I also thought this was an outstanding post , well done blue
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Media bias for FourFourTwo
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laserblue
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This deserves a wider audience. It's a letter written by Steve Parish of King of the Kippax published in the latest issue of When Saturday Comes.
"Dear WSC
Most fans think referees are biased against their team. Some think they don't get a fair deal from TV coverage, but it's rare for that bias to be openly admitted. When BT Sport covered Manchester City's Champions League quarter final against Paris Saint-Germain, Jake Humphrey told his summarisers that, having often been critical of City, "We should rightly praise City - hard as it is". His after-the-event excuse was that he was inviting comment from Rio Ferdinand and Paul Scholes.
That just points out how stupid it was to have pundits who were naturally hostile to the only English team left in the competition. It's not as if they are either articulate speakers or otherwise talented pundits able to put their own prejudice apart (Gary Neville managed it).
As Scholes seemed keen to do as much damage to City as he tried to do to their players during Manchester derbies, it's hard to argue that there is no anti-City bias. Steve McManaman was on the BT team too. He played briefly for City, remembered mostly for being very good at pointing where the ball should go, but being useless when he got it. He spent a lot of the match looking for empty seats in a sell-out stadium (and found some in the corporate section). Missing from the line-up was Danny Mills, who for some reason is bitter about being paid by City for not playing during long injury breaks and being useless when he did play. It seems a theme that the only ex-City players they can find have some sort of grudge.
All this may reflect the media generally where some of the coverage is barely disguised racism about the owners but most stems from the allegiances of reporters, noses put out by City's "oil fuelled" disruption of the cosy cartel. Even the FA tweeted congratulations to Liverpool on reaching the Europa League semi-finals, but nothing the night before for City.
More worrying is the ubiquitous presence of David Gill at the FA, UEFA and FIFA. How can someone so connected with Manchester United, and still a director, not have a conflict of interest? Why does Financial Fair Play (FFP) deal with wealth but not debt, or football clubs incorporated in offshore tax havens - for example Manchester United in the Cayman Islands?
The European Assembly report a few years ago that supported FFP was gleefully picked up by the English press - but not the bit that said members of football's ruling authorities should not also hold senior posts in a club. Of course, this sort of paranoia about an "agenda" against one club (hello, Mark Clattenburg) and hostility from the game's governing bodies, may be a common experience - but that revelatory moment on BT Sport confirmed that indeed they are out to get us."
"Dear WSC
Most fans think referees are biased against their team. Some think they don't get a fair deal from TV coverage, but it's rare for that bias to be openly admitted. When BT Sport covered Manchester City's Champions League quarter final against Paris Saint-Germain, Jake Humphrey told his summarisers that, having often been critical of City, "We should rightly praise City - hard as it is". His after-the-event excuse was that he was inviting comment from Rio Ferdinand and Paul Scholes.
That just points out how stupid it was to have pundits who were naturally hostile to the only English team left in the competition. It's not as if they are either articulate speakers or otherwise talented pundits able to put their own prejudice apart (Gary Neville managed it).
As Scholes seemed keen to do as much damage to City as he tried to do to their players during Manchester derbies, it's hard to argue that there is no anti-City bias. Steve McManaman was on the BT team too. He played briefly for City, remembered mostly for being very good at pointing where the ball should go, but being useless when he got it. He spent a lot of the match looking for empty seats in a sell-out stadium (and found some in the corporate section). Missing from the line-up was Danny Mills, who for some reason is bitter about being paid by City for not playing during long injury breaks and being useless when he did play. It seems a theme that the only ex-City players they can find have some sort of grudge.
All this may reflect the media generally where some of the coverage is barely disguised racism about the owners but most stems from the allegiances of reporters, noses put out by City's "oil fuelled" disruption of the cosy cartel. Even the FA tweeted congratulations to Liverpool on reaching the Europa League semi-finals, but nothing the night before for City.
More worrying is the ubiquitous presence of David Gill at the FA, UEFA and FIFA. How can someone so connected with Manchester United, and still a director, not have a conflict of interest? Why does Financial Fair Play (FFP) deal with wealth but not debt, or football clubs incorporated in offshore tax havens - for example Manchester United in the Cayman Islands?
