Media coverage 2018/19

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gordondaviesmoustache said:
Saw him in the Lizard Lounge in Nottingham, in 2003. Wearing a gold medallion with the initials ‘JJ’ hanging at the bottom. Bold and vulgar. Looked an absolute wankstain. Me and my mates had a good ten minutes pissing ourselves at that. Looked like he took himself far too seriously.

That said, he was young and not the first person to get carried away when they become successful. I think he comes across ok these days, and he’s articulate. Fair play to him for sticking his neck out and backing himself.

Actually genuinely great to see a mixed-race lad from Clifton doing so well for himself.
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Top blingz man innit ;-)
 
George Hannah said:
Nothing wrong? Cue link to

"The Norwegian has warned his players to be ready for City's "pressing" and 'aggression'. They will snap at your ankles and heels and kick you," said the 46-year-old. They will not allow us easy counter-attacking. There will be fouls. No doubt about it because they commit so many players forward and will be stopping us as high as they can."
"In November, Guardiola was given a formal warning by the Football Association for speaking about referee Anthony Taylor before the previous Manchester derby at Etihad Stadium, which City won 3-1"
"Guardiola has previously denied accusations he tells his teams to commit 'tactical fouls' to halt opposition counter-attacks."

You probably will like the 'nice' Hattenstone sewage in the Guardian recommended earlier as well.

"City learned the hard way. They endured 35 years of pain – not winning a single trophy while United swept up everything in front of them. ... they endured prolonged periods of misery in the lower tiers of the Football League and United fans were merciless in skewering their unfortunate local rivals. At Old Trafford a ticker banner was unfurled every other week that catalogued City’s trophy-less spell....Since City have been endowed with Abu Dhabi’s riches it’s become more difficult for United fans to maintain the supercilious grins we’ve been wearing for the past two decades. But we still try. Despite the riches, the new stadium, world class players, record-breaking seasons and being treated to arguably the world’s best manager, City still can’t fill their ground. Every game features empty seats peppered around the Etihad, prompting rival fans to coin “Emptyhad” to encapsulate City’s phantom home support.
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If you want to disagree with me, that's fine, we can discuss it. Don't introduce bullshit elements like "you probably will like" and then post something completely different. It's a straw man argument and childish.

Now if you want to go back to discuss the first article, that's great. Let me know. xx
 
George Hannah said:
Nothing wrong? Cue link to

"The Norwegian has warned his players to be ready for City's "pressing" and 'aggression'. They will snap at your ankles and heels and kick you," said the 46-year-old. They will not allow us easy counter-attacking. There will be fouls. No doubt about it because they commit so many players forward and will be stopping us as high as they can."
"In November, Guardiola was given a formal warning by the Football Association for speaking about referee Anthony Taylor before the previous Manchester derby at Etihad Stadium, which City won 3-1"
"Guardiola has previously denied accusations he tells his teams to commit 'tactical fouls' to halt opposition counter-attacks."

You probably will like the 'nice' Hattenstone sewage in the Guardian recommended earlier as well.

"City learned the hard way. They endured 35 years of pain – not winning a single trophy while United swept up everything in front of them. ... they endured prolonged periods of misery in the lower tiers of the Football League and United fans were merciless in skewering their unfortunate local rivals. At Old Trafford a ticker banner was unfurled every other week that catalogued City’s trophy-less spell....Since City have been endowed with Abu Dhabi’s riches it’s become more difficult for United fans to maintain the supercilious grins we’ve been wearing for the past two decades. But we still try. Despite the riches, the new stadium, world class players, record-breaking seasons and being treated to arguably the world’s best manager, City still can’t fill their ground. Every game features empty seats peppered around the Etihad, prompting rival fans to coin “Emptyhad” to encapsulate City’s phantom home support.
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That second piece is obviously an opinion column by a bloke called Lavelle who works at the Guardian and is a Utd fan. It's not by Hattenstone, and is broadly gracious.

