Media Discussion - 2023/24

[Prophet of Doom]

Yeah he nailed it big problem is that the other 99% of the media ignore it!

The other 99% were busy last year reporting Klopp saying it was not fair competing with Newcastle - when at that exact moment LFC had a wage bill double what Newcastle’s was !!!

 

[mancboy]

I know the pl is a private members club but could a club challenge this anti competition rule in court ?

FFP is clearly bent in favour of established clubs and does lead to a free and fair market

ffp at its very core is anti competitive for a very simple reason that in NO other business is an outside force allowed to decide the nature of the market, quite simply the market decides that , could you imagine if tomorrow ford decided that ferrari were charging too much for their cars and had to immediately half the price of them, there would be quite rightfully be total uproar at the ridiculousness of the suggestion never mind putting it into practice and this is effectively what the premier league are doing by deciding whether a deal is of fair market value.

 

[iceman]

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Who put that on there?

A rag

 

[Citizen of Legoland]

ffp at its very core is anti competitive for a very simple reason that in NO other business is an outside force allowed to decide the nature of the market, quite simply the market decides that , could you imagine if tomorrow ford decided that ferrari were charging too much for their cars and had to immediately half the price of them, there would be quite rightfully be total uproar at the ridiculousness of the suggestion never mind putting it into practice and this is effectively what the premier league are doing by deciding whether a deal is of fair market value.

Controlling a competition to stop one team dominating isn't actually too bad an idea, otherwise you end up with a German or Spanish league. At the same time the competition organisers should be trying to prevent the situation where clubs fail half way through a season, causing chaos and potentially damaging other teams through defaulted payments etc. A sporting league isn't quite the same as your example because the teams enter the competitions and agree to the terms of them for the chance of winning prize money, the benefits are in both directions. FFP doesn't necessarily have to be a bad thing, it's just become something else in England and Europe due to the politics and the power some teams have (or have had).

 

[mexico1970]

Controlling a competition to stop one team dominating isn't actually too bad an idea, otherwise you end up with a German or Spanish league. At the same time the competition organisers should be trying to prevent the situation where clubs fail half way through a season, causing chaos and potentially damaging other teams through defaulted payments etc. A sporting league isn't quite the same as your example because the teams enter the competitions and agree to the terms of them for the chance of winning prize money, the benefits are in both directions. FFP doesn't necessarily have to be a bad thing, it's just become something else in England and Europe due to the politics and the power some teams have (or have had).

They kissed the arses of the scousers in the 70's and 80's.
They kissed the arses of the rags in the 90's and the early 2000's.

They don't want us or any other non preferred team anywhere near the top because it prevents them selling their wares to Asia, Africa and yankeedoodleland.

It's a cartel run racket, if the best team always wins then that's what sport is, it's up to the rest to up their game they are all loaded.

 

[give it to gordon]

Controlling a competition to stop one team dominating isn't actually too bad an idea, otherwise you end up with a German or Spanish league. At the same time the competition organisers should be trying to prevent the situation where clubs fail half way through a season, causing chaos and potentially damaging other teams through defaulted payments etc. A sporting league isn't quite the same as your example because the teams enter the competitions and agree to the terms of them for the chance of winning prize money, the benefits are in both directions. FFP doesn't necessarily have to be a bad thing, it's just become something else in England and Europe due to the politics and the power some teams have (or have had).

Thing is nine times out of ten you need money to make it to the top even in amateur sport.

Motor racing, cycling, tennis, golf etc you need money behind you. You can be very good at these sports but to get to the top you need the best equipment which costs a fortune. Do other sports have ffp ? Team Sky were the best cycling team because they had the biggest budget, than other teams. No ffp but other teams are now bigger and better than ineos ( Sky ) not because of ffp but because they sorted big deals and better equipment etc. They didnt try to stop team sky, just went about getting better than team sky !

Football ffp is to stop competition

I guess the point I'm making in a roundabout way is sport has always been about people who had money or good sponsors.

Does the academy come under ffp ?

 

[Bez]

Pleased to see Arsenal also being scrutinised for their lavish spending since Arteta arrived. Next 2 weeks will be interesting. I thought turkeys didn't vote for Xmas, but seems that other PL clubs are turkeys as they voted for the ffp straitjacket.

 

[hertsblue]

Yeah he nailed it big problem is that the other 99% of the media ignore it!

And this somehow is never mentioned:
The Saudi Arabian regime have been helping to fund Manchester United since 2008, twelve years! Their deal with state owned Saudi Telecom is the 'longest running of all our commercial partners' this Manchester United official statement says below in 2017

 

[manimanc]

Pleased to see Arsenal also being scrutinised for their lavish spending since Arteta arrived. Next 2 weeks will be interesting. I thought turkeys didn't vote for Xmas, but seems that other PL clubs are turkeys as they voted for the ffp straitjacket.

Where does it say that or you a newsflash!

 

[TinFoilHat]

Pound to a piece of shit - IF the rags are found guilty of breaching PL FFPR rules they will call and emergency meeting of all clubs to change the rules.