Media bias for FourFourTwo

Like you, I don't think there is an orchestrated campaign against City, but I do think that many sports opinion writers (and, by extension, their papers) do have an obvious leaning away from City. Looking on newsnow, I came across this headline from the Star: Ozil, Lallana and Lamella make list of best attacking midfielders on stats. There then followed the 'top' 12, as reported by football-observatory.com. I clicked the link as, not only was I surprised to see Lallana and Lamella on it, I wondered if Merlin might have scraped in given that he's not had a great season by his standards and has had a few injuries.
The PL had six representatives, who were listed as follows: 9th Payet, 8th Lallana, 7th Ericsson, 4th Lamella, 2nd Ozil, 1st David Silva.
Now, you could easily argue, that it's not much of a story. But, if you're going to bother with it, I'd have thought the story was more about the number 1 ranked player is playing in the PL. It might, at a push, have been about having 2 players from the PL in the top 2. But to not mention he bloke who's ranked first seems like a bit more than an oversight.

Things like this are annoying but its purely down to numbers. United, Liverpool, Arsenal and Spurs get a huge amount of clicks compared to anyone else so its common practice to concentrate headlines on them.

Working on various sites down the years there's been numerous occasions a transfer rumour has materialised involving City or Chelsea and I've been told to change the club in question to Arsenal because they eat that stuff up in droves.
 
Like you, I don't think there is an orchestrated campaign against City, but I do think that many sports opinion writers (and, by extension, their papers) do have an obvious leaning away from City. Looking on newsnow, I came across this headline from the Star: Ozil, Lallana and Lamella make list of best attacking midfielders on stats. There then followed the 'top' 12, as reported by football-observatory.com. I clicked the link as, not only was I surprised to see Lallana and Lamella on it, I wondered if Merlin might have scraped in given that he's not had a great season by his standards and has had a few injuries.
The PL had six representatives, who were listed as follows: 9th Payet, 8th Lallana, 7th Ericsson, 4th Lamella, 2nd Ozil, 1st David Silva.
Now, you could easily argue, that it's not much of a story. But, if you're going to bother with it, I'd have thought the story was more about the number 1 ranked player is playing in the PL. It might, at a push, have been about having 2 players from the PL in the top 2. But to not mention he bloke who's ranked first seems like a bit more than an oversight.

I'm sure newsnow are simply after as many clicks as possible so Ozil, Lallana and Lamella corner the market of around 659 million in contrast to little City and Silva around 84,569.
 
Things like this are annoying but its purely down to numbers. United, Liverpool, Arsenal and Spurs get a huge amount of clicks compared to anyone else so its common practice to concentrate headlines on them.

Working on various sites down the years there's been numerous occasions a transfer rumour has materialised involving City or Chelsea and I've been told to change the club in question to Arsenal because they eat that stuff up in droves.

I fully appreciate that they do it for that reason but that in itself is wrong. Surely we should expect journalists to report the facts.

It's got to the stage now where it seems like we accept the bullshit because they need to put food on the table too.
 
I fully appreciate that they do it for that reason but that in itself is wrong. Surely we should expect journalists to report the facts.

It's got to the stage now where it seems like we accept the bullshit because they need to put food on the table too.
Your last line is very true. I've often seen people defending what's reported with the excuse that they're pandering to the most supporters. Well, that's all well and good but it shouldn't stop us calling them out on their bullshit. Sports journalists are the lowest out there these days, bar the odd exception it's a field full of bloggers who've managed to find themselves at newspapers. Sadly it's reflected in the work they produce.
 
I would say fair enough but 5 games in they had revised their opinion to 'they will run away with the league '.

It wasn't the point..... We are guilty of over amplifying outside opinion when it appears negative.. Yes we get bad press, probably more than others, however, that can only be changed from within, the City Media machine is shite, the person(s) protecting our interests are shite, the media has had a free pass of ridicule without the bite back, that falls solely at our door and until we do, they'll continue to amplify and portray us as some wrongdoing in the game....

We are more Aha than Iron maiden when it comes to wanting a scrap, however, there's a guy named Pep coming, he tosses more people than Lovelace on a Friday down the lazy pig, the very hint of taking the piss and he'll let it be known, something manuel wasn't able to do!!
 
It wasn't the point..... We are guilty of over amplifying outside opinion when it appears negative.. Yes we get bad press, probably more than others, however, that can only be changed from within, the City Media machine is shite, the person(s) protecting our interests are shite, the media has had a free pass of ridicule without the bite back, that falls solely at our door and until we do, they'll continue to amplify and portray us as some wrongdoing in the game....

