 (the latest released)

1 Real Madrid 518.9
2 Barcelona 482.6
3 Bayern Munich 431.2
4 Manchester United 423.8
5 Paris Saint-Germain 398.8
6 Manchester City 316.2
7 Chelsea 303.4
8 Arsenal 284.3
9 Juventus 272.4
10 Milan 263.5
11 Borussia Dortmund 256.2
12 Liverpool 240.6

If it wasn't for the super dodgy PSG Qatar deal we'd probably be in 5th.
For this year we're supposed to have caught up with Bayern Munich's revenues too... Scary!
 
jonmcity said:
Ade & Ko. said:
petrusha said:
They were formed in Soweto, I believe. And according to the club's official website (see here - <a class="postlink" href="http://www.orlandopiratesfc.com/default.asp?cId=14419" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.orlandopiratesfc.com/default.asp?cId=14419</a>), they play at Orlando Stadium. That's in Soweto - <a class="postlink" href="http://www.stadiummanagement.co.za/orlando-stadium.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.stadiummanagement.co.za/orlando-stadium.html</a>. But the club offices are in another suburb of Johannesburg and they seem to play at Ellis Park, Johannesburg too - <a class="postlink" href="http://www.orlandopiratesfc.com/default.asp?cId=14428" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.orlandopiratesfc.com/default.asp?cId=14428</a>. So maybe we're kind of both right. :)

Soweto is part of Johannesburg anyway. Its like Rochdale is a part of Greater Manchester, Chester is a part of Lancashire, Leeds is a part of Yorkshire.


Chester is a part of Lancashire. Think its Cheshire mate

Oops, of course it is! You catch my drift though...
 
sam-caddick said:
I am just really excited at the possibility of developing top class Japanese talent as I reckon they will become the next Belgium.

India could become a powerhouse if they wanted to though, it's the numbers game with that country so surely they could eventually develop XI top class players with the correct coaching seeing as the country has a population of over a billion.

I actually thought this was going to be a majority stake but I think the Nissan association is the big thing for us with this one.
 
Davs 19 said:
sam-caddick said:
I am just really excited at the possibility of developing top class Japanese talent as I reckon they will become the next Belgium.

India could become a powerhouse if they wanted to though, it's the numbers game with that country so surely they could eventually develop XI top class players with the correct coaching seeing as the country has a population of over a billion.

I actually thought this was going to be a majority stake but I think the Nissan association is the big thing for us with this one.

Apparently Japan has laws saying that foreign investors are only allowed to own a certain percentage of Japanese clubs. I suspect we may have bought as much as national laws permit us to. I think that you're right about the Nissan partnership being crucial, though.
 
Irwell said:
ColinLee said:
Scousers? Pfftt...

Deloitte Football Money League - Revenue in € - Season 2012- 2013 (the latest released)

1 Real Madrid 518.9
2 Barcelona 482.6
3 Bayern Munich 431.2
4 Manchester United 423.8
5 Paris Saint-Germain 398.8
6 Manchester City 316.2
7 Chelsea 303.4
8 Arsenal 284.3
9 Juventus 272.4
10 Milan 263.5
11 Borussia Dortmund 256.2
12 Liverpool 240.6

If it wasn't for the super dodgy PSG Qatar deal we'd probably be in 5th.
For this year we're supposed to have caught up with Bayern Munich's revenues too... Scary!

Certainly the incorrect forum for this, but how do the Italian clubs generate nearly as much revenue as Arsenal with their modest television deals and international appeal?
 
Falastur said:
Davs 19 said:
sam-caddick said:
I am just really excited at the possibility of developing top class Japanese talent as I reckon they will become the next Belgium.

India could become a powerhouse if they wanted to though, it's the numbers game with that country so surely they could eventually develop XI top class players with the correct coaching seeing as the country has a population of over a billion.

I actually thought this was going to be a majority stake but I think the Nissan association is the big thing for us with this one.

Apparently Japan has laws saying that foreign investors are only allowed to own a certain percentage of Japanese clubs. I suspect we may have bought as much as national laws permit us to. I think that you're right about the Nissan partnership being crucial, though.

CFG got a 19.9% stake meaning that Nissan got absolute control.. No way that Nissan who practically rules Yokohama would ever let go of their local team playing in Nissan Stadium.
Perhaps it´s more correct to see it as Nissan giving us a slice, and a sponsor/partnership in return for giving their club a boost in some ways.
I mean.. Nissan is a $100bn car maker but how much do they know about running a modern football club.
 

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