Selective excerpting serves not a lot really, as the next lines are quite approving
"But no. If 35 years of hurt could be embraced with humorous self-flagellation then a few empty seats aren’t going to dent the fun. And so, to the tune of the Beautiful South’s Rotterdam, they celebrate their failure: “We’ve been to Rotterdam and Monaco, Napoli and Rome. We’ve still got empty seats! Empty seats at hooooome! Empty seats at home.
Even if United win the derby on Wednesday night City fans are sure to find something to laugh about. Because they’re made of Teflon, impervious to insults. Their ability to laugh off any well-aimed jibes may have frustrated me over the years, but I think we could all learn from their ability to not take things so seriously.”

Maybe this bit at the start:
"We’re in danger of becoming a nation of dour, po-faced haters (and self-haters). So thank the lord for Manchester City fans. And as a Man United fan I never thought I’d hear myself say that.
United have had it good for as long as I can remember. But that’s not made us better fans. Along with being renowned as an arrogant bunch we take ourselves far too seriously."

If grudging approval is something to get wound up about, then heaven help everyone when it goes bad.
 
Henkeman said:
If you want to disagree with me, that's fine, we can discuss it. Don't introduce bullshit elements like "you probably will like" and then post something completely different. It's a straw man argument and childish.

Now if you want to go back to discuss the first article, that's great. Let me know. xx
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The Stone piece is bitty, doesn't run together and generally poorly written. He does use statistics, and could use them better, but it's generally okay.
 
MillionMilesAway said:
That second piece is obviously an opinion column by a bloke called Lavelle who works at the Guardian and is a Utd fan. It's not by Hattenstone, and is broadly gracious.

Selective excerpting serves not a lot really, as the next lines are quite approving
"But no. If 35 years of hurt could be embraced with humorous self-flagellation then a few empty seats aren’t going to dent the fun. And so, to the tune of the Beautiful South’s Rotterdam, they celebrate their failure: “We’ve been to Rotterdam and Monaco, Napoli and Rome. We’ve still got empty seats! Empty seats at hooooome! Empty seats at home.
Even if United win the derby on Wednesday night City fans are sure to find something to laugh about. Because they’re made of Teflon, impervious to insults. Their ability to laugh off any well-aimed jibes may have frustrated me over the years, but I think we could all learn from their ability to not take things so seriously.”

Maybe this bit at the start:
"We’re in danger of becoming a nation of dour, po-faced haters (and self-haters). So thank the lord for Manchester City fans. And as a Man United fan I never thought I’d hear myself say that.
United have had it good for as long as I can remember. But that’s not made us better fans. Along with being renowned as an arrogant bunch we take ourselves far too seriously."

If grudging approval is something to get wound up about, then heaven help everyone when it goes bad.
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My bad, sorry. Curious but Hattenstone's name was all over that link when I clicked on it before now he's melted away. No doubt he'll be back soon with his Guardian mates Conn, Shindler and Ronay to give our fans another kicking. Anyway, if you think that insult-laden piece of swamp mockery passes for 'broadly gracious and grudging approval' then I'm afraid you need some reality therapy along with @Henkeman.
The cretinous Stone and this Lavelle joker are both just pushing the same lying rag narrative as Sky and the rest of the parasite media. It is to identify us with our relatively short period of struggle in the 90s and try to define our history as a rise from obscure adversity to temporary success via tainted Arab riches - and you two swallow it all it seems.
 
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George Hannah said:
My bad, sorry. Curious but Hattenstone's name was all over that link when I clicked on it before now he's melted away. No doubt he'll be back soon with his Guardian mates Conn, Shindler and Ronay to give our fans another kicking. Anyway, if you think that insult-laden piece of swamp mockery passes for 'broadly gracious and grudging approval' then I'm afraid you need some reality therapy along with @Henkeman.
The cretinous Stone and this Lavelle joker are both just pushing the same lying rag narrative as Sky and the rest of the parasite media. It is to identify us with our relatively short period of struggle in the 90s and try to define our history as a rise from obscure adversity to temporary success via tainted Arab riches - and you two swallow it all it seems.
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Yeah, you see that's the second time you quote something entirely different, and then attach my name to approving it. Stop doing that - either answer me directly or ignore me, but stop with bullshit lying approach of quoting something totally different and assuming my opinion towards it.

Now watch the game and grow up a bit
 
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