We are more Aha than Iron maiden when it comes to wanting a scrap, however, there's a guy named Pep coming, he tosses more people than Lovelace on a Friday down the lazy pig, the very hint of taking the piss and he'll let it be known, something manuel wasn't able to do!!
Amen.
 
There's the Star, the Express and the Mirror etc, and then there is so called serious football journalism. There's is a clamour for anything football related from a neutral perspective hence When Saturday Comes, 442, football Focus, SSN etc. Even Football Republic. Football is a big industry occupying a lot of peoples time and leisure. You want to be taken seriously then you have to be considered and reasonable then everyone will have an interest in your opinion. Write slavishly for one or two clubs and no one wants to know. Surely that is how it should work, but no no one is neutral. Used to post on he Guardian's football message boards but just ended up hating seeing my football club rubbished / ignored by them week after week so gave up contributing to them.

Surely they will have to pay more attention and take City more seriously with Guardiola on board. He'll warrant some serious analysis and attention. That, Leicester, and MUFC saga will make for interesting subjects
 
I think there is an important distinction being drawn up in here... There is the customer-base driven bias where money is the driving force. (IE there are more Liverpool fans globally and it pays more money for the publication to run reports on them than on City)

Then there is the bias against City from utd/liv/ars/che/etc fans from within the media (IE some bbc producer decides not to highlight De-Bryune amazing goals, or Aguerro's golden boots awards)


I think it is important to distinguish between the two because it will fall on deaf ears where money-bias is cause, that's just football. But the other bias should be called out deffo!

I think the key thing though, is that money talks, and eventually we will get positive/more coverage with the more fans the club bring in. The non-city fans in the media know this and I reckon, they are trying to prevent the increasing and positive coverage of Man City for that reason. Although that could also be because we dont deserve it under the current manager!
 
Final reply from the BBC. Utter, utter wankers.

Thank you for taking the time to contact us and we appreciate that you felt strongly enough to write to us again. We have noted your points on the matter of your perceptions about our coverage of, and references to, Manchester City and we are sorry to learn you were not satisfied with our earlier response.


We are sorry to tell you that we have nothing to add to our previous reply where we explained that such things are entirely subjective in nature. We therefore do not believe your complaint has raised a significant issue of general importance that might justify further investigation. We will not therefore correspond further in response to additional points, or further comments or questions, made about this issue or our responses to it. We realise you will be disappointed to hear this but hope this explains why we are not able to take your complaint further. If you remain dissatisfied about our decision you can appeal to the BBC Trust, the body which represents licence fee payers. The Trust has asked that we should explain to complainants that the BBC's Royal Charter draws a clear distinction between the role of the Trust - which determines the overall scope of the BBC's services and sets its standards - and that of the BBC Executive - which runs the Corporation and decides what to broadcast and publish.


The Trust does not investigate every appeal submitted to it. It will normally hear appeals about the Executive’s decisions only if a complainant can show that they involved a potential breach of the BBC's published standards, or that an operational decision has raised significant issues of general importance. The Trust is the final arbiter of which appeals it should consider. For the full information about the BBC Trust’s appeals procedures please visit www.bbc.co.uk/bbctrust/governance/complaints_framework/. If you wish to submit an appeal you must write within 20 working days of receiving this reply, explaining why you wish to appeal. You can contact the BBC Trust at 180 Great Portland Street, London W1W 5QZ, or by emailing trust.editorial@bbc.co.uk. Please would you include for them the relevant case reference which you may have been given.


We're sorry not to have referenced the Tweet you mentioned - . The fact of the matter is that tickets were indeed still available for that match, however later in the day you will have noted that we contextualised this by reporting "Manuel Pellegrini was quizzed about the lack of a sell-out at Manchester City earlier on this afternoon but their Champions League tie with Paris St-Germain is likely to break the club's European record. Around 51,400 tickets have been sold - and continue to be sold - with the capacity at the Etihad reduced to 53,000 for European games. City's record crowd for a European game is 50,363 (v Juventus in September 2015)" thus giving the full and ongoing picture.


You've now mentioned another Tweet - - and we can clarify that the comparisons between Leicester City and Manchester City were made to highlight the disparity between how much each team have spent on players, but also to put into context that Manchester City’s starting line-up was the most costly in the Premier League at the time. We feel that it was a fair, accurate and legitimate comparison to make and was done with the aim of illustrating a key component of the Leicester City eventual title. The post was in no way indicative of any bias or targeting of Manchester City. We posted this in the build-up of the Manchester United v Leicester City match purely due to the fact that all Leicester City needed to do that evening was to win the match to take the title. We’re sorry that you’re unhappy about this and we can assure you that the BBC Sport team are aware of the concerns you’ve raised.
 

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