The European Assembly report a few years ago that supported FFP was gleefully picked up by the English press - but not the bit that said members of football's ruling authorities should not also hold senior posts in a club. Of course, this sort of paranoia about an "agenda" against one club (hello, Mark Clattenburg) and hostility from the game's governing bodies, may be a common experience - but that revelatory moment on BT Sport confirmed that indeed they are out to get us."
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MillionMilesAway
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Brilliant. I'm a little surprised WSC printed it though, fine mag though it is.
Prestwich_Blue
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Brilliant. I'm seeing Steve later so I'll pass on congratulations.
cheekybids
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I'm wTching the rags now & everything is rosy.
No one is mentioning empty seats, shit atmosphere, expensive flops, it's all about the possession, How good martial & the youngsters have been. 14 blooded by LVG.
No one is mentioning empty seats, shit atmosphere, expensive flops, it's all about the possession, How good martial & the youngsters have been. 14 blooded by LVG.
KenTheLandlord
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I'm wTching the rags now & everything is rosy.
No one is mentioning empty seats, shit atmosphere, expensive flops, it's all about the possession, How good martial & the youngsters have been. 14 blooded by LVG.
14 bloody shit ones
cheekybids
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Just said may not be many there for the lap of honour but the rain doesn't help. Beglin - utd have been a joy to watch.
Apparently Rooney has been in outstanding form as utd automatically secure European football for next year.
Apparently Rooney has been in outstanding form as utd automatically secure European football for next year.
George Hannah
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a fine distillation of the evidence of the agenda, absurdly denied and deemed unworthy of even a thread by the owner of this forum.This deserves a wider audience. It's a letter written by Steve Parish of King of the Kippax published in the latest issue of When Saturday Comes.
"Dear WSC
Most fans think referees are biased against their team. Some think they don't get a fair deal from TV coverage, but it's rare for that bias to be openly admitted. When BT Sport covered Manchester City's Champions League quarter final against Paris Saint-Germain, Jake Humphrey told his summarisers that, having often been critical of City, "We should rightly praise City - hard as it is". His after-the-event excuse was that he was inviting comment from Rio Ferdinand and Paul Scholes.
That just points out how stupid it was to have pundits who were naturally hostile to the only English team left in the competition. It's not as if they are either articulate speakers or otherwise talented pundits able to put their own prejudice apart (Gary Neville managed it).
As Scholes seemed keen to do as much damage to City as he tried to do to their players during Manchester derbies, it's hard to argue that there is no anti-City bias. Steve McManaman was on the BT team too. He played briefly for City, remembered mostly for being very good at pointing where the ball should go, but being useless when he got it. He spent a lot of the match looking for empty seats in a sell-out stadium (and found some in the corporate section). Missing from the line-up was Danny Mills, who for some reason is bitter about being paid by City for not playing during long injury breaks and being useless when he did play. It seems a theme that the only ex-City players they can find have some sort of grudge.
All this may reflect the media generally where some of the coverage is barely disguised racism about the owners but most stems from the allegiances of reporters, noses put out by City's "oil fuelled" disruption of the cosy cartel. Even the FA tweeted congratulations to Liverpool on reaching the Europa League semi-finals, but nothing the night before for City.
More worrying is the ubiquitous presence of David Gill at the FA, UEFA and FIFA. How can someone so connected with Manchester United, and still a director, not have a conflict of interest? Why does Financial Fair Play (FFP) deal with wealth but not debt, or football clubs incorporated in offshore tax havens - for example Manchester United in the Cayman Islands?
The European Assembly report a few years ago that supported FFP was gleefully picked up by the English press - but not the bit that said members of football's ruling authorities should not also hold senior posts in a club. Of course, this sort of paranoia about an "agenda" against one club (hello, Mark Clattenburg) and hostility from the game's governing bodies, may be a common experience - but that revelatory moment on BT Sport confirmed that indeed they are out to get us."
franksinatra
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a fine distillation of the evidence of the agenda, absurdly denied and deemed unworthy of even a thread by the owner of this forum.
I always thought Ric was part of the cartel. There definitely seems to be a lack of media bias posts on this forum