Media Discussion - 2023/24

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

I used to play football for a Norden pub, it was a long while back like.

I would have imaged he was probably in search of a chair I once sat in, a tankard I drank from or me old boots I left behind the bar in an Asda bag.

Yeah just think he could have had a hat trick in Istanbul with those boots.

 

[mad4city]

Children's health and inequality is undoubtedly more important than football, and if tagging it only the Premier League is how they actually get people to pay attention to their research then I'm not going to complain (the full research has every club in the PL listed, but it's obvious that the MEN are going to pick up on the local clubs - it's no slight at all on City).

Many of the charities working in the area (including those who work with City in the Community), will rely on this kind of research when they're trying to raise funds. And the kind of comparison between the areas around Old Trafford and The Etihad, is really important, as a lot of people can't see beyond their own backyards, or will see Manchester doing well and think there's no need for additional services.

I used to work in one of the richest areas of London, where there was a 15 year difference in life expectancy on two streets just 50 yards apart. Anything that helps raise awareness of inequality, is fine in my view.

Nail on the head.

 

[Sid Snott]

Oven bottoms not muffins or barms

Barm is a really old English word for yeast. As they use a lot more yeast to make in the bakery than a loaf they were known as barm cakes, or if you're from Debyshire, bread cakes. Muffin ilwas strictly Manchester whilst bap is Southern

 

[GRB]

Barm is a really old English word for yeast. As they use a lot more yeast to make in the bakery than a loaf they were known as barm cakes, or if you're from Debyshire, bread cakes. Muffin ilwas strictly Manchester whilst bap is Southern

Anyone ever ordered a Chip Cob?

 

[halfcenturyup]

Children's health and inequality is undoubtedly more important than football, and if tagging it only the Premier League is how they actually get people to pay attention to their research then I'm not going to complain (the full research has every club in the PL listed, but it's obvious that the MEN are going to pick up on the local clubs - it's no slight at all on City).

Many of the charities working in the area (including those who work with City in the Community), will rely on this kind of research when they're trying to raise funds. And the kind of comparison between the areas around Old Trafford and The Etihad, is really important, as a lot of people can't see beyond their own backyards, or will see Manchester doing well and think there's no need for additional services.

I used to work in one of the richest areas of London, where there was a 15 year difference in life expectancy on two streets just 50 yards apart. Anything that helps raise awareness of inequality, is fine in my view.

While you are right in principle, of course, that attention to child welfare and poverty is good, you don't think the constant references to the PL, to football clubs and to league tables trivialises the issue? The sort of people who will appreciate the comparisons would, I imagine, be the least likely to be able to do anything about it. On the other hand, as far as I can see there is no link to the actual report, so maybe the report itself is more intellectual and less populist.

 

[SebastianBlue]

So we spend the whole summer haggling down Leipzig to make sure we don’t pay more for Gvardiol than Maguire cost. But Sly Sports weren’t to be outsmarted!

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For reference, adjusted for inflation, Rio Ferdinand cost the Rags £73m.

In fact, adjusting for inflation, the most expensive defender in football history comfortably remains…

Harry ‘Better When He Doesn’t Play’ Maguire, for £95m (followed by Matthijs de Ligt going to the bastion of ethical club management for £93m, and a few others).

Gvardiol is not really even in the top five most expensive.

But anything to make us look like we are buying success and distorting the market.

 

[Rory Bluelow]

The Manchester divide that goes well beyond a football rivalry

"Children being born and brought up in the home of Manchester's triumphant Citizens face among the worst health prospects in the country - but children born in the Devils' backyard are 50 per cent less likely to grow up impoverished", according to so called `new`academic research as reported in today`s Manchester Evening News (MEN).

https://www.manchestereveningnews.c...s/manchester-divide-goes-well-beyond-27446049

The MEN does not, however, provide any analysis or balanced commentary.

Public and private agencies have been trying to tackle inequality for as long as anyone can remember. This is not news despite the co-authors thinking that it is.

The reality is that it is pretentious, attention seeking academics once again who cast out a hook to justify their research in order to try and convince others that that they need more funding for their next research project. Once again, City is their hook.

Trafford is not Manchester. It is one of the wealthiest boroughs. It is a contrived comparison by the academics and undermines the serious matters.This appears to be as much about them and their profile as the real issues.

Perhaps they could do something useful such as working for City in the Community.

Football clubs are not responsible for public health, poverty and inequality however they can contribute to a range of measures by government, local authorities and other agencies, as well as developing their own initiatives.

City in the Community and the City Football Group are leaders. The report writers and MEN failed to grasp the opportunity to recognise this work in Manchester and beyond. Why?

Academics in name only. Disingenuous to compare Trafford with Manchester, especially so in the light of the great works done by City’s owner.

 

[halfcenturyup]

Academics in name only. Disingenuous to compare Trafford with Manchester, especially so in the light of the great works done by City’s owner.

Tbf to them, they have made comparisons, as I understand it, between boroughs across the country. It is the MEN who have constructed the cross-(greater) Manchester "divide".

I will try to dig out the actual report to see if it is more academic than the article.

 

[west didsblue]

Academics in name only. Disingenuous to compare Trafford with Manchester, especially so in the light of the great works done by City’s owner.

At least it clarifies the fact there’s only one team in Manchester.

 

[Donmcfc]

Baps are something entirely different

You mean they're not round and they're not made of bread?